That is a Bloody Long Title, Isn't It?!

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leonard267 FAKKU Non-Writer
Author's Note #1: The title of the story, written by one Leonard267, is not "That is a Bloody Long Title, Isn't It?!". The title of the story, bloody long as it is, is:

The Not-So-Sacred Texts that Chronicle the Exploits of the Offspring of the Royals of the Land of the Not-Monkeys that is to the North, otherwise known as Lannomonthaistonor.


Not Really a Prologue:

Spoiler:
Here is an account of what happened before the story proper and what most likely happened before so many a story set in Planet Earth.

1. A clump of dirt, floating through space, slowly snowballed into a quite a large piece of rock by attracting other clumps of dirt, rock and boulders. Gravity and electrostatic forces were involved.

2. The large piece of rock was eventually so large that it assumed a spherical shape, able to retain a (relatively) thin layer of gas and liquids, a molten rock core that allows for the creation of a magnetic field.

3. After having gone through a bombardment of comets carrying the ingredients needed to make and sustain life, the large piece of rock around 12000 kilometres in diameter, made and sustained life. More comets and lighting bolts were involved in the process.

4. After life graced this very rock, hundreds of millions of years passed. The minute lifeforms, guided by the forces of natural selection, thrived, multiplied and eventually raised oxygen levels in the atmosphere to the extent that larger lifeforms now begun appearing in the tiny film of water covering that rock.

5. Among these lifeforms was a strange breed of anthropoid ape. They are hairless, gormless, easily wiped out by natural disasters, predators and physical force and almost went extinct, if not for their out-of-proportion brains!

6. And it was the descendants of these apes, who sailed out of the plains of some faraway place to settle at another faraway continent with impassable mountains to the north, fertile lands in the south, a mucky swamp sandwiched between both the north and south with an endless body of water around its flanks.

7. And number 7 is finally the number where we actually get to the bloody story!


Not A Prologue Either But Not As Blatantly Detached from the Plot as "Not Really a Prologue"

Spoiler:
It is more of an introduction which is really needed when you realise that one of the main actors of this story is a green, ten-headed anthropoid lifeform.

8. When hairless anthropoid apes, also known as humans, begun appearing on the face of this earth, they started off as hunter gatherers and scavengers, wandering from nowhere to nowhere, got themselves nearly wiped out as a result and then came up with civilisation as a means to combat the extinction-inducing mortality rates.

It so happens that the peoples of this story settled in a continent of much geographical diversity and begun building their hovels and shack towns to engage in cellular mitosis with occasional cellular meiosis when sex occurs, also known as establishing civilisations to live in, multiply and (not) prosper.

What follows after the above two paragraphs of gibberish are descriptions of the peoples who exist in this story and the geography of the lands they lived in:

The Monkeys:

While one would perceive the label "Monkey" as being offensive and many more would perceive that label being suggestive of animals that are actually monkeys, "The Monkeys" being human are very, very distantly related to monkeys. However, those who first came up with the name meant all the offence that could be packed into that word.

They are named thus because they are very hairy, with near bushels of hair growing at very inch of their bodies save their face, their palms and the soles of their feet.

The fact that they conduct semi-annual rituals that are performed by shamans dressed like monkeys and that they domesticate monkeys to serve their mainly agricultural needs does little to dissociate The Monkeys from actual monkeys.

To further reinforce the stereotype, they are by nature a boisterous, intelligent and physically resilient lot. Yet they are easily carried away, rash, resent authority and above all, annoying. Those who have been in contact with them would admire them for their wit and agility only to despise them very shortly after for being very annoying.

It might not surprise one to learn that their communities are very small due to their inability to organise themselves.

The Land of the Not-Monkeys that
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2deep4me bro :)

I only understand some paragraphs of it, but didn't really get the overall idea, sorry =D

it reminds me of this kind of literary nonsense even I couldn't manage to pull because my lack of understanding about English language

http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo/
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This very force originating from the heavens breathe life into others inanimate particles by changing them from simple to complex.


Is there a typo there in bold part? Also, “breathe” should be “breathes.”

This is a process that is much more miraculous than the transition from life to non-life, unless one would think that dying after living for 80 years or getting stabbed to death, is anything but not mundane.


Delete the commas.

Some of these proto-lifeforms grew much, much bigger because of conditions conducive to its growth like the exponential increase of relatively unstable oxygen in the atmosphere in terms of geographical time.


“Its” should be “their.”

It’s also kinda confusing. Is the instability of the oxygen growing or is the oxygen growing thereby decreasing the instability?

For those microorganisms that became larger and bigger, one shall now name that 'organisms' instead of 'macroorganisms'.


“Became” should be “become.” “That” should be “them.” Also there’s one big problem with this sentence. You tell us to stop calling them macrooragnisms, but you never told us they were called that to begin with.

Despite their relative largeness, they are still bound to these fluxes where the invisible hand of the environment crafts them, shapes them, breathes diversity into them.


Should be an “and” before “breathes.”

Those anthropoid apes that are hairy are derogatorily called 'monkeys', and they settled in somewhere between the North and the South. Those that are not hairy settled in the North and the South were responsible for calling their hairier cousins 'monkeys', and called themselves 'not-monkeys'. quote]

It’s technically right as is, but I think it would read better if you added “who” after “were” and deleted the “and” and the comma before it. Also, it seems weird to me that the race that sees itself as superior would derive their own name from one that was meant to be derogatory for a race they see as inferior. I also don’t understand why the not-monkeys have split up and live with the monkeys separating them. You’d think they’d stick together.

[quote]To facilitate communication, those from the North and the South they eventually came up with a name to name their land.


Delete “they” and change “name to name their land” to “name for their land.” I guess the way you have it right now is technically correct, but its redundant.

Those that lived in the land of the not-Monkeys that is to the North, called their land, "Land of the Not-Monkeys that is to the North",


Delete the first comma in there. Same for the sentence that follows. Take out the comma in between South and called.

Those hairy inhabitants that lived in the land of the monkeys, have their land called "The Land of the Monkeys", nothing short of that.


Who calls their land that? The monkeys or the not-monkeys?

It must be added that their idea of 'short' is anything but! It also must be added that the layman would call these anthropoid apes, hairy or not, humans.


I got that. There was no need for you to point it out, especially the part about the not-so-short short hand names. I think there are definitely times when you want to call attention to what you do, but it just didn’t work for me here. I was amused at first when I read the names but having you tell me about it in the following paragraph kinda killed it.

Without a system of rigorous empirical and deductive methods to trace events of the past or predict the future, otherwise known as science, those living in Lannomothaistonor, Lannomothaistosou and the Land of Monkeys can't appreciate the events that took hundreds of millions to occur.


Delete the first comma. I think there should be “of years” after millions.

Thus they are so easily duped and manipulated by yet another race of hairless anthropoid apes that lived in the mountainous Far North, who incidentally have the means to do so.


Another comma here you don’t need.

They are a race that is technologically advanced but their numbers are small due to epidemics, war and other crises that so plagued civilisation.


“Civilisation” is misspelled. The s should be a z.

The four peoples lived together in relative harmony, if being isolated for long periods of time from each other, resorting to occasion violence and displays of technological superiority, can be considered as that. That is until, the Gods became aware that the people of Lannomothaistosou are behaving in a way that is not to their liking.


You can delete all of the commas here. I think “are” should be “were.”

I don’t know if you’ve read Mibu’s untitled story, but you did the same thing that he did with his prologue. There’s no actual storytelling. It’s just background and exposition. Essentially, you’re starting off you story with one big info dump. That’s probably gonna turn a lot of people off.

This was interesting to read, but I don’t understand how most of this could have an impact on the story. The only part I could really see becoming relevant is at the end where you go over the relationships between the different societies.

It’s also not clear to me why you’re calling this the Not Prologue.
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leonard267 FAKKU Non-Writer
d(^_^)(^_^)d wrote...
All the above



Allow me to reply to some of your remarks:

Oxygen is relatively unstable compared to other molecules and more reactive. Don't worry, if oxygen can exist, it is stable enough.

I use UK English which is quite troubling. I am very sorry.

I am afraid I have to leave some of your questions unanswered, like who named the Monkeys, "Monkeys", although I think they won't be happy being called "Monkeys".

As for calling it "Not the Prologue", what you see is what you get. (And yes I have read Mibu's prologue with that in mind!) You can read Note from the Author #2 as to why I did that.

I don't think Mibuchiha started with presenting information about his universe to us but I intend not to do any story telling until I establish my universe properly and that will mean lines of exposition. I suppose that will be too much for the reader?

Personally, the problem with I have with some stories is that I have no idea what is the setting of the story. I would really like it if someone gave me some kind of exposition at the beginning of the story.

You are essentially right though. It appears that the prologue only made sense to me. I will follow up with something more easily understood sometime in the future while leaving the prologue where it is.
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I use UK English which is quite troubling. I am very sorry.


Oh. I don't really know how much that effects your writing. Because I'm lazy, in the future I will still bother to point out all of the things that I think are wrong and you can just have fun shifting through them and figuring which ones are actually relevant to you.

I don't think Mibuchiha started with presenting information about his universe to us but I intend not to do any story telling until I establish my universe properly and that will mean lines of exposition. I suppose that will be too much for the reader?


Yeah. It's fine to give us a little something in the beginning to go on, but most people don't like when the first few pages or whatever are all worldbuilding. Authors usually sprinkle this stuff throughout the story so it's not overwhelming. If you've deemed it necessary that readers know about the origins of life on this world, then why not include a character who's interested in that stuff? A historian or a scientist perhaps? Off the top of my head, that'd be the easiest option to present all this to the reader without it seeming forced. Then at the same time, you're also getting to know this character better in a way.

I don't think Mibuchiha started with presenting information about his universe to us


True, but he still did the same thing. But where you gave background on the world, he gave background on the story.

As for calling it "Not the Prologue", what you see is what you get. (And yes I have read Mibu's prologue with that in mind!) You can read Note from the Author #2 as to why I did that.


HOW'S THAT FOR A PROLOGUE EH? NOW YOU UNDERSTAND HOW IT FEELS LIKE TO READ LINES UPON LINES OF NONSENSE THAT MAKE NO SENSE ONLY TO GET TO THE BLOODY POINT AT THE BLOODY END!


So you did this as a way to lampoon prologues which you don't like? Keeping the above quote in mind, it does make more sense, but that too is a problem. I don't think you should have had to step in and tell me stuff about your story. If I couldn't get that by myself, then there's probably a better way to accomplish what you're trying to do.

Personally, the problem with I have with some stories is that I have no idea what is the setting of the story. I would really like it if someone gave me some kind of exposition at the beginning of the story.


That doesn't really bother me. For me, if there's enough to get a feeling of what the world is like in the beginning and the author goes in with more details later, that's fine.
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Xenon FAKKU Writer
d(^_^)(^_^)d wrote...
Oh. I don't really know how much that effects your writing. Because I'm lazy, in the future I will still bother to point out all of the things that I think are wrong and you can just have fun shifting through them and figuring which ones are actually relevant to you.


It's really not that difficult to understand the so dubbed "Oxford spelling." Essentially, any time you would use a "z" for the end of a word typically ending in "ize" like "civilize" or "cauterize" it will be an "s" in UK spelling, making the forms with an "s" appropriate spellings. So, it would turn into "civilise" or "civilisation," and "cauterise."

Also, words that end in a simple "or" such as in "color," "armor," or "terror" add a "u" after the "o" in UK spelling, also making the forms with an "our" endings appropriate spellings. So, it would turn into "colour," "armour," or "terrour."

There may be other exceptions that I'm not recalling off the top of my head.
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leonard267 FAKKU Non-Writer
Xenon wrote...
d(^_^)(^_^)d wrote...
Oh. I don't really know how much that effects your writing. Because I'm lazy, in the future I will still bother to point out all of the things that I think are wrong and you can just have fun shifting through them and figuring which ones are actually relevant to you.


It's really not that difficult to understand. Essentially, any time you would use a "z" for the end of a word typically ending in "ize" like "civilize" or "cauterize" it will be an "s" in UK spelling, making the forms with an "s" appropriate spellings. So, it would turn into "civilise" or "civilisation," and "cauterise."

Also, words that end in a simple "or" such as in "color," "armor," or "terror" add a "u" after the "o" in UK spelling, also making the forms with an "our" endings appropriate spellings. So, it would turn into "colour," "armour," or "terrour."

There may be other exceptions that I'm not recalling off the top of my head.


Terror is still terror in UK English. Edit: I stand corrected. I learn something new everyday!

However, it makes little difference I think. The differences in pronunciation and writing are so trivial that it does not affect communication much. I live in a former British colony and writing in UK English is more of a habit.

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d(^_^)(^_^)d wrote...
All of the above (again).


Your remarks are very useful. I will keep them in mind. It is a bit jarring to read what I have written, I'd admit. I think that is because when it comes to writing, I refuse to do a proper narrative.
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Xenon wrote...

It's really not that difficult to understand the so dubbed "Oxford spelling." Essentially, any time you would use a "z" for the end of a word typically ending in "ize" like "civilize" or "cauterize" it will be an "s" in UK spelling, making the forms with an "s" appropriate spellings. So, it would turn into "civilise" or "civilisation," and "cauterise."

There are a couple other exceptions to spelling and this chart makes a nice comparison to point those out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_spelling#Language_tag_comparison


Oh, I didn't know it was just a spelling thing. In that case, it isn't that bad I guess.
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Xenon FAKKU Writer
leonard267 wrote...
Terror is still terror in UK English.

However, it makes little difference I think. The differences in pronunciation and writing are so trivial that it does not affect communication much. I live in a former British colony and writing in UK English is more of a habit.


It may have been dropped in time, but it's an acceptable spelling of the word:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Terrour

There are a couple other exceptions to spelling and this chart makes a nice comparison to point those out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_spelling#Language_tag_comparison

You guys both respond instantly haha, I was still editing my post to contain all relevant material while researching to make sure I was accurate.
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leonard267 FAKKU Non-Writer
Well, I am redoing the prologue in an act of cowardice but for those who feel that they have too much time to waste here is the original prologue.

Not the Prologue:

(Before one continues to the text proper, one must be reminded that most of what is written below bears little relation to the plot and is completely nonsense.)

Spoiler:
Streaks of lightning clove the sky, followed by blasts of thunder and rocks torn asunder from the sheer force that is produced by charged ions created by the friction between particles in the sky, like water and dust for instance. This very force originating from the heavens breathe life into inanimate particles by changing them from simple to complex.

The transition from non-life to life occurs when the particles begin to interact with the environment they are in and form reproductive cycles. These particles then become proto-lifeforms. They would take in other molecules and pass these molecules out, replicate themselves and die off. This is a process that is much more miraculous than the transition from life to non-life, unless one would think that dying after living for 80 years or getting stabbed to death is anything but not mundane.

Some of these proto-lifeforms grew much, much bigger because of conditions conducive to its growth like the exponential increase of relatively unstable oxygen in the atmosphere in terms of geographical time. In the course of hundreds of millions of years, one would cease to name them as proto-lifeforms but call them microorganisms that could, in the most ideal scenario, form a symbiotic relationship with your body or potentially eat your insides and kill you slowly.

These microorganisms would continue to replicate and get themselves killed. Some would grow ever the more larger and complex while some would remain the same, while some would become simpler. It is all dependent on the environment they reside in, for indeed, it is the whims of the environment that shapes and moulds them.

For those microorganisms that became larger and bigger, one shall now name that 'organisms' instead of 'macroorganisms'. Despite their relative largeness, they are still bound to these fluxes where the invisible hand of the environment crafts them, shapes them, breathes diversity into them.

And then, through the passage of time, over the course of millions of years (as opposed to hundreds of millions of years), intelligent anthropoid apes, begun appearing on the surface, products of that invisible hand.

Those anthropoid apes that are hairy are derogatorily called 'monkeys' and they settled in somewhere between the North and the South. Those that are not hairy settled in the North and the South were responsible for calling their hairier cousins 'monkeys' and called themselves 'not-monkeys'.

To facilitate communication, those from the North and the South they eventually came up with a name to name their land. Those that lived in the land of the not-Monkeys that is to the North called their land "Land of the Not-Monkeys that is to the North" or Lannomonthaistonor for short.

Those that lived in the land of the not-monkeys that is to the South called their land "Land of the Not-Monkeys that is to the South" or Lannomonthaistosou for short.

Those hairy inhabitants that lived in the land of the monkeys, have their land called "The Land of the Monkeys", nothing short of that.

It must be added that their idea of 'short' is anything but! It also must be added that the layman would call these anthropoid apes, hairy or not, humans.

Without a system of rigorous empirical and deductive methods to trace events of the past or predict the future, also known as modern science, those living in Lannomothaistonor, Lannomothaistosou and the Land of Monkeys can't appreciate the events that took hundreds of millions of years to occur. Thus they are so easily duped and manipulated by yet another race of hairless anthropoid apes that lived in the mountainous Far North who incidentally have the access to modern science.

These mountain people are called 'Gods' by those who do not live in those mountains. They are a race that is technologically advanced but their numbers are small due to epidemics, war and other crises that so plagued civilisation. They demand offerings from time to time and manage to do so through coercion. That could mean firing a gun or dressing up like an idiot and perform magic tricks or some other display of technology that primitives call magic.

The four peoples lived together in relative harmony, if being isolated for long periods of time from each other, resorting to occasion violence and displays of technological superiority, can be considered as that. That is until, the Gods became aware that the people of Lannomothaistosou are behaving in a way that is not to their liking.


End of the Not The Prologue.

Author's Note #2: Most of this note will be placed in a spoiler. It consists of the author's whining and moaning and gloating. Readers are advised not to click the spoiler unless they wish to set their eyes on lines of capital letters, so written to give the impression that the author is displaying emotions of anger.

Spoiler:
HOW'S THAT FOR A PROLOGUE EH? NOW YOU UNDERSTAND HOW IT FEELS LIKE TO READ LINES UPON LINES OF NONSENSE THAT MAKE NO SENSE ONLY TO GET TO THE BLOODY POINT AT THE BLOODY END!

AND AS A REWARD, FEAST YOUR EYES TO THIS! I WAGER THIS IS SOMETHING YOU LIKE! https://www.fakku.net/viewtopic.php?t=98170 (Livided, I am so sorry.)

IS A LONG AND WINDING PROLOGUE THAT DETAILS ABIOGENESIS, THE RISE OF MULTI-CELLULAR LIFE AND THE ASCENT OF MAN, TOO MUCH IS ASK FOR AS BACKGROUND MATERIAL?! HUH! HUUUUUH!
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Well, I am redoing the prologue in an act of cowardice


Better than the alternative: ritual suicide via carving a sword through your torso.
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I find this much easier to understand than the previous one, nice job =)