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PT_Adrock wrote...
Lelouch24 wrote...
[color=#2e1a6b]I have seen many horrible calls by these refs, mostly related to pass-interference and forward progress. Despite this, I'm really getting annoyed with everyone's reaction to the replacement officials. These refs are unpredictable as to what they'll call and what they won't, but the bad calls usually are evenly distributed between both teams. These refs just give everyone an excuse for when their team loses.I thought they made the right call at the end of the Packers-Seahawks game. I've seen numerous plays in which both receivers and defenders simultaneously caught it, and the experienced referees would rule it a catch. Even though Jennings had much more control of it, he didn't pull it away from the seahawk reciever, so it was a draw, therefore a catch.
define "evenly" I'm used to bad calls but when you have calls that make Russian roulette more fair then we have a big problem, and as for excuses, I generally hate excuses but there is a thin line between excuses and being justified
I wiped that game from my head...I don't need to go do something more relaxing like drive a car in San Fransisco traffic
[color=#2e1a6b]Well, when I say evenly, I mean that both teams are equally screwed by the refs. For example, when I play Basketball, I'm always stuck with horrible refs that will ignore blatant fouls. Since they ignore blatant fouls for both teams, the bad calls are evenly made for each team.
I saw some ridiculous pass-interference called, but in most games the pass interference was called on both teams. It certainly is frustrating to deal with horrible refs; I deal with them all the time. It just seems like these refs have opened doors for excessive excuses.
Packers fans are blaming the replacement refs for their loss, when I think the experienced refs would have made the same call. IMO, the refs are not a justified excuse
My coach tells me to never complain about the refs and just win by a large margin so that we don't have to worry about what the refs call
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Looky-tan
Got Megane?
Lelouch24 wrote...
Packers fans are blaming the replacement refs for their loss, when I think the experienced refs would have made the same call. IMO, the refs are not a justified excuseWhich they should blame.
Looky-tan wrote...
Plus the real refs wouldn't have called Pass Inf. on Shields, which set this disaster up in the first place.
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Lelouch24 wrote...
[color=#2e1a6b]Well, when I say evenly, I mean that both teams are equally screwed by the refs. For example, when I play Basketball, I'm always stuck with horrible refs that will ignore blatant fouls. Since they ignore blatant fouls for both teams, the bad calls are evenly made for each team.
well to be honest, we shouldn't have to think like this, it should be more like "this will be a good game" not " well they are both screwed" besides they shouldn't be this many bad calls, this is just pitiful
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Looky-tan wrote...
Lelouch24 wrote...
Packers fans are blaming the replacement refs for their loss, when I think the experienced refs would have made the same call. IMO, the refs are not a justified excuseWhich they should blame.
Looky-tan wrote...
Plus the real refs wouldn't have called Pass Inf. on Shields, which set this disaster up in the first place. [color=#2e1a6b]I was referring to hail mary play being ruled a touchdown.
I just watched the highlights again. I am seeing that the pass-interference was only called on the packers. I didn't see the one on shields though.
@PT_atrock, your right. At the professional level, referees should not totally suck. I play highschool basketball, so it's kinda expected that they wouldn't be the best.
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Looky-tan
Got Megane?
Lelouch24 wrote...
Looky-tan wrote...
Lelouch24 wrote...
Packers fans are blaming the replacement refs for their loss, when I think the experienced refs would have made the same call. IMO, the refs are not a justified excuseWhich they should blame.
Looky-tan wrote...
Plus the real refs wouldn't have called Pass Inf. on Shields, which set this disaster up in the first place. [color=#2e1a6b]I was referring to hail mary play being ruled a touchdown.
I just watched the highlights again. I am seeing that the pass-interference was only called on the packers. I didn't see the one on shields though.
And they should still blame the official total lack of experience for being able to see and identify Jennings INT.
Alright, did my research, it wasn't before that hail mary, I apologize, but it does change a lot.
4th Quarter (6:14)
1st and 25 on Sea 43 (after the 2 offensive holding penalties)
3-R.Wilson pass incomplete deep right to 18-S.Rice. PENALTY on GB-37-S.Shields, Defensive Pass Interference, 32 yards, enforced at SEA 43 - No Play.
That should have been offensive pass-inf
So now its would have been 1st and 35!!! There is no doubt in my mind that the Seahawks wouldn't get a TD off this possession. They would have "maybe" gotten into field goal range, which would have made it a 12-10 Packers lead. Then the Packers would have the ball with maybe 5 minutes left. Everything changes. Period.
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With the replacement refs it's hard to watch football because of the simple and crucial mistakes they make. I watched the ending of the Seattle and Packers game 10 times and still see that Jennings intercepted the ball and had the ball secured on his chest compared to Tate who made an offensive pass interference and had one arm on it.
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Still going to watch regardless, but these refs have to go. Fans say they are going to boycott, but I doubt that when some of them have paid for season tickets, and those who watch at home will be watching again this Sunday. Just a bunch of hot air.
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I'll just post this here and be on my way~
Thurday, September 27th
8:20 PM ET
Browns at Ravens
Sunday, September 30th
1:00 PM ET
Patriots at Bills
1:00 PM ET
49ers at Jets
1:00 PM ET
Seahawks at Rams
1:00 PM ET
Panthers at Falcons
1:00 PM ET
Vikings at Lions
1:00 PM ET
Chargers at Chiefs
1:00 PM ET
Titans at Texans
4:05 PM ET
Bengals at Jaguars
4:05 PM ET
Raiders at Broncos
4:05 PM ET
Dolphins at Cardinals
4:25 PM ET
Redskins at Buccaneers
4:25 PM ET
Saints at Packers
8:20 PM ET
Giants at Eagles
Monday, October 01st
8:30 PM ET
Bears at Cowboys
Thurday, September 27th
8:20 PM ET
Browns at Ravens
Sunday, September 30th
1:00 PM ET
Patriots at Bills
1:00 PM ET
49ers at Jets
1:00 PM ET
Seahawks at Rams
1:00 PM ET
Panthers at Falcons
1:00 PM ET
Vikings at Lions
1:00 PM ET
Chargers at Chiefs
1:00 PM ET
Titans at Texans
4:05 PM ET
Bengals at Jaguars
4:05 PM ET
Raiders at Broncos
4:05 PM ET
Dolphins at Cardinals
4:25 PM ET
Redskins at Buccaneers
4:25 PM ET
Saints at Packers
8:20 PM ET
Giants at Eagles
Monday, October 01st
8:30 PM ET
Bears at Cowboys
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Looky-tan
Got Megane?
Okay, I'll try moving on, but the problem at hand won't.
1:00 PM ET
Chargers at Chiefs
4:05 PM ET
Raiders at Broncos
Alright!! AFC West division games
GO CHIEFS!
PT_Adrock wrote...
I'll just post this here and be on my way~1:00 PM ET
Chargers at Chiefs
4:05 PM ET
Raiders at Broncos
Alright!! AFC West division games
GO CHIEFS!
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Looky-tan wrote...
Okay, I'll try moving on, but the problem at hand won't.PT_Adrock wrote...
I'll just post this here and be on my way~1:00 PM ET
Chargers at Chiefs
4:05 PM ET
Raiders at Broncos
Alright!! AFC West division games
GO CHIEFS!
Giants and a Chargers fan here sorry, go Chargers!
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Looky-tan
Got Megane?
PT_Adrock wrote...
Ok the deal has been struck and the real refs will be back on Thursday!Yeah I knew/heard the minute they announced it on sports center.
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Looky-tan wrote...
PT_Adrock wrote...
Ok the deal has been struck and the real refs will be back on Thursday!Yeah I knew/heard the minute they announced it on sports center.
well I have have to say is, thank you for doing it before thursday
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Looky-tan
Got Megane?
PT_Adrock wrote...
Looky-tan wrote...
PT_Adrock wrote...
Ok the deal has been struck and the real refs will be back on Thursday!Yeah I knew/heard the minute they announced it on sports center.
well I have have to say is, thank you for doing it before thursday
Now just to see the outcome of all this.
I do see there being a lot of personal foul calls happening, since these last 3 weeks, players have been so used to trying to get cheap shots in, now with the official refs back, they will see all those, and be calling them, just like with all the pass interference calls. It doesn't mean the officials are wrong, just that the players got used to being rougher than normal, so now they gotta get back to the way they were before all this.
Anyways, great to have the refs back, look forward to tomorrows game a lot more now.
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Looky-tan wrote...
PT_Adrock wrote...
Looky-tan wrote...
PT_Adrock wrote...
Ok the deal has been struck and the real refs will be back on Thursday!Yeah I knew/heard the minute they announced it on sports center.
well I have have to say is, thank you for doing it before thursday
Now just to see the outcome of all this.
I do see there being a lot of personal foul calls happening, since these last 3 weeks, players have been so used to trying to get cheap shots in, now with the official refs back, they will see all those, and be calling them, just like with all the pass interference calls. It doesn't mean the officials are wrong, just that the players got used to being rougher than normal, so now they gotta get back to the way they were before all this.
Anyways, great to have the refs back, look forward to tomorrows game a lot more now.
Its just too bad that the deal had to come at the expense of the Packers. If they end up 9-7 and miss the playoffs by a game, that MNF game will be looked at even worse than now. And listening to Steve Young's rant on the NFL last week just left me with a bad taste in my mouth. He was one hundred percent right, and there is nothing fans can do about it.
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Tsujoi
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I found it hilarious that they were using refs that were fired from the lingerie football league. Glad that the regular refs are coming back.
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Looky-tan
Got Megane?
Browns v Raven
I am gonna sa- OH DAMN THAT HIT!!!
Great play, great hit, but damn!! I hope he's alright.
I am gonna sa- OH DAMN THAT HIT!!!
Great play, great hit, but damn!! I hope he's alright.
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i'm glad ravens won (one of my two fave teams) this whole thing w/ the refs is over but the actual officials also make mistakes too so meh. i doubt that the ugly monday night loss will prevent the packers from making the postseason but oh boy, if it does.. that's gonna suck. not a good thing for "the shield" as they say. anyways here are my picks for this coming sunday:
Thursday, September 27th
8:20 PM ET
Browns at Ravens - i had ravens winning but who didn't?
Sunday, September 30th
1:00 PM ET
Patriots at Bills
1:00 PM ET -if the bills win, wow. however i'm confident the pats will get it done
49ers at Jets
1:00 PM ET - gg this one.. hmm, i'll go w niners on the road.
Seahawks at Rams
1:00 PM ET -sorry hawks, fake refs can't help you no more lol rams @ home.
Panthers at Falcons
1:00 PM ET -man i'm SO rooting for cam newton but i'm sure the falcons got this.
Vikings at Lions
1:00 PM ET - hmm.. i'm gonna go w/ vikings to upset the lions.
Chargers at Chiefs
1:00 PM ET - not sure, let's say the home team cuz not feeling either.
Titans at Texans
4:05 PM ET - holy shit, matt schaub looking like the mvp right now. they got a great team on deck so ima go w/ houston.
Bengals at Jaguars
4:05 PM ET -eeehh.. another which i'm not feelin' either team.. but let's say bengals on the road.
Raiders at Broncos
4:05 PM ET -broncos gonna bounce back
Dolphins at Cardinals
4:25 PM ET - my home team on the road... cardinals lookin' good lately so ima go w/ them lol
Redskins at Buccaneers
4:25 PM ET - i'm looking to see team joe gibbs to get the win. (skins lol)
Saints at Packers -
4:25 PM ET - wow this is gonna be a good one. damn sorry saints fans but this won't be your 1st win.
Giants at Eagles
8:20 PM ET - SNF! i'm anticiping an eagles win.
Monday, October 01st
8:30 PM ET
Bears at Cowboys - wow i wish both teams could lose lol or maybe a tie! fuck it, i'll go w/ the 'boys since they're at home.
PT_Adrock wrote...
Thursday, September 27th
8:20 PM ET
Browns at Ravens - i had ravens winning but who didn't?
Sunday, September 30th
1:00 PM ET
Patriots at Bills
1:00 PM ET -if the bills win, wow. however i'm confident the pats will get it done
49ers at Jets
1:00 PM ET - gg this one.. hmm, i'll go w niners on the road.
Seahawks at Rams
1:00 PM ET -sorry hawks, fake refs can't help you no more lol rams @ home.
Panthers at Falcons
1:00 PM ET -man i'm SO rooting for cam newton but i'm sure the falcons got this.
Vikings at Lions
1:00 PM ET - hmm.. i'm gonna go w/ vikings to upset the lions.
Chargers at Chiefs
1:00 PM ET - not sure, let's say the home team cuz not feeling either.
Titans at Texans
4:05 PM ET - holy shit, matt schaub looking like the mvp right now. they got a great team on deck so ima go w/ houston.
Bengals at Jaguars
4:05 PM ET -eeehh.. another which i'm not feelin' either team.. but let's say bengals on the road.
Raiders at Broncos
4:05 PM ET -broncos gonna bounce back
Dolphins at Cardinals
4:25 PM ET - my home team on the road... cardinals lookin' good lately so ima go w/ them lol
Redskins at Buccaneers
4:25 PM ET - i'm looking to see team joe gibbs to get the win. (skins lol)
Saints at Packers -
4:25 PM ET - wow this is gonna be a good one. damn sorry saints fans but this won't be your 1st win.
Giants at Eagles
8:20 PM ET - SNF! i'm anticiping an eagles win.
Monday, October 01st
8:30 PM ET
Bears at Cowboys - wow i wish both teams could lose lol or maybe a tie! fuck it, i'll go w/ the 'boys since they're at home.
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Looky-tan
Got Megane?
PT_Adrock wrote...
Patriots at Bills
49ers at Jets
Seahawks at Rams
Panthers at Falcons
Vikings at Lions
Chargers at Chiefs
Titans at Texans
Bengals at Jaguars
Raiders at Broncos
Dolphins at Cardinals
Redskins at Buccaneers
Saints at Packers
Giants at Eagles
Too much to explain my picks, but I did think about how having the good refs change what my picks might have been. I'll start keeping track of my picks from this point forward now too.