Your opinions on the death penalty

Interesting, my name is mentioned.

I support the death penalty because there are people who would be better of dead, but I much prefer forced labor camps.

The death penalty has a lot of flaws, a few big ones being it takes a long time before it can be instigated, it costs way too much money, and it's a waste of human life. With forced labor camps we can be sure to get actual work from prisoners.

I support the death penalty. Screw my country's leaders and it's pancy stupid Catholic leaders, they are too soft. Look, with death penalty, the crime rate would decrease and the amount of people in jail would be less.


FYI for those people: I'm Baptist.

I think they should ban TV from prisons and not give prisoners pudding after din dins. (Might save a few bucks)

I havent killed anyone so I guess ill say im Pro-Death penalty but to be honest my dear... I dont really give a damn!

I supported Death Penalty. It's the most just thing to do sometimes.
Somebody claimed the life of other, it's only fair if the person were also killed.

I understand that there are often times when it was all but a coincidence or other circumstances. But those who kills other and planned to do so, those that kills other people and enjoy it without guilt, our society don't need such asshole. How unfortunate that sometimes that kind of people leave unharmed at all.

well i guess in a way it help solves earth overpopulation problem.Nothing wrong with killing off evil.
I think France abolished the death penalty though.

I'm against the death penalty, even if it's just because I was raised to not support any form of violence or killing. Besides, sleeping in a 2-person cell with 11 prisoners for the rest of your life is -in my opinion- worse than death.

The problem with some prisoners is that some are beyond redemption and there is no chance that the judge is willing to endanger the public.

Kinda like kill one save a thousand thing like in Wanted.

Human will always do anything to survive given how hopeless the situation is or if they see a way out.Even killing,even if you will never think of it or are against it.

I agree, prison has everything you need, all provided for by the state, practically us, and they get everything they need!

I am pro death penalty as I believe people should pay on the equivilent level of their crime, especially if their crime has completly been proven, so as people have said murder should lead to that murderers death. Or even if a person has not killed someone, but has performed many another crimes these could also be classed enough to give them the death penalty.

For cases of murder, yes. To quote L. "An eye for an eye."

Thats Ogami's favorite phrase...

I'd say that the death penalty should be put on hold until a fool proof way of distinguishing innocent people from guilty one. And they really need to change the methods of execution, the older methods from the early modern period were pretty good. Screw the constitution, if you killed someone, you should die the same way. Even if there is a law against cruel and unusual punishment, just go with the firing squad, 1 .22 caliber bullet costs less than $0.02 and most of the time, you'll be dead before you even realize that the gun was fired. Electric chairs use enough energy to power a block for 10 mins just to kill 1 person who might survive. The lethal injections are expensive and can still fail.

Let's look at it this way. A horrible killer/rapist has killed many people both adults and children and he has admitted he loves doing. He get's sentenced to the death penalty and while the families of the victims are in mourning and want nothing more than justice served hundreds of people who don't know anyone involved come out and say "don't kill him!" Meanwhile Bernie Madolf steals a huge sum of money and a group of saints would like nothing more that to send him to hell and watch him rot. The death penalty is not the problem. Peoples values are just misguided.

Its the death penalty. Since the beginning of mankind, the death penalty has been

around. Whether by government regulation or vigilante justice, it has endured for

thousands of years. How do you feel about it. Recently I was in a debate over

whether or not it is a good thing. Regardless of the outcome of that debate I am

curious. Ladies, Gentlemen, and all Fakkuians; how do you feel about putting a

fellow man (as in the species, not gender based) to death for a crime punishable

by such.

Rules:

1. Don't undercut someone just to undercut them, if they have a valid opinion it

is due unto them.

2. If someone can properly rebuttal your statement with factual logic, accept

defeat with civility.

3. Just don't piss people off.

I'll raise the first topic of the thread: morality
This is the opinion of Bruce Fein, JD, Constitutional Lawyer and General Counsel to the Center for Law and Accountability, June 17, 2008.

"The crimes of rape, torture, treason, kidnapping, murder, larceny, and perjury pivot on a moral code that escapes apodictic [indisputably true] proof by expert testimony or otherwise. But communities would plunge into anarchy if they could not act on moral assumptions less certain than that the sun will rise in the east and set in the west. Abolitionists may contend that the death penalty is inherently immoral because governments should never take human life, no matter what the provocation. But that is an article of faith, not of fact. The death penalty honors human dignity by treating the defendant as a free moral actor able to control his own destiny for good or for ill; it does not treat him as an animal with no moral sense."

You obviously haven't spent much time on the serious discussion boards because the active people who usually discuss things don't accept defeat and all of them will result to twisting logic to any means, factual or not to get their point across. It is also worth note that some of these members who discuss here, will immediate tell you that your opinion is irrelevent for thier own purpose, which is why this board isn't a while lot different than IB other than the topic.

As far as criminal law goes, I'm totally against it, for it's an irreversible action and no court or justice system has ever been faultless. Moreover, one should never say never... it's too long a time.

While some people baulk at 'mere' decades of sentences handed out, these people are usually more concerned with appeasing their own sense of rage and living out their vindicative streak on a perceived "valid" target than actually wanting justice done.

Decades in prison is no joke and it *can* change a men... not necessarily for the better, but the above people simply have no real idea of how much things can change over such a long time.

The fact that prisons are overcrowded shouldn't be carte blanch for taking lives either... it's because our society is so corrupt, it's because the inane drug laws that put people - especially minorities - behind bars for crimes that endangered no-one, while at the same time ensuring the privatized prison system has enough warm bodies to turn a profit for a long while.

The only case I think death penalty could be permissible is in military law and only because in war you need strong and summary punitive measures to keep people straight, as the potential for abuse is so strong... which makes war all the more ghastly business, something I hope we could do without, but am not enough of a stupid, reality sheltered piecework to expect any time soon.

I'd like to appeal to your personal nature. What if someone were to take a loved one, let's say, your mother. And that someone carved her up like a turkey on Thanksgiving. The police find the man grinning over this poor lump of flesh, and a lump of flesh it is, because what he left is hardly a corpse. They take him away and he confesses, tells them all the gruesome details of his work, even goes so far to ask for their crime scene photos, just so he can have a momento. All this time he shows zero remorse, absolute soullessness. Are you telling me, that you want to let him keep breathing? Would you allow that?

I personally find it really depends on the case, and if you've found them to be 100% guilty.

I'm for it, if only for the reason that I'd rather take the death penalty than spend the rest of my life in prison. Even if I were not guilty.

I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't say that in some situations that I wouldn't wish death on someone, but in general I am not in favour of the death penalty. Killers work in the service of killers. If you kill someone, it is an act of murder, if you kill a murderer, it is still murder and by that definition the person commiting the killing must be put to death, in an endless cycle. At what point does someone draw the line between thier morality and being the last person alive. Even a murderer is precious to someone, everyone is someones son or daughter, someones father or mother, brother or sister, aunt, uncle, cousin.

Would they not want mercy for their family or friends. And if that person is put to death, would they not wish death on the person that did so. It is a very dangerous slope to be on, especially in todays world. Just look at the cases of cyber bullying and rape that have been poping up. It seems as if the aggressors in many cases are becoming the victim, and the real victim is becoming the target for speaking out.

As much as I do believe the population of this planet needs to be thinned out, I'd like to believe in the betterment of humanity, that I am an individual in a collective of our species, and killing any member of our species is a detrement to our survival.