This is SO screwed up!!!!

I get 'tortured' every time I ride a bus.

On a more serious note, music is probably one of those things that guarantees a mental breakdown even if they let the prisoners sleep. I could only handle so many minutes of Barney before going crazy.

I'm offended by this, being a minor fan of Nine Inch Nails.

What kind of message are they trying to send when they play a group's song for torture? "This band sucks, so we'll going to make these prisoners listen to them!" Fuck that.

Beyond what music is being played, this is horrible. I saw a guy on the Daily Show the other day, talking about how he has never seen torture be an effective tool. What's trying to be done anyways? Are they trying to make people talk by driving them insane, or are they just torturing them for fun? Even if it is the former, it's also gotta be the latter. There's no way they could repeatedly do this sort of thing after seeing its effects so many times unless they got a sick pleasure out of it.

A lot of Americans being fat, that isn't why other countries hate the US. This is why other countries hate America.

who's the stupidasses in charge of picking our the songs? its soo mean to do that to ppl who might not even like that type of music, let alone it going for 20 hours a day.. (-.-)

This made me simultaneously laugh, go "WTF?", and stare blankly at the screen.

But I was wondering how long it would take for them to adapt it to prisons. They already use it in the military to flush people out of bunkers and interrogate them.

What do you want to do? Ask them nicely and give them cookies in exchange for selling out their comrades?



I'll point to a similar incident in panama

http://www.psywarrior.com/PanamaHerb.html

So because the prisoners hate the music, we shouldn't use it? You're right, just because they want to kill us doesn't mean we can't be nice to them. How about some soothing Mozart (The Magic Flute) or maybe some other opera? I suggest Habanera from Carmen. I could stand listening to La Dona e mobile for hours at a time. I rather like Opera especially when Luciano Pavarotti sings it.

It's not an insult to the musician. Anybody will get tired of listening to music they don't like after a few hours. I'm sure if I forced some of you to sit down and listen to opera for hours on end in uncomfortable settings. You'd break eventually.

Edit: Shaggy, they don't play it "because it sucks" they play it because that kind of music sounds like noise to them. Remember their laws prohibits listening to music. They'd go insane listening to Hannah Montana but, I'm sure even the guards were begin to crack. If I was a guard at that prison I would rather than blast NIN than Travis Tritt or something.

The guy I saw on the Daily Show is Matthew Alexander. He's recently written a book called "How to Break a Terrorist," where he explains why torture doesn't work and how to interrogate prisoners and get answers without blasting music at them or driving them insane.

It should be noted that the author definitely knows what he's talking about.



Taken from: http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1863053,00.html

We can't be obsessed with hurting these people just because they want to hurt us. If we want answers, we need to get them in the best way. This Matthew Alexander guy actually said that trying to relate to the terrorists and being nice to them while interrogating them yielded great results. Shouldn't we try that, then? Or we could continue to blast music at them, which doesn't seem to do much but hurt them.

They want to kill us. I want them to be sleep drived, cranky, tired, annoyed, pissed off, depressed, etc,etc. I'm not saying "Slam their head into a wall". I don't condone beatings to get information out of suspects either but, breaking their will. Getting inside their heads is fine and should be used. While you are doing that you can use other methods to get information out of other suspects.

In short:

Find the best method for garnering information from the suspect. As not all suspects are the same. Some are prone to weakness in other areas. When you find that weakness, pick, scratch, prod, strike that weakness until they cave.

Agreed, everyone is different. Though it would probably take an annoying amount of time to find out everyone's weakness. The music thing is crazy though. Did they just run out of ideas? I can understand both sides from the musicians. Whoever decided this though didn't think things through, it's ridiculous.

So? the terrorists want usa to burn, thus, its fine for us to beat em to the punch. They should be prepared for consequences for taking up arms. Because if they wasnt' prepared to die then why did they pick up guns and shoot with them.

that is total gloriousness. metal blasted at full volume over there

I wouldn't think listening to Pantera 20 hours a day would be that bad, but if it were some crap like Brittney spears it would be a diffrent deal =X

That's idiotic. You pay for the music, you get to use it any way you want. Musicians have no right to complain especially when they're making money off it.



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I love it when celebrities try to be political.

So you wouldn't mind if you created something and someone used it to torture people? I think a lot of the musicians upset over this don't care about the money; they're concerned about their songs, which they created to bring joy to people, being used to cause harm.

Also, it says nowhere in the article that the musicians are being paid for this at all. Typically, artists are offered money by people who want to use their music, and an artist can decline the offer if he doesn't want his music used in such a way. But it seems like the military is just using whatever songs they want, upsetting the artists, and they aren't paying anything. Sounds kind of illegal, actually.

But what's more important here, the fact that the music is being used without permission or the fact that these people are being tortured? Especially in Guantanamo Bay, where not everybody is an evil terrorist whose eyes glow red in the dark.

From the article:




He was tortured, but he apparently did nothing. If he did do something, they didn't have enough evidence to bust him for it, but they still put him through hell. I guess it is better to hurt a possibly innocent man than not hurt a possibly guilty man.

quite frankly, if my music would be used for torture purposes i would find that hilarious above all.