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Alright, here's the thing.
Though, in my country [the United States] there is a whole bunch of stuff going on in regards to this subject, I'd like to point out something:
Most people in Japan would refer to a pædophile as a ãƒãƒªã‚³ãƒ³ [lolicon], and while I'm sure that many people here like that stuff, it isn't normal, full stop.
I do share the belief that there really isn't anything different between having a lolita complex, and being a pædophile.
Though, in my country [the United States] there is a whole bunch of stuff going on in regards to this subject, I'd like to point out something:
Most people in Japan would refer to a pædophile as a ãƒãƒªã‚³ãƒ³ [lolicon], and while I'm sure that many people here like that stuff, it isn't normal, full stop.
I do share the belief that there really isn't anything different between having a lolita complex, and being a pædophile.
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
Mash Karas wrote...
Alright, here's the thing.Though, in my country [the United States] there is a whole bunch of stuff going on in regards to this subject, I'd like to point out something:
Most people in Japan would refer to a pædophile as a ãƒãƒªã‚³ãƒ³ [lolicon], and while I'm sure that many people here like that stuff, it isn't normal, full stop.
I do share the belief that there really isn't anything different between having a lolita complex, and being a pædophile.
You know what? That's just your opinion.
Know something else? Even if that was the case, and lolicon were pedophiles, how does that give you the right to prosecute these people? Being a pedophile is *not* a crime, one can't help what they're turned on by. Just because one has sinister urges does not mean, they'll act on it.
Moreover what right does society have to ban this material? Its production and consumption didn't endanger a single kid and while you might find it disgusting, I feel the same about your though-police approach to life.
Tell you what, we can ban loli and kill pedophiles, if in turn I can lobotomize authoritarian little shits like you... sounds fair, right? After all, you did advocate trampling on the liberties on someone who never caused you any harm, using the same logic I can hand out whatever abhorrent shit tickles my fancies on people who don't fit my image of a "perfect citizens".
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Flaser wrote...
Mash Karas wrote...
Alright, here's the thing.Though, in my country [the United States] there is a whole bunch of stuff going on in regards to this subject, I'd like to point out something:
Most people in Japan would refer to a pædophile as a ãƒãƒªã‚³ãƒ³ [lolicon], and while I'm sure that many people here like that stuff, it isn't normal, full stop.
I do share the belief that there really isn't anything different between having a lolita complex, and being a pædophile.
You know what? That's just your opinion.
Know something else? Even if that was the case, and lolicon were pedophiles, how does that give you the right to prosecute these people? Being a pedophile is *not* a crime, one can't help what they're turned on by. Just because one has sinister urges does not mean, they'll act on it.
Moreover what right does society have to ban this material? Its production and consumption didn't endanger a single kid and while you might find it disgusting, I feel the same about your though-police approach to life.
Tell you what, we can ban loli and kill pedophiles, if in turn I can lobotomize authoritarian little shits like you... sounds fair, right? After all, you did advocate trampling on the liberties on someone who never caused you any harm, using the same logic I can hand out whatever abhorrent shit tickles my fancies on people who don't fit my image of a "perfect citizens".
You're right; that is my opinion, and nothing else. I never said otherwise.
I never said that we should kill pædophiles. I simply said that I don't see the appeal in lolita complex-based manga.
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Damn it the rest of the world should really learn that:
Lolicons aren't pedophiles ( hell parents are more likely to abuse their kids than lolicons)
If you don't watch anime then you have no right to judge it
They have no right to give a damn about other peoples thoughts or fetish
The have no right to even give a sh*t about other peoples fetish
They have no right to ******* about other peoples fetish
They have no f***ing right to mess with the artistic world
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Don't listen to soccer moms....they won't stop till anime and sentai (honestly why is power rangers even rated pg?) gets rated 18+
and kids ages 1- 17 watch only sesame street and teletubbies
Just because you hate it doesn't others should too....give them a break as long as no one gets hurt
on a side note, lolicons and otakus continue to do their best trying to harmonize with the world in peace yet why does it reject them as if they were vermin.
whatever I already made myself a sh*t load of lolis just in case and will make more as soon as I get my own private atelier. THERE"S NO STOPPING US WHO DO YOU THINK WE ARE!!!! (plays ten wo tsuke on loud speaker)
Lolicons aren't pedophiles ( hell parents are more likely to abuse their kids than lolicons)
If you don't watch anime then you have no right to judge it
They have no right to give a damn about other peoples thoughts or fetish
The have no right to even give a sh*t about other peoples fetish
They have no right to ******* about other peoples fetish
They have no f***ing right to mess with the artistic world
and
Don't listen to soccer moms....they won't stop till anime and sentai (honestly why is power rangers even rated pg?) gets rated 18+
and kids ages 1- 17 watch only sesame street and teletubbies
Just because you hate it doesn't others should too....give them a break as long as no one gets hurt
on a side note, lolicons and otakus continue to do their best trying to harmonize with the world in peace yet why does it reject them as if they were vermin.
whatever I already made myself a sh*t load of lolis just in case and will make more as soon as I get my own private atelier. THERE"S NO STOPPING US WHO DO YOU THINK WE ARE!!!! (plays ten wo tsuke on loud speaker)
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Someone should make a loli hentai depicting what the government did to little girls at the Allen Memorial Institute during the 1950's! And they can't do shit about it because it is not a porno, but depictions of historical FACTS!
For anyone unfamiliar with MKUltra and the Allen Memorial Institute, imagine having a medically-induced paralysis for 110 days while a looped audio tape is playing in the background and you're frequently given a total of 360 high voltage shocks to induce a trauma based amnesia over the course of weeks and MONTHS! Oh, and then after that, how about being raped by a gang of potbellied politicians?
Yeah, troll them hard! Use their own actions against them, and make the most fucking disgusting loli hentai ever!
For anyone unfamiliar with MKUltra and the Allen Memorial Institute, imagine having a medically-induced paralysis for 110 days while a looped audio tape is playing in the background and you're frequently given a total of 360 high voltage shocks to induce a trauma based amnesia over the course of weeks and MONTHS! Oh, and then after that, how about being raped by a gang of potbellied politicians?
Yeah, troll them hard! Use their own actions against them, and make the most fucking disgusting loli hentai ever!
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What is this witch craft?
They can ban it, i needs my loli.
Even tho i dont live in japan and im far from being a jap. I still enjoy loli.
They should keep it.
They can ban it, i needs my loli.
Even tho i dont live in japan and im far from being a jap. I still enjoy loli.
They should keep it.
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artcellrox
The Grey Knight :y
guammastermind671 wrote...
This is not acceptable!!! Thread is more than 2 years old. Give it a rest, people.
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artcellrox wrote...
guammastermind671 wrote...
This is not acceptable!!! Thread is more than 2 years old. Give it a rest, people.
Necroing is annoying as hell.
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I would say it makes sense in the way that govrenments and officials often conglomerate all derived products of a single idea and brand them under one name.
Here, they are assimilating loli with child pornography. Which is comprehensible, because the only thing that differentiates the two is that one of them isn't real and is just on paper.
So I can understand the idea, but personnally don't think it to be a good one, because as said, it would considerably limit the mangakas in their work (freedom of expression) and it would only entice more peolple to do more of these, on the illegal side, which could turn out all sorts of horrible.
Here, they are assimilating loli with child pornography. Which is comprehensible, because the only thing that differentiates the two is that one of them isn't real and is just on paper.
So I can understand the idea, but personnally don't think it to be a good one, because as said, it would considerably limit the mangakas in their work (freedom of expression) and it would only entice more peolple to do more of these, on the illegal side, which could turn out all sorts of horrible.
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I agree with it. Artistry is freedom of expression as long as it doesnt hurt anyone or will offend personally then it shouldn't be banned. but thats just my opinion, maybe there a story behind the banning
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PumpJack McGee wrote...
I'd say it's simply 'cause they're getting a lot of flak for it from the western societies, which does induce socio/political tension. They're trying to improve their global image, basically, since over on this side of the pond most folks consider that type of stuff as depraved and immoral.
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Loli, like child porn, can be banned, but not stopped, specially since there is no illegal procedures to create the materials. It's as futile as to ban piracy.
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As long as the jap's want to ban loli it's ok, but to me they will lose some of their income to boost their country economy. An artist could go to some country that haven't banned it then make it there to bad we have chosen to banned it if not we could be the one generating money from this art.
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I remember reading about this on some anime news website, but I can't remember which one. I just know that they at least wanted to ban not only loli, but anything that depicts minors doing something illegal for their age group. Something about how it promotes behavior deemed bad. So it's not limited to just loli, but all anime. I think they even used Oreimo as an example because Kirino buys porn games.
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This discussion has been going for a while and i say it's completely pointless.
Loli is not going to be banned in japan, it never will.
Look at the anime charts, half of the season's animes are moe-loli oriented, not to mention 2-4 Loli hentai releases every month, and let's not talk about the crapton of loli eroges being released on markets every week lol, Loli is FAR from being banned.
Loli is not going to be banned in japan, it never will.
Look at the anime charts, half of the season's animes are moe-loli oriented, not to mention 2-4 Loli hentai releases every month, and let's not talk about the crapton of loli eroges being released on markets every week lol, Loli is FAR from being banned.
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Well fuck me, i had plans to go up there and blow all my american money on loli.
Plans are cancelled. :
Plans are cancelled. :
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Loli is NOT child porn. It has almost nothing in common except for the fact it both features children. I mean, do you really feel the same thing reading loli and watching child porn(if you ever did). Well, I've never set eyes on child porn but, just from seeing a real life little girl and telling myself "wow, there are actually people fucked up enough to make such a cute thing have porn sex(because porn sex can much vary from real life sex)", I was utterly disgusted. Yet I love loli. It's just two different things. It's like Coca and Pepsi, looking the same, but there is a fundamental difference.