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A.I. wrote...
What I meant with Fakku original content is that it's not something licensed from Wani or other publisher in japan but an original Fakku published series. Since that would cover pretty much all western artists in the future unless some post their work here but are still indie.
Also, MLP is a cartoon so I think it would make more sense to either black list cartoon related stuff. A japanese artists can still draw MLP in typical moe style too though so I don't know how you can blacklist something that would prevent you from ever see MLP ever. Upon checking all MLP seems to be from Doxy, why not blacklist Doxy for example then? or the tag for the series https://www.fakku.net/series/my-little-pony
And then what's japanese art style? how would Fakku decide what's clearly japanese style and what's not? with japanese style you mean the typical moe style? As I said even in japan there are no guidelines for style, there's so much variety...
If doujins are coming back, translated in English and so on, that you can say "Fakku Exclusive in English" thing. For the western artists also something like that, different name?
Anyway, that is not what need to be discussed by now.
MLP is a example. there are far many other stuff that I want mute.
As for the Japanese style: There are no real guidlines, as you already said. But a Manga is still a Manga and not a Manwha, right?
There are some certain aspects that make it the unique Japanese style.
Like the eyes, the fetish in there, the way the panel are (right to left) and many on.
You can choose that for say thats is the Japanese Style, that is Western-Style (Name to be changed), that is Random style (or whatever).
Also because some people are still thinking that tag-ban/muting is a bad idea, here a small list what I throw out at a different site:
female:bestiality, female:guro, male:dog, male:horse, female:netorare
male:yaoi, parody:my little pony friendship is magic, male:crossdressing, male:males only
> Sure, those a bit extreme stuff, but I still want to avoid certain stuff here as well.
A.I. wrote...
in the search bar you can already filter stuff, you can search for multiple tags with "+" and exclude others with "-" ex: +oppai +vanilla -ntr
it's true it would be better if it had an interface though.
Technically the tag isn't wrong, but maybe it's true there's some confusion with the tag. How would you suggest to tag works by non-japanese artists?
What if there's a tag for authors working directly with Fakku? since that's basically what the western tag means right now. Maybe a tag for original Fakku content?
Nah, this is maybe for the search but not when I'm browing through the magazine section.
I'd decleare western-style. Anything that is not japanese style, often used by western artist. You could name it differently like in a way no one would be offeneded by it.
So when even Japanese artists draw something out of their way (like MLP or what else) you can tag it with that certain "western-style"tag.
I wouldn't say its fakku content since it isn't much?
Sure yes, you can read it here and all but at the first place its xyz-artist content and its not made for fakku exklusive.
Since so far, doujins are for while gone here, we don't need series tag for doujins right now. With that, we can also mute BL/Yayoi later too (in all respect, I have ZERO interets in that).
A.I. wrote...
But the thing is, the western tag doesn't mean "western style" , it just means the author isn't japanese...an author doesn't choose where he was born but he can choose to draw "oppai"
Than the tag definition is wrong.
Anyway, we need a filter system.
A.I. wrote...
I'm one of the western artists on the site. I can understand where you are coming from since as a reader I've also experienced the feeling that western manga seems to be always of poor quality, or a weird mix with cartoon network styles. However, isn't it to want to blacklist the entire western tag just descrimination? I think that's what the other people have been trying to say here. It's not like there's a style you get for being born in japan and a different style for being born in another part of the world. Manga just means comic in japan, even though they have their own comic culture and inspire each other, manga there doesn't follow any guidelines at all, you have Very different art styles, even in hentai.
I think letting people blacklist the western tag would just contribute to the continuation of the stigma against non japanese artists and also really unfair, since in reality the western tag just means the artist isn't Japanese. And allowing people blacklisting it means that no matter how good a western artist is, some people won't give him a chance because he isn't Japanese.
Or is there a more specific reason you want to block the western tag? Is there a specific artist? You could always just block that artist instead, that I guess I can understand.
For me its like that:
I don't have anything for western (non-Japanese) artist. Look at pixiv, I found many non Japanese artist and I like their art. One example is "Fuya" or "Okitakun" (sound Japanese, but aren't).
Its not about the where the artist is born or where he/she actually is right now - its the style that I care about. If a Japanese artist would draw western adult/comic I would also probably don't like it because it doesn't fit my taste.
Also since western is already a tag here, so I assume I can filter that out like any other tag.
Its just about sort out what I want to see and what not.
If I gett bored I still can remove those mute function (if ever).
This also works for Japanese artists:
I think there are many people who dislike oppai/large breast and prefer flat chest or the other way around.
Is this still a discrimination for the artist? No. Just your personal taste.
Speaking to myself I would use to the art of the artist.
This thread is too focused about western and non-western.
My original idea is that this fakku.net webpage has a function for their subs, that you can mute stuff you just don't want to see. Thats all.
I don't think if people would ban a certain artist for xyz-reason.
If yes, maybe the artist is wrong and maybe the artist should change. A 100% block won't happen.
Kcaz64 wrote...
I've always thought systems like this really don't work in anyone's interest except those who are super hardcore against a specific tag or arist, and those people are the minority. I know there are tags I used to not be into at all, but eventually I got suckered in by a manga that had art I really liked or something and I grew to see the appeal of the tag. If I had the ability to hide that tag that never would have happened and I'd be missing out on something I've grown to enjoy.
It also hurts the website. Fakku wants to have all the works here shown to a wide audience. Being able to guarantee a bigger number of potential viewers helps when trying to get new people on board. Why would an artist who primarily makes NTR works want to have their work on fakku if 40% of the people there block the tag and will never see their work in any capacity?
Basically my point is it's not as cut and dry of an issue as one might think. And these issues are before even bringing up the cost of implementing this type of system.
No. Sadpanda or any other sites that use a tag system to mute or sort out is doing actually fine.
Let me write down a example since many of you saying it hurts the artist:
You are in your car or somewhere listen to radio. You hear a song and you don't like it. You have the option to skip the song or hear your favorite song.
You'll skip it to your favorite song.
Its like here. Why should I bother with any NTR story, when I despise the fact it exists? Since I can't change the fact that NTR is here - there is only one option for me: Mute/ignore.
Heck, even one of my favorute Mangaka Takeda Hiromutsu is drawing lately only NTR and even those I ignore.
I don't why its so bad when I just don't want see certain things.
Its better compared I go to the release, read the tag/artist name and say: "I don't like that" in the comments, right?
Or should we all now feel bad, when we skip a song/skip a ero manga because we don't like it?
Sure, you can try out new stuff - but because "veterans" know what they like, just let them be.
Fakku can show/release everything they want. But even if I buy a Japan Ero Manga Tankubon, and I see there is NTR story/artist I don't like - I skip it. Thats it. I just want a filter here. Nothing else.
(NTR is only a example [but yeah I dislike NTR])
Misaki_Chi wrote...
Also whether or not a person pays means nothing on posting in the forums since the forums are free to all. I just post my personal opinions much like you do. So take whatever I say with a grain of salt.
Maybe you need to chill a bit since you seem one of those western artist I dislike been shown here?
With beeing paid I mean I have this subs-feed monthly. Not forum wise.
Anyway it's my personal opinion, if you think thats harsh, unfair, bad comment, and so on, so be it.
Maybe that what fakku wants to do. Sure why not. It's also nice for the artist. But sadly I just don't like the different style.
It's not a real insult if I just don't want to see western artist do their own design. No, but personaly speaking I just don't like much any other comic adult content like the Japanese style.
I have seen a lot of western stuff and most of them were bad. So I went with mute/ignore them since they are just not my taste.
Also I never said they are not worth of not being on fakku.
Fakku is for me more a Japanese Style themed adult comic website (which they also have that books and magazines right now). Even if Fakku wants to change that (which is okay if they want to support different artists) I want also a working system where I can mute certain things, exp. artist or tags.
PS:
Doxy has some nice stuff (sometimes) but all uploaded here are 0 my taste.
Edit:
Also when a Japanese suddenly draws MLP or whatever kind of western cartoon even in Japanese style, I won't like it.
Also why so harsh on being that? I pay here a good amount of money and I think I can choose what I want and what I don't want. Since I think a system where I could select what I want to buy and what not wouldn't work here, I should have at least a mute function.
Its not about artists, its also about tags:
I hate NTR and I don't like guro at all - why should I still see them?
Thats all.
Simply a system that let me mute certain tags/artist. I mean, we already have a follow/favorite thing here going.
It's not a real insult if I just don't want to see western artist do their own design. No, but personaly speaking I just don't like much any other comic adult content like the Japanese style.
I have seen a lot of western stuff and most of them were bad. So I went with mute/ignore them since they are just not my taste.
Also I never said they are not worth of not being on fakku.
Fakku is for me more a Japanese Style themed adult comic website (which they also have that books and magazines right now). Even if Fakku wants to change that (which is okay if they want to support different artists) I want also a working system where I can mute certain things, exp. artist or tags.
PS:
Doxy has some nice stuff (sometimes) but all uploaded here are 0 my taste.
Edit:
Also when a Japanese suddenly draws MLP or whatever kind of western cartoon even in Japanese style, I won't like it.
Also why so harsh on being that? I pay here a good amount of money and I think I can choose what I want and what I don't want. Since I think a system where I could select what I want to buy and what not wouldn't work here, I should have at least a mute function.
Its not about artists, its also about tags:
I hate NTR and I don't like guro at all - why should I still see them?
Thats all.
Simply a system that let me mute certain tags/artist. I mean, we already have a follow/favorite thing here going.
Hello,
I searched for a topic in this forum but couldn't find something similar like that - so I I will open a new one.
Wouldn't it be nice to have a system that you can actually block certain tags, or artist?
Like for exmaple the artist "doxy". Personaly speaking I don't like this artist style at all and don't want to see any content from him in the feature since they don't fit my taste (also personaly I think western cartonist don't have much a place here if the style isn't even like the one of Japanese - but thats only personally).
That would go for tags as well. Don't like oppai? - mute and so on.
It would be nice to have some sort of such system in the near future of this website. Since the tastes are very different, so the content, I can at least view what I want to see and mute what I dislike.
I searched for a topic in this forum but couldn't find something similar like that - so I I will open a new one.
Wouldn't it be nice to have a system that you can actually block certain tags, or artist?
Like for exmaple the artist "doxy". Personaly speaking I don't like this artist style at all and don't want to see any content from him in the feature since they don't fit my taste (also personaly I think western cartonist don't have much a place here if the style isn't even like the one of Japanese - but thats only personally).
That would go for tags as well. Don't like oppai? - mute and so on.
It would be nice to have some sort of such system in the near future of this website. Since the tastes are very different, so the content, I can at least view what I want to see and mute what I dislike.