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sakabato24 World Warrior
Blackmagic666 wrote...
What do you guys think about the Oath cards that got leaked?


I just want Wastelands. I need them if I ever decide to play RUG Delver after I try to complete Berserk Infect for Legacy.
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sakabato24 wrote...
Blackmagic666 wrote...
What do you guys think about the Oath cards that got leaked?


I just want Wastelands. I need them if I ever decide to play RUG Delver after I try to complete Berserk Infect for Legacy.

I can't wait to see the mechanics, hopefully they are better than the last set.
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xihiroix Sun Worshipper
Aren't they making colorless mana a new type of land with its own symbol as well?
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BlinkXPoke Cards and Hugs abound
xihiroix wrote...
Aren't they making colorless mana a new type of land with its own symbol as well?


It feels like it's gonna be a Zendikar only thing, but it's still an interesting concept.
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xihiroix Sun Worshipper
BlinkXPoke wrote...
xihiroix wrote...
Aren't they making colorless mana a new type of land with its own symbol as well?


It feels like it's gonna be a Zendikar only thing, but it's still an interesting concept.


Well, it would make sense to continue it after the Zendikar block, since colorless mana is used for most magic cards. It would also be cool for colorless mana to have its own symbol from now on. What makes me somewhat excited is they might do a throwback to Urza block in a later set if WoTC decides to focus more on colorless mana/cards.
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sakabato24 World Warrior
I have to agree with Blink here in saying that it might be a 'Zendikar-Only' kinda deal.

My personal opinion about it though is that it's nice to have actual Colorless mana, especially for Colorless EDH Commanders like Karn and Ulamog, but I personally think the symbol is kinda pointless and I personally hope that it doesn't show up after Oath. But, that's just me. I feel like it is an unnecessary change if it does show up elsewhere.
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BlinkXPoke Cards and Hugs abound
sakabato24 wrote...
I have to agree with Blink here in saying that it might be a 'Zendikar-Only' kinda deal.

My personal opinion about it though is that it's nice to have actual Colorless mana, especially for Colorless EDH Commanders like Karn and Ulamog, but I personally think the symbol is kinda pointless and I personally hope that it doesn't show up after Oath. But, that's just me. I feel like it is an unnecessary change if it does show up elsewhere.


Thinking along the same vein here.

It's a great preemptive method for perhaps something in the future. I mean, it makes sense now, with Eldrazi being as strange as they are, actually needing coloured mana and such, and perhaps in the future, there can be an artifact based set or something similar where "colorless matters", but overall, it's, for the most part, as saka mentioned, pointless otherwise. I don't want "colorless" to become the "sixth color", it makes things overly complex for no reason, especially since it won't hold a candle in the older formats, unless they make something completely broken that can last in an eternal format like Modern or Legacy, which they can't do.
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xihiroix Sun Worshipper
BlinkXPoke wrote...
sakabato24 wrote...
I have to agree with Blink here in saying that it might be a 'Zendikar-Only' kinda deal.

My personal opinion about it though is that it's nice to have actual Colorless mana, especially for Colorless EDH Commanders like Karn and Ulamog, but I personally think the symbol is kinda pointless and I personally hope that it doesn't show up after Oath. But, that's just me. I feel like it is an unnecessary change if it does show up elsewhere.


Thinking along the same vein here.

It's a great preemptive method for perhaps something in the future. I mean, it makes sense now, with Eldrazi being as strange as they are, actually needing coloured mana and such, and perhaps in the future, there can be an artifact based set or something similar where "colorless matters", but overall, it's, for the most part, as saka mentioned, pointless otherwise. I don't want "colorless" to become the "sixth color", it makes things overly complex for no reason, especially since it won't hold a candle in the older formats, unless they make something completely broken that can last in an eternal format like Modern or Legacy, which they can't do.


Well, they almost did that with True-Name Nemesis for legacy. Heck, they had to print a different card that could specifically counter it.
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BlinkXPoke Cards and Hugs abound
xihiroix wrote...
BlinkXPoke wrote...
sakabato24 wrote...
I have to agree with Blink here in saying that it might be a 'Zendikar-Only' kinda deal.

My personal opinion about it though is that it's nice to have actual Colorless mana, especially for Colorless EDH Commanders like Karn and Ulamog, but I personally think the symbol is kinda pointless and I personally hope that it doesn't show up after Oath. But, that's just me. I feel like it is an unnecessary change if it does show up elsewhere.


Thinking along the same vein here.

It's a great preemptive method for perhaps something in the future. I mean, it makes sense now, with Eldrazi being as strange as they are, actually needing coloured mana and such, and perhaps in the future, there can be an artifact based set or something similar where "colorless matters", but overall, it's, for the most part, as saka mentioned, pointless otherwise. I don't want "colorless" to become the "sixth color", it makes things overly complex for no reason, especially since it won't hold a candle in the older formats, unless they make something completely broken that can last in an eternal format like Modern or Legacy, which they can't do.


Well, they almost did that with True-Name Nemesis for legacy. Heck, they had to print a different card that could specifically counter it.


True-Name Nemesis was never in Standard. If something on TNN's level was ever printed in Standard, the whole format would be warped to either include or counteract it, which is bad for the game. That was in a Commander set, where they print absurd Legacy playables kinda randomly (TNN is pretty terrible in EDH, same with other Legacy staples that only exist in these sets).
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xihiroix Sun Worshipper
You also have stuff like Death-Mist Raptor, Atarka's Command, Den Protector, Flip-Jace, etc. that very much changed the direction of standard as a format.
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BlinkXPoke Cards and Hugs abound
xihiroix wrote...
You also have stuff like Death-Mist Raptor, Atarka's Command, Den Protector, Flip-Jace, etc. that very much changed the direction of standard as a format.


Jace definitely did weird things to the format, but those other cards are beatable by relatively normal cards. Even Jace I don't believe is completely format warping. There are top-tier decks that do just fine without Jace.

I'm thinking more on the Delver era where there was only Delver and anti-Delver decks. Gut Shot is a pretty marginal card that was an easy four-of main because of Delver. Same was true of Fume Spitter, Mental Misstep, and other seemingly situational/niche cards that saw much more play than usual due to something that was super dominant.
(Misstep was simply amazing, though, as it turned out, so that card is less niche, though in that Standard, it still kinda was a more marginal card that saw a lot of play due to Delver.)
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xihiroix Sun Worshipper
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BlinkXPoke wrote...
xihiroix wrote...
You also have stuff like Death-Mist Raptor, Atarka's Command, Den Protector, Flip-Jace, etc. that very much changed the direction of standard as a format.


Jace definitely did weird things to the format, but those other cards are beatable by relatively normal cards. Even Jace I don't believe is completely format warping. There are top-tier decks that do just fine without Jace.

I'm thinking more on the Delver era where there was only Delver and anti-Delver decks. Gut Shot is a pretty marginal card that was an easy four-of main because of Delver. Same was true of Fume Spitter, Mental Misstep, and other seemingly situational/niche cards that saw much more play than usual due to something that was super dominant.
(Misstep was simply amazing, though, as it turned out, so that card is less niche, though in that Standard, it still kinda was a more marginal card that saw a lot of play due to Delver.)


I agree that those cards can be relatively easy to deal with, but I mentioned them in particular because all it takes is one turn for them to all turn into a really nasty problem. Not to mention cards like Monastery Swiftspear that were legacy playable from their printing. There are very few cards in standard that turn into such an explosive problem.
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sakabato24 World Warrior
BlinkXPoke wrote...
xihiroix wrote...
You also have stuff like Death-Mist Raptor, Atarka's Command, Den Protector, Flip-Jace, etc. that very much changed the direction of standard as a format.


Jace definitely did weird things to the format, but those other cards are beatable by relatively normal cards. Even Jace I don't believe is completely format warping. There are top-tier decks that do just fine without Jace.

I'm thinking more on the Delver era where there was only Delver and anti-Delver decks. Gut Shot is a pretty marginal card that was an easy four-of main because of Delver. Same was true of Fume Spitter, Mental Misstep, and other seemingly situational/niche cards that saw much more play than usual due to something that was super dominant.
(Misstep was simply amazing, though, as it turned out, so that card is less niche, though in that Standard, it still kinda was a more marginal card that saw a lot of play due to Delver.)


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xihiroix Sun Worshipper
sakabato24 wrote...
BlinkXPoke wrote...
xihiroix wrote...
You also have stuff like Death-Mist Raptor, Atarka's Command, Den Protector, Flip-Jace, etc. that very much changed the direction of standard as a format.


Jace definitely did weird things to the format, but those other cards are beatable by relatively normal cards. Even Jace I don't believe is completely format warping. There are top-tier decks that do just fine without Jace.

I'm thinking more on the Delver era where there was only Delver and anti-Delver decks. Gut Shot is a pretty marginal card that was an easy four-of main because of Delver. Same was true of Fume Spitter, Mental Misstep, and other seemingly situational/niche cards that saw much more play than usual due to something that was super dominant.
(Misstep was simply amazing, though, as it turned out, so that card is less niche, though in that Standard, it still kinda was a more marginal card that saw a lot of play due to Delver.)


You forgot something :
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Yes, who doesn't love the swords? Lol
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sakabato24 World Warrior
What do you guys think of the new B/W Eldrazi Decks that are popping up in Modern right now?
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xihiroix Sun Worshipper
sakabato24 wrote...
What do you guys think of the new B/W Eldrazi Decks that are popping up in Modern right now?


CAWCAW LIFEGAIN DEATH. <-- This is my opinion.

Honestly, you could make it work very well. You have a lot of removal, so power cards like Tarmogoyf and Twin aren't nearly as effective. Decks that play spell snare are just like "fuck me sideways." The only problems I can see this type of deck encountering are hyper aggro decks that just ravage you by turn 3.

EDIT: Or diddle decks. Gotta love them diddle decks.
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BlinkXPoke Cards and Hugs abound
sakabato24 wrote...
What do you guys think of the new B/W Eldrazi Decks that are popping up in Modern right now?


So, my biggest issue when thinking of how the concept could even work was the fact that most Eldrazi worth playing were expensive, mana-wise. How did they get this out without Tron (and on that note, why not just play Tron)?

Then I saw that "Eldrazi Temple card in the list. I haven't really seen this card.
It reminded me chatting with my friends, bringing up this: "Food for thought, would City of Traitors or Ancient Tomb be acceptable in Modern?" My friends and my boss agreed that those lands that tap for multiple mana with much less downside would be very broken.

Eldrazi Temple is exactly that sort of card. A very low-committing card that ramps your deck very quickly to actually pretty decent effects. If Blight Herder and Drowner of Hope were always turned on, they're actually pretty unstoppable. The deck seems like it'll always let you get three UNCOUNTERABLE scions each time a Blight Herder is cast, and Drowner seems like it's backbreaking if it's able to resolve, thus, pretty broken against non-blue decks, and the fact that the deck is threat heavy enough to deal with the blue decks' answers in order to stick one. Finally, Oblivion Sower is a sweet way to go even bigger, in yet another UNCOUNTERABLE way.

So, it does seem actually pretty viable to me. There's good way to realistically cast these big threats, and it's paired with decent enablers (I've played a number of maindeck Relic of Progenitus decks). Hopefully it sticks around, it's definitely interesting. It's nice to see that Modern finally got something to spice it up (I still love the format, but it was a bit stale).
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Planning to go back to play MTG.

Any one here knows where i can get this cards in the Philippines?


4x Seat of the synod,
4x Vault of whispers,
4x ancient den,
4x tree of tales,
4x great furnace,
4x howling mine,
2x cranial plating
4x Phrexian walker
4x welding jar

Planning to create an affinity deck on a budget just to piss someone off.
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xihiroix Sun Worshipper
bobing wrote...
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Planning to go back to play MTG.

Any one here knows where i can get this cards in the Philippines?


4x Seat of the synod,
4x Vault of whispers,
4x ancient den,
4x tree of tales,
4x great furnace,
4x howling mine,
2x cranial plating
4x Phrexian walker
4x welding jar

Planning to create an affinity deck on a budget just to piss someone off.


Just order cards on ebay, amazon, or tcgplayer.
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sakabato24 World Warrior
I've been playing Twin since the ban of Seething Song for Storm. This ban kinda puts the nail into the coffin for me to play Modern. I understand why they would ban Twin since it was the most played deck in Modern, but at the same time, this killed a whole deck and that means that they have killed a lot of players that played Modern.

With the price of Burnwillows at already $100, I will not be surprised to see them go up even higher due to Tron being the next deck on the top.

Jund and Junk have a particularly hard time dealing with Tron lands without the overusage of Ghost Quarter, and Scapeshift and Ad Nauseum are slower clocks than that of Twin.

The only other deck I can think of that has a deck fast clock on the opponent is Infect.

I believe WotC went the wrong way with this. If anything, they should print better cards that could beat Twin out, not destroy a whole deck, especially one that is played by a vast majority of your Modern players played.