Mandalorian Culture
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I was hoping to have a serious discussion on Mandalorian culture, such as what you, were you a character in Star Wars, would think of Mandalorians based on what you know about them. Oya Manda!
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Well, I think that most people would see them as an enigmatic mercenary people who are few and far between. If you don't have a job for them, stay as far away as possible.
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Mandalorians seem a lot like the Korgans from Mass Effect. I respect them and they can definitely be bad ass. Though looking at their culture I would probably not want to eat, sleep, and breath WAR twenty four seven.
It would surely pay off (see what I did there?) though to be friends with some or at least have the respect of them.
It would surely pay off (see what I did there?) though to be friends with some or at least have the respect of them.
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Mandalorians were always a force to be feared, from the war with Exar Kun to the Mandalorian wars themselves. Even though they were defeated both times, the mere mentioning of their name would cause an entire room to go quiet.
Now that being said, their current status as mercenaries just shows their true nature. It is simple bloodlust, you can call it being raised for warfare but the fact that they are more willing to be in a force that has no discipline shows that they are in it for the blood and nothing more.
Now that being said, their current status as mercenaries just shows their true nature. It is simple bloodlust, you can call it being raised for warfare but the fact that they are more willing to be in a force that has no discipline shows that they are in it for the blood and nothing more.
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X-07 wrote...
Mandalorians were always a force to be feared, from the war with Exar Kun to the Mandalorian wars themselves. Even though they were defeated both times, the mere mentioning of their name would cause an entire room to go quiet.Now that being said, their current status as mercenaries just shows their true nature. It is simple bloodlust, you can call it being raised for warfare but the fact that they are more willing to be in a force that has no discipline shows that they are in it for the blood and nothing more.
I think you need to look a bit more into mandalorian culture. Not all mandalorians live as bounty hunters or mercenaries. Many simply fulfill nor normal jobs on Mandalore. Its not bloodlust, Its simply that Mandalorian culture often produces warriors, It simply means that mandalorians are better that Aruetii(non-mandalorians in Mando'a) at those jobs, making them natural career positions.
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Espachigo wrote...
I think you need to look a bit more into mandalorian culture. Not all mandalorians live as bounty hunters or mercenaries. Many simply fulfill nor normal jobs on Mandalore. Its not bloodlust, Its simply that Mandalorian culture often produces warriors, It simply means that mandalorians are better that Aruetii(non-mandalorians in Mando'a) at those jobs, making them natural career positions.
Well truth be told I dont know much about Mandalorians outside of the old republic era. But when the tribes adobted non-mandalorians to fight along side them it was obvious that they would choose those with tendencies towards violence. Now Im not saying bloodlust per se, but their culture creates unneeded hostilities.
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Hmmm kinda depends on who I was and where I was from wouldn't it? My knowledge of them being the same would still have different outcomes. Like if I were a Cathar I would probably think they deserve every bad thing that's ever happened to them. And if I were a Jedi I'd probably wish they'd stop being dumbasses and being patsies for the Sith. If I were a Sith I would go "oh hey there's some guys who are good for cannon fodder for my latest coup of the galaxy". If I were a normal civial I'd think they were a bunch of bad ass motherfuckers that I should avoid at all costs. If I were a non-mando bounty hunter I'd be like "fuck these guys always get all the good jobs". If I were a hutt I'd love them because they do plenty of dirty work for me. And if I were a mando I'd think that they'd gotten a lot of rotten deals in the past and live a lot more of an honest and worthwhile life than others do. If I was a shipbuilder or armormaker or such I would really envy their beskar and would probably do anything to get the secrets behind it.
Personally I think they have an interesting outlook but still a flawed one as it calls for them to constantly throw themselves into violence. They've made a lot of bad choices (some of them repeatedly) that have gone badly for them and they've made some good choices....that have also worked out badly for them. They're some of the toughest guys in the SW universe but unlike the Jedi they're clearly meant to be imperfect. They're certainly worthy of respect but not necessarily a way of living which I'd want or really encourage.
Personally I think they have an interesting outlook but still a flawed one as it calls for them to constantly throw themselves into violence. They've made a lot of bad choices (some of them repeatedly) that have gone badly for them and they've made some good choices....that have also worked out badly for them. They're some of the toughest guys in the SW universe but unlike the Jedi they're clearly meant to be imperfect. They're certainly worthy of respect but not necessarily a way of living which I'd want or really encourage.
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Karen Traviss pretty much modeled the Mandos on the Celts of Roman times. They lived in tribes, had a decentralized power structure and their laws and customs are pretty malleable - it was always about the people involved not the "Big Idea" of law and justice...
...to the Romans this was a big "Does Not Compute", they simply didn't understand these people. (Their descendants in turn were the greatest mercenaries of the Roman Empire and finally their grand descendants were the ones who brought down the Roman Empire when it finally fell apart under its own corruption).
Mandoes likewise are a pretty chaotic bunch, they have lots of customs a whole culture but no Mando state to enforce or police it. However they're not so much warmongers (some of them - especially the Death Watch - ARE) but a martial culture.
Also Mandalore (the planet) is pretty baren. By going out and doing mercenary work (how come everyone venerates the Swiss or the Spartans who did pretty much the same?) they could still buy and maintain high technology in crucial areas like medicine or manufacturing without turning their planet into an industrial sweatshop like Kuat.
Finally keep in mind, that the Mandoes were "put down" several times, their spoils of war and riches stripped from them. While some would say they fought "for" the Sith it's more like they were duped into doing so. (I think the aftermath of that war had a lot to do with the creation of the idea "artuisee"). All they had left were themselves with little land or hardware on their hand and had to live for quite a while as nomads.
Also keep in mind that they take in *anyone*. The moment you join them, you're a new person. (However this is a one-time event. Everyone deserves their chance to leave their past behind, but only *once*). Regardless species, occupation, nationality anyone can join them... even their families. In Mando culture, family isn't about blood relations but upbringing and shared experience. Understanding that you can adopt someone or get married by simply saying so over a comlink is a good key to unlocking it: your word is your honor, and it's legally binding. If you said so, it's that way.
...and all in all I wouldn't call the CIS the obvious "bad guys" of the Clone Wars. Granted in all the cartoons or prequels they're depicted as such, but Lucas' storytelling was always pretty ham-handed and didactic. Their more realistic portrayal in Traviss' books paints them as a bunch of different people with different reasons for fighting for the CIS: Ruthless industrial and robber barons, free dealing traders and "lawless" people like the Mandoes... or just plain normal governments who are sick of Republic bureaucracy that remote manages their lives.
The Republic on the other hand employed a "slave army" for all practices (clones couldn't choose not to serve, they couldn't retire or muster out of the GAR and finally they were kept alive only long as they could fight - if a clone was irrevocably crippled he was euthanized).
...to the Romans this was a big "Does Not Compute", they simply didn't understand these people. (Their descendants in turn were the greatest mercenaries of the Roman Empire and finally their grand descendants were the ones who brought down the Roman Empire when it finally fell apart under its own corruption).
Mandoes likewise are a pretty chaotic bunch, they have lots of customs a whole culture but no Mando state to enforce or police it. However they're not so much warmongers (some of them - especially the Death Watch - ARE) but a martial culture.
Also Mandalore (the planet) is pretty baren. By going out and doing mercenary work (how come everyone venerates the Swiss or the Spartans who did pretty much the same?) they could still buy and maintain high technology in crucial areas like medicine or manufacturing without turning their planet into an industrial sweatshop like Kuat.
Finally keep in mind, that the Mandoes were "put down" several times, their spoils of war and riches stripped from them. While some would say they fought "for" the Sith it's more like they were duped into doing so. (I think the aftermath of that war had a lot to do with the creation of the idea "artuisee"). All they had left were themselves with little land or hardware on their hand and had to live for quite a while as nomads.
Also keep in mind that they take in *anyone*. The moment you join them, you're a new person. (However this is a one-time event. Everyone deserves their chance to leave their past behind, but only *once*). Regardless species, occupation, nationality anyone can join them... even their families. In Mando culture, family isn't about blood relations but upbringing and shared experience. Understanding that you can adopt someone or get married by simply saying so over a comlink is a good key to unlocking it: your word is your honor, and it's legally binding. If you said so, it's that way.
...and all in all I wouldn't call the CIS the obvious "bad guys" of the Clone Wars. Granted in all the cartoons or prequels they're depicted as such, but Lucas' storytelling was always pretty ham-handed and didactic. Their more realistic portrayal in Traviss' books paints them as a bunch of different people with different reasons for fighting for the CIS: Ruthless industrial and robber barons, free dealing traders and "lawless" people like the Mandoes... or just plain normal governments who are sick of Republic bureaucracy that remote manages their lives.
The Republic on the other hand employed a "slave army" for all practices (clones couldn't choose not to serve, they couldn't retire or muster out of the GAR and finally they were kept alive only long as they could fight - if a clone was irrevocably crippled he was euthanized).