Free Will

as a religious man I found this concept a hardly difficult.

if a man is bound by fate that God create. and his fate was measured even when he wasn't born, how come man like Gengis Khan, Guy de Losignan, Hitler is Exist.

and if really that our live is bound by fate how come God punish Us for our sin?
WHY? why not God let us do somthing that will make him angry? if he eventually punish us, why he didn't let us to settle things by our self. why we bound by somthing called fate? I didn't understand what's on God mind. or maybe our live is like MMORPG. that god only gives a infinitive path to us. and let us take what suit on us?

can anyone answer this?

oh sir, you call it taqdir right? XP you must believe in the qadha' and qadar, that is a must for a perfect faith~
there's no way around it, really. if you believe that man's fate is predetermined by god, then you gotta accept that evil is work of god. if you want to believe that an evildoer is evil from his own will, then there's no predetermined fate.

as for reward and punishment, well, if there's free will, then yeah, people are punished for their own doings. but that means no predetermined fate, which is for certain set of belief is just intolerable. if there's fate as you believe it, then god is rewarding/punishing himself. yak yak yak, god is just a stupid kid that rages on the doll that he himself controlled.

on the 'restricted will' concept, for me it's the same shit. sure, no one has complete free will in this world, but as long as there's an agent that deliberately determines people's lives to be such and such, then the concept of good/evil is applicable to it.

lol, this was the first thing I asked when I began to question the religion I was brought up with~

what the hell are you doing here?
lol.

TL;DR

I was just laughing at your avi lmao.

serious discussion in IB.

herp

no

fix'd

Free Will exists.

I can prove it.

I killed god when I died and took over his turf and put on a cd player and ignore all your silly pleas you make.

Only reason there's been no satanic executions is cuz he loves me by the fact that i shut gates of heaven down and turned the whole place into my loli mansion of paradise and dump all the good doers into hell for him to torture for fun.

WHERE'S YOUR GOD NOW! LOL!

ONLY REASON I BOTHER TO BE ON FAKKU IS TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE'S MISERY AS I LIVE IN ETERNAL PARADISE LOL











if you believed me, the joke's on you.

Zoom

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enlightment's a bitch i know

This thread reminds me of The Mass Murder of Modern Time thread.

Fukken lol'd

Hello there shinpu! ❤

As a non-religious man I have to point out that you still have an avatar of a girl covered in sin juice.

its a conspiracy engineered by me to make you think you actually have control over your will.

Sorry, it's the dub version.

"Looks at what OP wrote then his avatar and shakes his head"