How come animes can become doujinshi but not hentai anime

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Sup

This popped into my head while I was reading Sailor Moon doujinshi. How come licensed animes can be made into smutty doujinshi but not into hentai anime. I think I am not alone when I say I would love to see a hentai anime of all the sailor scouts doing each other in as many combinations as possible including Chibi-usa and Hotaru and no I am not referring to the crap Sailor Moon and the Dragon Ballz (although that was entertaining) but a anime with the characters drawn true to scale and appearance and personality.


I am not saying that every anime should have a hentai episode or even a series That would be so wrong even though in any series I watch I can think of girls I would love to see in a hentai but that's just me being a pervert which I make no apologies for but I can't see why the creators of these anime think giving permission to make licensed and respected anime into a doujinshi or hentai comic is any different from giving permission to use the characters in a hentai anime

Anyone else out there have an opinion on this?
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Doujins are made by fans and can be made pretty cheaply (meaning, they don't cost thousands of dollars to make). Hentai videos cost a lot more and take a lot more work to create. So, a small group of people can easily draw a doujin and sell it to their friends, but it is much harder and more unlikely that the same small group will be able to create their own hentai video.

Also, I don't know for certain, but I believe that hentai videos earn most of their money by being sold in large quantities in many markets. When a video is made, it's shipped all over the place, and it may sell hundreds of thousands of copies. When a doujin is made, it's typically small and is not sent to every city in Japan. One doujin selling hundreds of thousands of copies is very rare, I believe.

Furthermore, doujins can easily be ignored by the studios that hold the rights to the anime series. Hentai videos, however, cannot be ignored as easily, because more copies are sold, and so on.

In short, I can draw a comic that has Ichigo and Rukia fucking and post it on the web or even sell copies of it to people through my website, and it won't cost me too much or require a lot of work. I cannot, however, make an animated video of Ichigo and Rukia fucking by myself. Even if I was somehow able to make such a video, I couldn't have it carried in a Hustler's store, for copyright reasons.
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And do you really think that the cast that did the anime would fall to the level of making some bad porn and ruining their reputation?
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Doujins are drawn mostly by free artist, none of it is truly legitimate stuff.

Unless you want multiple artists and animators to make something for it, it can be done, but most of all, it uses a lot of time and man power to make an animation. They won't be making much if any off of this since it really isn't their original idea. It can't be big due to copyright issues. It can't go legit because it will possibly ruin the original work's image followed by a lawsuit. It doesn't work in today's society where money comes first.

There are some fan made 3D clips of chars here and there.
I have some of Ichigo 100% girls. There's some Final fantasy one I believe and there should be some of One piece and Naruto.

Edit: ninja'd with a better explanation too
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y'all remember now doujin isn't smut but free form expression that is original work that could also be based on other works

as to copyright laws and all that heres a bit of something (i'm trying to remember this so my findings may be wrong or incorrect)

around 2007-2008 there was a magazine posting on the manga boom in america contrary between the years of 2000-2005 (i think it may have been wired not so sure)

anyways besides explaining the international manga/anime boom, it also delve a look into doujin and their mangaka

in its explanation the author of the article borrowed one of the manga industries oldest editors and asked questions about this

in his response, he said there was legal issues pertaining to doujins
im not sure if he said there was any arrests but there were lawsuits and stuff against many of the doujin circles out there

however there was a decline in manga at the time and the producers and executives let go of this fiasco

instead, they noticed a rise in manga sales and some gladly encouraged more doujins around

reason being the population who read manga read also doujins from time to time
and doujins opens up new the rest of the world pertaining to popular series
thus people who read the doujin who found that particular series entertaining would go and read/watch the actual series

not to mention almost all of the mangaka in mainstream were all doujin circle start-ups

anyways doujin included more than just manga

some included the music remixes, custom figures, fan-made merchandise, and even title crossovers and games

the most popular of doujins sometimes gets added as canon story lines, whether it was prequel or sequel (fate/hallow ataraxia supposedly was a fan made doujin that was accepted by type-moon)

it its own way doujin helped manga and defined the otherside of things and even broadened the view on sometimes small, focused areas in anime/manga
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ShaggyJebus wrote...
Doujins are made by fans and can be made pretty cheaply (meaning, they don't cost thousands of dollars to make). Hentai videos cost a lot more and take a lot more work to create. So, a small group of people can easily draw a doujin and sell it to their friends, but it is much harder and more unlikely that the same small group will be able to create their own hentai video.

Also, I don't know for certain, but I believe that hentai videos earn most of their money by being sold in large quantities in many markets. When a video is made, it's shipped all over the place, and it may sell hundreds of thousands of copies. When a doujin is made, it's typically small and is not sent to every city in Japan. One doujin selling hundreds of thousands of copies is very rare, I believe.

Furthermore, doujins can easily be ignored by the studios that hold the rights to the anime series. Hentai videos, however, cannot be ignored as easily, because more copies are sold, and so on.

In short, I can draw a comic that has Ichigo and Rukia fucking and post it on the web or even sell copies of it to people through my website, and it won't cost me too much or require a lot of work. I cannot, however, make an animated video of Ichigo and Rukia fucking by myself. Even if I was somehow able to make such a video, I couldn't have it carried in a Hustler's store, for copyright reasons.


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.....I think a further explanation is unnecessary. they explained mostly everything that answers that.

But nice question. I was wondering myself. I've seen some Hentai anime's but only short one's like 2-3 minutes and the pictures weren't exactly like the original. I think I agree with the point that creating a hentai doujin of a certain anime is really a hard ass labour. Not to mention the side effects that come with it like sued for copyright and reputation would just sink.
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As someone who has made a living off of importing and selling doujin for almost 7 years now I can probably clear up some of the misconceptions people have about the legality surrounding them.

Doujinshi are illegal in Japan. They always have been and in all likelihood they always will be.

Where most of the confusion comes in is that there is an un-written agreement between the rights-holders of the characters and the independent artists. Note I said independent and not amateur. Anyone who is self-publishing their work can do doujinshi and there are plenty of serialized artists and authors that release their own doujin either in between series or in their spare time.

The agreement is made up of the following loose rules:

- Limited print runs/no mass production. There is no hard cap to this but generally if a circle is printing up tens of thousands of copies and doing reprints when a run sells out they are going to get shut down.

- Do not use official logos. One of the easiest ways to make the rights-holders know that no one will mistake a doujinshi for an official product is to make sure that the official logo of the series name is never used. This is why you often see doujin whose titles are clever or pervy spin-offs. Even if they use the same font design it is alright if it isn't the same name as well.

- If a company sends you a cease-and-desist letter you stop doing books of their series/character. While from time to time a few companies will crack down on hentai and yaoi doujin of their series (Nintendo being the most famous for this) they will always serve an artist or author with a cease-and-desist first instead of filing a law suit or having them arrested.

In addition the culture of doujinshi makes it much easier on these companies to find new talent since the best artists and authors end up with fan bases that are easy to spot. It also gives some published/serialized artists an outlet to use ideas for their own series that they weren't allowed to, one of the best examples of this being Maki Murakami's Gravitation Remix doujin that allowed her to draw all the sex scenes that she couldn't in the tankoban.
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Still frowned and disdained. But only in limited quantities.

haha
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Chill out dudes.
Just browse the web and youll find tenchi muyo in aga rutter the most perfect example of what you all seem to crave.
Theres also yellow star/cashern luna lookalike,
Kite/elcia and polymar lookalikes and mezzo forte oav not tv/june swan of gatchaman lookalike, all drawn by the very same yasuomi the umetsu for censored and umezu for nsfw.
And theres more lots of it around. Just dont be so nitpicky and youll find sailor moon in sos sexy sailor soldiers and even super sailor moon stuff in star jewel.
Plus if you lower the bar just a little theres doujins which became anime with the drawing of same doujinkas of source material.
Hell theres even ranomonto toranomon vids of many ghibli and takahashi works.
Theres naruto nadia and rayearth and evangelion too better drawn than starballZ.
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It costs tens of thousands of dollars to animate a 30-minute episode of a Saturday morning cartoon. How are the people drawing the hentai anime parody you propose, going to get the money to do this- without having the copyright holders of the very anime they're making a hentai parody of, sue them for more money than the parody will ever make?

Dojinshi doesn't make much money, and studios allow Japanese lawmakers to leave a loophole in the country's copyright laws so dojin artists won't get sued for making hentai parody manga- but the moment someone makes a parody ANIME that makes a profit the studios will undoubtedly believe is rightfully theirs? That loophole will be closed VERY QUICKLY.