Ar Tonelico 2

ah i see....

So lyner lose???

i can't believe it....

actually I like Lyner more but I really think Croix has it better... all his Reyvetails are of high status

i need to play Ar Tonelico 1, i cant understand what you guys are talking about.

anyway the Mir Route is interesting and the thing i most enjoyed in the AT2

Go for it dude....

Hey, who's the girl in the pic? I'm kinda in love with it because of Helsaga's avatar~

Mir also known as Jaqly

I'm more like mir...

LOL

Oh did anyone here get the loli ending? With Cocona...

never try that...

I also LOVE this game...and after watching Macross frontier i felt that it was so like Ar tonelico!! but i still need at least 2 more plays to complete my collection as you can see in my AV this is the only one i got...still going for luca and jaqcli

i finish luca first...

I got it, but haven't started it yet since I heard the translation ain't so good.

you should try it senpai... LOL

there will be a retranslation dead sempai-kun...

Dead sempai-kun..... I like the sound that. Well might as well play it now.

^
that right there, I've had the game for a while but my friend said there were a lot of problems glitches etc in it,(he currently is a game tester for NIS) I still plan to play it just I wanna be able to understand it all and not have it glitch on me.
(sry for necro'ing this)

I've been told there's a certain boss fight which can cause the game to freeze, i don't remember which one it is.

For those who haven't played Ar tonelico 2. By all means, wait for the retranslation project. The Raki glitch can be dealt with by a simple patch, so it's no big deal, but believe me, the mistakes in the localization were gross. Name-changing that made no sense whatsoever? Check. Changing the lines spoken that gives off impression that is totally different from how that character really is? Check. Cutting out lots of infos that are important to the story? Check. Plain awkward lines? Check.

I've played the game several times, and I'm sure of it. Ar tonelico 2 isn't getting the care it deserves (and also Ar tonelico fans continue yapping it's better than At2 yak yak) is exactly because of those mistakes made by NIS. Fans couldn't see the same big world they saw in the first game. They couldn't understand the reyvateils as deeply in At2, hence all the Luca hate, Cloche was boring etc. So yeah, wait for the retranslation project, or better, play it Japanese.

p/s: A complain to GUST. Seriously, put the translation of the hymmnos songs somewhere in game. People don't understand it, so they don't care about it. To them it's just some unique music and that's it. Little do they know what is conveyed through those songs. No matter how good the music is, the best thing about hymmnos is always the lyrics.

I agree to this.

As, I consider myself as a big fan of Mir err I mean Ar Tonelico, I took it as my duty to research on the lyrics of her songs, especially Harmonious. And really the lyrics had so much hidden meaning conveyed and it was all so touching. Gamers would appreciate it much more if it was subbed in game rather than using google.

I too don't agree to the statement "AT1 is better". What, some naive, silver haired moe blob is better than the Gothic, loli-like, tsundere who manifests everything I regard as awesome? I think not!

Also AT2 characters all have key roles, especially the reyvetails. I will begin from the most awesome to least.

1. Jakuri/Mir vs Shurelia- Mir goes to Metafalls with the risk of dying due to distance from the tower of Ar Tonelico. Then she joins with our heroes. She then makes a plan of saving the whole world Ar Ciel by encouraging Cocona which helps the creation of the plot for Ar Tonelico 3. So basically Ar Tonelico 3 was all thanks to Mir. Shurelia on the other hand, after sealing the only person that ever cared for her, decided to do absolutely nothing during that time of peace. After her tower was attacked she also did nothing while giving all the work to the hero. Later in the game, just as you thought she'd finally be useful she freaking dies and once again burden our hero with more stuff. After finally resurrecting her when the only job remaining is basically to find the main boss, only then does she help. After that, she resumes her job of doing nothing while her daughter (guess who) goes to the tower of Frelia because apparently the Origins are too stupid to do the work themselves.

2. Cloche vs Aurica- Cloche from her childhood had the job of uniting her people no matter how wrong it was due to the manipulation of some pedophile. Even after the event where Luca takes over her job, she still accepts the key role of uniting IPDs who literally magnifies her (and a partner reyvetail's) power by 100x (if you get that many ipds). Even in the end she still has the big role of governing her people along side her sister. Aurica on the other hand, as much as I like her, is a doormat. Lets face it, unless you choose her to sing the key songs, all she is, is a pretty face in the team. You can take her out from the plot and the story will still continue.

3. Luca vs Misha- I don't like Luca very much but I can symphatize with her character. In the beginning her role was only to cheer and sing for the hero but this quickly changed. In the middle you find her leading an army of peasants to revolt and captured the hearts of everyone. Also, even though the IPDs love Cloche, let's not forget who really made those IPDs get well. Misha on the other hand was also great. Unlike Aurica she had the key role of keeping Mir sealed with her unique song magic. To be honest I find her to have the most role in this game, even more than Shurelia.

In the end, both are good games but I just find Ar Tonelico 2 to have more substance. The cosmospheres were more in depht and the character's stories were more touching.

Ryouma, I'm curious about why would you choose to make it Cloche/Aurica and Luca/Misha when no matter how I think about it, it's Cloche/Misha and Aurica/Luca, same hymmnos voice and all. XD

Adding a bit on Luca. Remember that while Cloche unites the IPD, Luca played an important role in uniting the people as well. Sure, METHOD_METAFALICA/. concert convinces people that Cloche is really sincere, but just as she is, people wouldn't be as united especially Rakshaku residents. Luca helps a lot in that she's not a 'higher figure' to the people. Because she's one of the Maidens, Metafalica doesn't seem like some higher ups' mumbo jumbo. It represents real hope to them. Someone they understand (due to poverty etc) is actually a key part of the dream, that, I believe makes people feel closer to Metafalica than just some legend. Well, there's also the whole Therapy thing, and also EXEC_METAFALICA/. being exclusively hers.

Not to mention the whole "we dun have enough land rawr!" strife in At2 results from Shurelia's shenanigan (her shutting down Ar tonelico) forcing Frelia to drop a lot of the rims down. Very much understandable, Origin or no, maintaining the whole of Metafalss with sheer will is too ridiculous a task to force on someone. -___-|||

One thing I crazy love about At1 though. EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY/. Shit's awesome man. Top 3 of my fav hymmnos, I couldn't put ranks between those 3.