[Locked] Fakku isn't 4Chan or /b/
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Last I checked, most people tend to complain about how 4Chan, mainly /b/, is made of fail. I don't know what exactly causes the fail there, probably all the trolling, pedophiles and idiots who are so easily fooled that they save viral type content to their computer and end up spamming up the place. Or maybe it's the underage children who spout memes like crazy to fit in and look cool, when... when it all comes down to it, you're anonymous and it won't have any amazing effect on you.
But that's not really the point of this thread, finding out why it's said to fail.
I'm mainly posting this thread as a method of addressing the "issue"1 of how many things from 4Chan have been carried into Fakku. I'll post examples in a spoiler/spoilers. If you've been to 4Chan (mainly /b/) enough, you should be able to easily take note of the "garbage" that's being brought here.
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Despite all the "trash"2, there are some positive responses toward it:
Anyway, I don't quite know exactly what I'm aiming to accomplish with this thread. And since not many people have said much, it's probably not that big an issue. I mean, it's not like when there were protests/threads about banning FreeNadia or anything. This is something small, I guess. And for the most part, I don't really have a problem with it (after all, with some people, it can be pretty amusing).
I just want other's opinion on the matter. Discuss?
-HentaiElder
p.s. One of our members, ShaggyJebus has been on 4Chan for years I believe. Yet, unlike some people here (who go to 4chan), he doesn't post crap from that site. I guess that just goes to show that sometimes you need to know what's appropriate and what might not be. Also, if I quoted your post and you have a problem with it, PM me or leave a post and I'll delete it. Finally, In before 4chan Lmao.
1- "Issue" can be taken as a sign that something is negative. While the situation that I'm addressing may not be negative to you, it sorta is to me, though it's not driving me crazy.
2-"trash", like the above word, issue, can certainly be looked at negatively and it refers to the stuff brought from 4Chan and dropped on Fakku.
3- Though the person who posted that quote made a misogynistic post, something that you see on 4chan, I chose not to post his name because of respect for him.. Plus, I believe he wasn't all that serious. But either way, I suppose it shouldn't be. But whatever.
But that's not really the point of this thread, finding out why it's said to fail.
I'm mainly posting this thread as a method of addressing the "issue"1 of how many things from 4Chan have been carried into Fakku. I'll post examples in a spoiler/spoilers. If you've been to 4Chan (mainly /b/) enough, you should be able to easily take note of the "garbage" that's being brought here.
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Despite all the "trash"2, there are some positive responses toward it:
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Anyway, I don't quite know exactly what I'm aiming to accomplish with this thread. And since not many people have said much, it's probably not that big an issue. I mean, it's not like when there were protests/threads about banning FreeNadia or anything. This is something small, I guess. And for the most part, I don't really have a problem with it (after all, with some people, it can be pretty amusing).
I just want other's opinion on the matter. Discuss?
-HentaiElder
p.s. One of our members, ShaggyJebus has been on 4Chan for years I believe. Yet, unlike some people here (who go to 4chan), he doesn't post crap from that site. I guess that just goes to show that sometimes you need to know what's appropriate and what might not be. Also, if I quoted your post and you have a problem with it, PM me or leave a post and I'll delete it. Finally, In before 4chan Lmao.
1- "Issue" can be taken as a sign that something is negative. While the situation that I'm addressing may not be negative to you, it sorta is to me, though it's not driving me crazy.
2-"trash", like the above word, issue, can certainly be looked at negatively and it refers to the stuff brought from 4Chan and dropped on Fakku.
3- Though the person who posted that quote made a misogynistic post, something that you see on 4chan, I chose not to post his name because of respect for him.. Plus, I believe he wasn't all that serious. But either way, I suppose it shouldn't be. But whatever.
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If people want to post that crap, they should do so in IB - I don't think anywhere where posts count should consider memes as a valuable contribution. I also think that anywhere else, anything offensive in that vein should be taken seriously, even if someone knows it wasn't meant to be; with IB you kind of know what you're getting, but out of that jesting context people have mistakenly taken things to heart.
And of course, I don't think everyone deserves to be universally subjected to the stuff regardless.
And of course, I don't think everyone deserves to be universally subjected to the stuff regardless.
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HentaiElder wrote...
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Oh (inserts persons username which he knows here), that was a funny ass post.
I've noticed some people were referred here from 4chan. Plus, this is the internet, people don't give a shit about being racist and shit.
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I've learned not to care. The internet is supposed to be a freeing place where you can talk about anything. I just choose to ignore all of the 4chan-esque responses, but I think they are well in their right to act that way if they so choose.
I was never active, but I've been on 4chan for years and I've seen it all, and none of it bothers me that much. It is just what this generation is up to. Give it a few years and no one will remember it and those who act like that will be ostracised.
I was never active, but I've been on 4chan for years and I've seen it all, and none of it bothers me that much. It is just what this generation is up to. Give it a few years and no one will remember it and those who act like that will be ostracised.
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Brittany
Director of Production
The nigger thing really should be censored down a bit. I'm not afraid of the word, but it's a sensitive word for a lot of other people.
Like G-money said, whether it's a joke or not, a lot of people get offensive about it. And the last thing we need is for Fakku to get in trouble some how.
I remember that post with the women and kitchen ;p he was kidding. Hell I didn't even get offended. Though I'm used to hanging around guys and those kind of jokes I can roll with because I know they're light hearted.
Like G-money said, whether it's a joke or not, a lot of people get offensive about it. And the last thing we need is for Fakku to get in trouble some how.
I remember that post with the women and kitchen ;p he was kidding. Hell I didn't even get offended. Though I'm used to hanging around guys and those kind of jokes I can roll with because I know they're light hearted.
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Good! I'm not mentioned in those posts.
First off you can't expect a certain level of maturity here being a forum of a porn site. I love it here but the fact remains this is a porn site, porn sites don't scream serious business.
I think mods should be stricter though. We have a forum for spamming (4chan~like behavoir) I feel people should just keep it in there.
First off you can't expect a certain level of maturity here being a forum of a porn site. I love it here but the fact remains this is a porn site, porn sites don't scream serious business.
I think mods should be stricter though. We have a forum for spamming (4chan~like behavoir) I feel people should just keep it in there.
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HentaiElder wrote...
p.s. One of our members, ShaggyJebus has been on 4Chan for years I believe. Yet, unlike some people here (who go to 4chan), he doesn't post crap from that site. I guess that just goes to show that sometimes you need to know what's appropriate and what might not be. Also, if I quoted your post and you have a problem with it, PM me or leave a post and I'll delete it. Finally, In before 4chan Lmao.I am honored.
Anyway, yeah, I first visited 4chan years ago. I don't visit much anymore, partly because instead of funny conversations and topics, it's just anger and stupid shit passed off as humor.
The stuff that's said on 4chan (specifically, /b/) is funny in its own pocket universe. Being racist on /b/ is alright; it's accepted there, because nothing is serious on /b/. If you say something on /b/ and expect it to be taken as fact, then you're an idiot. So, if you take something that's funny on /b/ and say it somewhere else, people may think you're serious, and it can look very bad. Even if it's a place where jokes are often made, the kind of humor found on 4chan often should stay on 4chan. It's similar to how I can act like a pedophile around my friends, and we'll all laugh, but if I do it in a classroom, trying to get people to laugh, it probably won't fly. My friends know that I'm not a pedophile; my classmates don't. My friends laugh; my classmates don't.
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@lollollol12: is that stupidity I see?
@HentaiElder: +rep you when I get the chance. (I never forget my reppings) I've personally never been on 4chan except for the rapidshares section (rs.4chan.org), but I have a very strong incentive not to. 4chan has an administrative staff from what I can tell, but they're so freakin lax and there's too many things that goes on in 4chan for complete 24/7 monitoring. It's also full of bullshit and fail that you wouldn't find at FAKKU! where most users and the admin staff don't take shit from others. (me for example)
Honestly, people who join FAKKU! forums have to understand that this isn't a community to post your crap to be cool. We're here because we like hentai and many other things and discuss things in a civil manner where everyone can participate and have a good debate. You wanna bring 4chan here, then get the fuck out, because we don't take shit like that.
On a less defensive stance, I think that it isn't quite the problem aside from the rise of trolls, spammers, and -reppers. (Yes, I have seen cases of unjustified -reppings...) 4chan users often stick to themselves, and I think many users can tell that there is a huge fundamental difference between FAKKU! and 4chan, and usually new users learn the ropes. Still, joking can only go so far, and FAKKU! rules state that no offensive/racist/sexist posts should be made. While I don't view 4chan-going-into-FAKKU! as much of a problem, I do think users should be more aware that this is a regular forum that is in no shape way or form like 4chan and that they get used to rules and moderating from the administrative staff.
@HentaiElder: +rep you when I get the chance. (I never forget my reppings) I've personally never been on 4chan except for the rapidshares section (rs.4chan.org), but I have a very strong incentive not to. 4chan has an administrative staff from what I can tell, but they're so freakin lax and there's too many things that goes on in 4chan for complete 24/7 monitoring. It's also full of bullshit and fail that you wouldn't find at FAKKU! where most users and the admin staff don't take shit from others. (me for example)
Honestly, people who join FAKKU! forums have to understand that this isn't a community to post your crap to be cool. We're here because we like hentai and many other things and discuss things in a civil manner where everyone can participate and have a good debate. You wanna bring 4chan here, then get the fuck out, because we don't take shit like that.
On a less defensive stance, I think that it isn't quite the problem aside from the rise of trolls, spammers, and -reppers. (Yes, I have seen cases of unjustified -reppings...) 4chan users often stick to themselves, and I think many users can tell that there is a huge fundamental difference between FAKKU! and 4chan, and usually new users learn the ropes. Still, joking can only go so far, and FAKKU! rules state that no offensive/racist/sexist posts should be made. While I don't view 4chan-going-into-FAKKU! as much of a problem, I do think users should be more aware that this is a regular forum that is in no shape way or form like 4chan and that they get used to rules and moderating from the administrative staff.
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g-money wrote...
@lollollol12: is that stupidity I see?@HentaiElder: +rep you when I get the chance. (I never forget my reppings) I've personally never been on 4chan except for the rapidshares section (rs.4chan.org), but I have a very strong incentive not to. 4chan has an administrative staff from what I can tell, but they're so freakin lax and there's too many things that goes on in 4chan for complete 24/7 monitoring. It's also full of bullshit and fail that you wouldn't find at FAKKU! where most users and the admin staff don't take shit from others. (me for example)
Honestly, people who join FAKKU! forums have to understand that this isn't a community to post your crap to be cool. We're here because we like hentai and many other things and discuss things in a civil manner where everyone can participate and have a good debate. You wanna bring 4chan here, then get the fuck out, because we don't take shit like that.
On a less defensive stance, I think that it isn't quite the problem aside from the rise of trolls, spammers, and -reppers. (Yes, I have seen cases of unjustified -reppings...) 4chan users often stick to themselves, and I think many users can tell that there is a huge fundamental difference between FAKKU! and 4chan, and usually new users learn the ropes. Still, joking can only go so far, and FAKKU! rules state that no offensive/racist/sexist posts should be made. While I don't view 4chan-going-into-FAKKU! as much of a problem, I do think users should be more aware that this is a regular forum that is in no shape way or form like 4chan and that they get used to rules and moderating from the administrative staff.
Lax doesn't even begin to describe the attitude of 4chan. Not until the site was actually under FBI investigation for the linking of child pornography did the staff begin to actually censor what goes through that site.
I guess it does depend on the content. Silly 4chan memes and things don't bug me, but the racist comments are going too far. People seem to misunderstand what Freedom of Speech actually means because I've heard that defense used on countless occasions when it doesn't even apply. -_-
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Don't really know what you’re trying to get across with this thread. Maybe that you don't want Fakku to become 4Chan? I don't want that either I guess it’s possible, but is there really a need to worry about it? The reason 4Chan feel apart is lack monitoring and bad admids. Fakku has great mods and admids so there’s not much to worry about.
As for the use of racial slurs it’s the internet so it’s not avoidable. While some people will avoid hurting people’s feelings some won’t. Oh about not allowing those words would be censorship and that’s bad. People should stop themselves from saying racial slurs to avoid hurting people not because they are told not to.
As for the use of racial slurs it’s the internet so it’s not avoidable. While some people will avoid hurting people’s feelings some won’t. Oh about not allowing those words would be censorship and that’s bad. People should stop themselves from saying racial slurs to avoid hurting people not because they are told not to.
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Hey, I'm there and I don't even post on 4chan! Seriously, those were obviously jokes. Anyone who takes what is obviously a joke seriously is stupid. Also, the only reason people complain about 4chan is due to there preconceived notions. 4chan has produced a fair amount of funny things (memes included) that everyone thinks are stupid, simply because they came from places like /b/. I mean, it's not like we constantly have threads asking for CP or some form of "roll" game or Xfags, post here, so why are you complaining? Also, lollollol12 doesn't even act like he's from /b/. Typing in ALL CAPS doesn't mean he's from /b/. I guarantee you, if you go on /b/ right now very few people will be posting in ALL CAPS. Also, I only post memes in troll threads or when the posting of said meme results in hilarity.
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Since I asked for your opinions, despite who you are, I will be responding to all posts. If I miss yours, just let me know (though likely, I'll check back and get to it myself. Especially if you posted a few seconds before i finished a post).
Find your post in the spoilers below, and you'll see that I responded.
[lollollol12 and doswillrule]
[Rbz and Tsurayu]
[ZiggyOtaku]
[Harmonian]
[ShaggyJebus]
Find your post in the spoilers below, and you'll see that I responded.
[lollollol12 and doswillrule]
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[Rbz and Tsurayu]
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[ZiggyOtaku]
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[Harmonian]
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[ShaggyJebus]
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[g-money]
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[Tsurayu (again)]
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[GinIchimaru_09]
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[Midgar]
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LONGEST POST EVAR. Lmao.. that took a while.
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MidgarKonotsu wrote...
Hey, I'm there and I don't even post on 4chan! Seriously, those were obviously jokes. Anyone who takes what is obviously a joke seriously is stupid.Though they were obviously jokes, they still go against the rules that FAKKU! has already laid out.
MK wrote...
Also, lollollol12 doesn't even act like he's from /b/. Typing in ALL CAPS doesn't mean he's from /b/. You're right. He's just being a pest.
EDIT: And why does it seem like you're trying your best to defend 4chan, MK?
EDIT2: GAH, HentaiElder mentioned it already... I'm always getting beat to what I'm going to say :/
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Catcher wrote...
EDIT: And why does it seem like you're trying your best to defend 4chan, MK?
EDIT2: GAH, HentaiElder mentioned it already... I'm always getting beat to what I'm going to say :/
Lol, even then I appreciate your response because it shows that I'm not the only one who thought so. :] Haha, so thank you.
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Let's go out on a limb and say 5% of what /b/ produces is actually funny outside of /b/. Is it really a big deal then if that 5% manages to find it's way to the IB section? I don't think so, it's funny, so what's the problem?
The problem is the other 95% of crap that spews forth from 4chan's bowels. The whole n-word overuse, the misogyny, the pointless memes and so on. What a lot of people do when they're posting something offensive is think "Oh it's a joke, everyone will laugh and no one's gonna care." Without giving any thought to that one person who DOESN'T think it's a joke, and DOES care. There's nothing stopping people from posting their garbage, it's a free country as they say. But just because you can doesn't make it alright. People need to learn that manners and common sense should be in use online just as much as they are off.
The problem is the other 95% of crap that spews forth from 4chan's bowels. The whole n-word overuse, the misogyny, the pointless memes and so on. What a lot of people do when they're posting something offensive is think "Oh it's a joke, everyone will laugh and no one's gonna care." Without giving any thought to that one person who DOESN'T think it's a joke, and DOES care. There's nothing stopping people from posting their garbage, it's a free country as they say. But just because you can doesn't make it alright. People need to learn that manners and common sense should be in use online just as much as they are off.
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Vasuki wrote...
The problem is the other 95% of crap that spews forth from 4chan's bowels. The whole n-word overuse, the misogyny, the pointless memes and so on. What a lot of people do when they're posting something offensive is think "Oh it's a joke, everyone will laugh and no one's gonna care." Without giving any thought to that one person who DOESN'T think it's a joke, and DOES care. There's nothing stopping people from posting their garbage, it's a free country as they say. But just because you can doesn't make it alright. People need to learn that manners and common sense should be in use online just as much as they are off.You got that right. Netiquette is just as important as etiquette in real life, and trust me, I've become a lot more conscious when I write e-mails to other people because it conveys a sense of who you are as a person. It even becomes more important in the work place. And seriously, doesn't mean you can say whatever you want and get away with it because it isn't right. I don't understand why people don't get this concept, and this applies to online communication as well.
@Harmonian: like what HentaiElder replied, I do expect maturity from a HENTAI site (this is not a PORN site) because hentai are meant for 18 years old and plus, though I'm sure many users aren't of age, but they keep to themselves. Sex on any level of discussion requires a sense of maturity. You laugh every time I say, "Penis," you don't belong here. (This was an example from my seventh-grade health teacher) So yea, I expect seriousness from a hentai site, and there's lots of fun to be had, but under control with moderation.
@HentaiElder: I do feel that IB becoming full of crap as of late, but as long as it stays there, it shouldn't be too much of a problem. In the near future this might need a revisitation. Oh yeah, it's good to be back.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
As much as I hate meme spam and /b/ content I really believe this post will do nothing but create more. Why draw attention to it? the users who care already don't use memes excessively, and the users that don't care wont give a shit about you/this thread/fakku in general. Simply making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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Waar wrote...
As much as I hate meme spam and /b/ content I really believe this post will do nothing but create more. Why draw attention to it? the users who care already don't use memes excessively, and the users that don't care wont give a shit about you/this thread/fakku in general. Simply making a mountain out of a mole hill.You have a point as usual, but users who don't care usually don't bother checking out the serious discussion section except for the few trolls. I think he had a valid point in bringing it up though, and it's worthy of attention.
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[Vasuki]
[Waar]
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Edit @Waar: Haha, and as g-money said above, they probably won't check this section.. but.. the 4chan part might pull em in.. but then there's all the text. and who wants to read that? Certainly not anyone who acts immaturely..
It'll be too much to handle.