Fate/stay night - WHAT IF we really have a Holy Grail War?

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Lurker3173 wrote...


With this in mind, I'll use the said site to make one: Jose Rizal

Strength:E
Endurance:C
Agility:C+
Mana:C+++
Luck:C++



From what I can see, your servant is more or less the stay behind the scenes caster type. I would say that the Parameters should be changed a bit. Mana can go up to B+ in my opinion. Those '+' multipliers are very vague but generally speaking, higher Rank is better because those multipliers only work in certain situations. Agility shouldn't need multipliers as he doesn't fight himself. Luck is a vague Parameter. It like divine will. Was he protected from a lot of disasters or bad fate in his life? If he was, his Luck would most like be more or less C or B. Multipliers are not needed here. Unless you have a skill that does something to your Luck like divinity, then it wouldn't have a multiplier. Luck works in an odd way.


Class Skills:
Item Creation:A
Territory Creation:A

Personal Skills:
Eye for Art
Surgical Procedure
Charisma: A


I think you should specify with Item Creation. Item Creation is a skill that allows creation of powerful magic artifacts. This skill might be tied to the Caster class but not all Casters have this skill. One example is Kitsune Caster from Fate/EXTRA.

Territory Creation is fine, as your Servant is the Leader of the Revolution of Philippines, right?

Charisma is fine but I think Rank B is more than enough. Rank B is enough to lead a country. Rank A is more like a curse rather than actual Charisma. For mortals, Ranks B is like the highest you can achieve in a lifetime.


Noble Phantasm:
Ideal Curse - A curse in which traps anyone that is in the territory and "fulfill" their desires. Although it says fulfill, it's actually an illusion that satisfies anyone's regrets or desires. As long as the user knows who it is that is inside, he can project said illusion to demoralize and drain their prana.

Fated Pen - An item that lets a civilian be a heroic spirit by drawing out a willing soul. Aside from the default capability of casters summoning other heroes and hordes of monsters, this item has a time limit as anyone who becomes a heroic spirit by the said item will perish the moment the supplied prana is cut. The spirit vanishes on the spot and it cannot return to the body. Simply said, this items practically writes any willing soul into an heroic spirit status but it cannot be used to more than 2 souls as it drains way too much prana keeping more. Also, depending on one's will, he/she can be as strong as a saber class or as weak as a caster class. Although they're turned into heroic spirits, the battle experience can never be compared to the ones that has their own legend.


Interesting Noble Phantasms, you got it right over here~ Nothing to add for this. ^_^
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can't really be specific about the item creation stuff since he knows more than just art, medicine, and writing. the guy traveled to many places so he might have encountered documents or heard rumors that connects to magic during his lifetime.

during the the start of the revolution, he really was a stay behind with just writing and stuff like that. i made it C+++ seeing as the time of his existence, magic wasn't a fad or there are bits of information about it. plus, he leaned more into science than magic so gathering mana for him should be a little challenge for his master. As for his Agility, i put it like that since he should be capable of running away at least. Given that he has less spells to use, putting it in E or below would make him a sitting duck.
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Lurker3173 wrote...
can't really be specific about the item creation stuff since he knows more than just art, medicine, and writing. the guy traveled to many places so he might have encountered documents or heard rumors that connects to magic during his lifetime.

during the the start of the revolution, he really was a stay behind with just writing and stuff like that. i made it C+++ seeing as the time of his existence, magic wasn't a fad or there are bits of information about it. plus, he leaned more into science than magic so gathering mana for him should be a little challenge for his master. As for his Agility, i put it like that since he should be capable of running away at least. Given that he has less spells to use, putting it in E or below would make him a sitting duck.



Well, Mana is I think the servant's personal reserves so it's alright to fool around with that.

Territory Creation is the servant's ability to create a Workshop, but I think you got that right. And Damien's right about the Charisma thing.

And this is a personal thing, but do you think you can add the rank and type for each of his Noble Phantasms? Type: as in, support, anti-unit, army, fortress, world...
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Lurker3173 wrote...
can't really be specific about the item creation stuff since he knows more than just art, medicine, and writing. the guy traveled to many places so he might have encountered documents or heard rumors that connects to magic during his lifetime.

during the the start of the revolution, he really was a stay behind with just writing and stuff like that. i made it C+++ seeing as the time of his existence, magic wasn't a fad or there are bits of information about it. plus, he leaned more into science than magic so gathering mana for him should be a little challenge for his master. As for his Agility, i put it like that since he should be capable of running away at least. Given that he has less spells to use, putting it in E or below would make him a sitting duck.


I have question about the second NP anyway. Does the NP change normal human into a hero? Or the people chosen here should had a special criteria? As if it is random, it does not provide u any assurance that the person won't betray u.

As u mention they must be "willing" so in this case, it all fall to luck.^^
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casiopao wrote...
Lurker3173 wrote...
can't really be specific about the item creation stuff since he knows more than just art, medicine, and writing. the guy traveled to many places so he might have encountered documents or heard rumors that connects to magic during his lifetime.

during the the start of the revolution, he really was a stay behind with just writing and stuff like that. i made it C+++ seeing as the time of his existence, magic wasn't a fad or there are bits of information about it. plus, he leaned more into science than magic so gathering mana for him should be a little challenge for his master. As for his Agility, i put it like that since he should be capable of running away at least. Given that he has less spells to use, putting it in E or below would make him a sitting duck.


I have question about the second NP anyway. Does the NP change normal human into a hero? Or the people chosen here should had a special criteria? As if it is random, it does not provide u any assurance that the person won't betray u.

As u mention they must be "willing" so in this case, it all fall to luck.^^


It turns any normies into heroes. Their strength depends on how bad they wanna live and I did mention that the transformed subject dies on the spot if there's no more prana supplied to him/her. Even if they tried, all the caster needs to do is to cancel the supply.

K.Epiren wrote...

Well, Mana is I think the servant's personal reserves so it's alright to fool around with that.

Territory Creation is the servant's ability to create a Workshop, but I think you got that right. And Damien's right about the Charisma thing.

And this is a personal thing, but do you think you can add the rank and type for each of his Noble Phantasms? Type: as in, support, anti-unit, army, fortress, world...


will look on the details concerning rank and type for the NPs. Looking at what you wrote, the 1st one might be an anti-unit/army given that the territory governs the effect. As for the 2nd one, I'm thinking of it as support. It makes normies to heroes and cannot use it on more than two unless you have a whole city as your source of prana. item creation and surgical procedure would be used for support so long as that normie-turned-hero is alive.
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Cinia Pacifica Ojou-sama Writer
Lurker3173 wrote...
It turns any normies into heroes.


Now that's interesting.
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Cinia Pacifica wrote...
Lurker3173 wrote...
It turns any normies into heroes.


Now that's interesting.


there are conditions on before and after. you gotta be an influential master to be able to fully maximize his NP
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Lurker3173 wrote...
Cinia Pacifica wrote...
Lurker3173 wrote...
It turns any normies into heroes.


Now that's interesting.


there are conditions on before and after. you gotta be an influential master to be able to fully maximize his NP


I can see that skill being abused lol.^^ As here u can choose some normies to be the hero for Joze NP.

If Joze find himself with a bad master, i can see many normies will not be saved here.^^(Anyway what is the allignment of Joze? As by knowing their allignment, we can see its personality more.)
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casiopao wrote...
Lurker3173 wrote...
Cinia Pacifica wrote...
Lurker3173 wrote...
It turns any normies into heroes.


Now that's interesting.


there are conditions on before and after. you gotta be an influential master to be able to fully maximize his NP


I can see that skill being abused lol.^^ As here u can choose some normies to be the hero for Joze NP.

If Joze find himself with a bad master, i can see many normies will not be saved here.^^(Anyway what is the allignment of Joze? As by knowing their allignment, we can see its personality more.)


it could but his Mana stats prevents that C+++(120) can't really make a gathering of HS like what Alexander can do. They need to be willing too and can't just grab someone random. I kinda feel that his 2nd NP is a lot more restricted than most of the NPs ive seen so far.

His alignment is good and lawful - he fought for the country through pen and virtue. if ever he finds himself a bad master then.. yeah. you'd see him with a HS and a normie-turned-HS walking together but without a master.
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Damienthedevil wrote...
Black Jesus JC wrote...
Damienthedevil wrote...
You need to be a little more specific.


I just made it tied to Mana,and deleted the opponent healing after phantasm part.


Good job. Now we just need to add some class skills and some personal skills and your Caster is complete!

Refer here. I suggest you make up one or two skills by yourself but use that as a guide.


Would knowing multiple languages be fit for a personal skill? From what i'm reading its the only thing standing out to me

And would item creation and territory creation work with Bathrosy backround?Cause i'm not sure whether items or territory's she would create
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Question: Medusa, though a monster, was a hero in the grail war. CAN Fenrir be one? though fenrir is the son of loki, he has potential as a berserker class given we go andro at his physique
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Lurker3173 wrote...
Question: Medusa, though a monster, was a hero in the grail war. CAN Fenrir be one? though fenrir is the son of loki, he has potential as a berserker class given we go andro at his physique


I would say no. Fenrir is a true monster that was born Half-God Half-Monster. There is no way he could be a Hero or Anti-Hero of any sort. Medusa was born Demigod, meaning she was Half mortal. She was only turned into a monster due to Athena's curse.

Unless you could find something that could suggest that he is a part mortal then it's out of the question.
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Damienthedevil wrote...
Lurker3173 wrote...
Question: Medusa, though a monster, was a hero in the grail war. CAN Fenrir be one? though fenrir is the son of loki, he has potential as a berserker class given we go andro at his physique


I would say no. Fenrir is a true monster that was born Half-God Half-Monster. There is no way he could be a Hero or Anti-Hero of any sort. Medusa was born Demigod, meaning she was Half mortal. She was only turned into a monster due to Athena's curse.

Unless you could find something that could suggest that he is a part mortal then it's out of the question.


This

In no literature of any sort was Fenrir portrayed having any semblance of humanity or being a mortal. Except those of anime and games.
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Has anyone thought of, or have done, a character page for H.P. Lovecraft? We have a Shakespeare Caster in canon, after all and i was wondering...
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So fenrir's out. Can i put in the 3 musketeers? If i can, can i put them on the saber, lancer and rider class?
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You Should have added in this Thread on what would they wish if they win the Grail.
Oh yeah which Fictional characters do you think are already qualified to be servants like sasaki kojiro or nursery rhyme?
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lordsparda09 wrote...
You Should have added in this Thread on what would they wish if they win the Grail.
Oh yeah which Fictional characters do you think are already qualified to be servants like sasaki kojiro or nursery rhyme?


i think that would cut the amount of HS made here. also, not all servants have a wish. they get summoned because of the artifacts that has a connection with them.
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Lurker3173 wrote...
lordsparda09 wrote...
You Should have added in this Thread on what would they wish if they win the Grail.
Oh yeah which Fictional characters do you think are already qualified to be servants like sasaki kojiro or nursery rhyme?


i think that would cut the amount of HS made here. also, not all servants have a wish. they get summoned because of the artifacts that has a connection with them.


no ,i meant you as the master.
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lordsparda09 wrote...
Lurker3173 wrote...
lordsparda09 wrote...
You Should have added in this Thread on what would they wish if they win the Grail.
Oh yeah which Fictional characters do you think are already qualified to be servants like sasaki kojiro or nursery rhyme?


i think that would cut the amount of HS made here. also, not all servants have a wish. they get summoned because of the artifacts that has a connection with them.


no ,i meant you as the master.


that's up to the fan fic maker seeing as we can summon only 1 hero and we'll be making heroes here. personally, my wish might be too much. i just wanna make heroic spirits
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Lurker3173 wrote...
lordsparda09 wrote...
Lurker3173 wrote...
lordsparda09 wrote...
You Should have added in this Thread on what would they wish if they win the Grail.
Oh yeah which Fictional characters do you think are already qualified to be servants like sasaki kojiro or nursery rhyme?


i think that would cut the amount of HS made here. also, not all servants have a wish. they get summoned because of the artifacts that has a connection with them.


no ,i meant you as the master.


that's up to the fan fic maker seeing as we can summon only 1 hero and we'll be making heroes here. personally, my wish might be too much. i just wanna make heroic spirits


Mine would probably like most mages: to reach the root/Akasha/Akashic records and learn about the beginning of everything.