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[Locked] Content blocker feature
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Drifter995
Neko//Night
It's been said before that they don't plan to implement anything of the sort, as it tends to stop people reading many things, and would alienate a lot of content and/or artists as well.
For example of ntr, since I know you really dislike it.
I also dislike ntr, however there are some examples that I have stumbled upon, but end up reading all of it, because it's very compelling. Usually ones that have a good ending.
Or ones that just hook me in for some reason. Blacklisting them all is a bad idea personally.
I'd much rather stumble upon one by accident, and find I enjoyed it, rather than black list them, and never see it.
Plus, checking tags before you go in is usually fairly easy. Though something to show all tags before opening would be handy, so you're not wasting a few seconds there.
But, either way, plenty of things I've stumbled upon with tags I don't enjoy, that I've ended up enjoying.
Though, I am also fairly open minded, so that could just be me
For example of ntr, since I know you really dislike it.
I also dislike ntr, however there are some examples that I have stumbled upon, but end up reading all of it, because it's very compelling. Usually ones that have a good ending.
Or ones that just hook me in for some reason. Blacklisting them all is a bad idea personally.
I'd much rather stumble upon one by accident, and find I enjoyed it, rather than black list them, and never see it.
Plus, checking tags before you go in is usually fairly easy. Though something to show all tags before opening would be handy, so you're not wasting a few seconds there.
But, either way, plenty of things I've stumbled upon with tags I don't enjoy, that I've ended up enjoying.
Though, I am also fairly open minded, so that could just be me
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Drifter995 wrote...
It's been said before that they don't plan to implement anything of the sort, as it tends to stop people reading many things, and would alienate a lot of content and/or artists as well.For example of ntr, since I know you really dislike it.
I also dislike ntr, however there are some examples that I have stumbled upon, but end up reading all of it, because it's very compelling. Usually ones that have a good ending.
Or ones that just hook me in for some reason. Blacklisting them all is a bad idea personally.
I'd much rather stumble upon one by accident, and find I enjoyed it, rather than black list them, and never see it.
Plus, checking tags before you go in is usually fairly easy. Though something to show all tags before opening would be handy, so you're not wasting a few seconds there.
But, either way, plenty of things I've stumbled upon with tags I don't enjoy, that I've ended up enjoying.
Though, I am also fairly open minded, so that could just be me
Don't know why fakku can't just put a grey filter over content people choose not to want to see or maybe some sort of secondary verification like "Your about to read content you may not like" or something to that degree. I very much doubt you would enjoy Asanagi's work, gut punching lolis, limb removal, pretty much rough stuff, stuff most people would not be okay with. So a filter isn't necessarily a bad idea its just that getting content shoved in your face that turns out has tags you don't enjoy isn't a good way for fakku to present content to its customers, it could be better but that requires fakku to actually do something instead of nothing.
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Drifter995
Neko//Night
RozenLetter wrote...
Drifter995 wrote...
It's been said before that they don't plan to implement anything of the sort, as it tends to stop people reading many things, and would alienate a lot of content and/or artists as well.For example of ntr, since I know you really dislike it.
I also dislike ntr, however there are some examples that I have stumbled upon, but end up reading all of it, because it's very compelling. Usually ones that have a good ending.
Or ones that just hook me in for some reason. Blacklisting them all is a bad idea personally.
I'd much rather stumble upon one by accident, and find I enjoyed it, rather than black list them, and never see it.
Plus, checking tags before you go in is usually fairly easy. Though something to show all tags before opening would be handy, so you're not wasting a few seconds there.
But, either way, plenty of things I've stumbled upon with tags I don't enjoy, that I've ended up enjoying.
Though, I am also fairly open minded, so that could just be me
Don't know why fakku can't just put a grey filter over content people choose not to want to see or maybe some sort of secondary verification like "Your about to read content you may not like" or something to that degree. I very much doubt you would enjoy Asanagi's work, gut punching lolis, limb removal, pretty much rough stuff, stuff most people would not be okay with. So a filter isn't necessarily a bad idea its just that getting content shoved in your face that turns out has tags you don't enjoy isn't a good way for fakku to present content to its customers, it could be better but that requires fakku to actually do something instead of nothing.
See, you'd block off all of asanagis content, even though he has a lot good content.
Case in point.
There is also cases where a tag gets accidentally put, and then people don't touch it, even though it doesn't have that tag in the end.
Stuff like that
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Drifter995 wrote...
RozenLetter wrote...
Drifter995 wrote...
It's been said before that they don't plan to implement anything of the sort, as it tends to stop people reading many things, and would alienate a lot of content and/or artists as well.For example of ntr, since I know you really dislike it.
I also dislike ntr, however there are some examples that I have stumbled upon, but end up reading all of it, because it's very compelling. Usually ones that have a good ending.
Or ones that just hook me in for some reason. Blacklisting them all is a bad idea personally.
I'd much rather stumble upon one by accident, and find I enjoyed it, rather than black list them, and never see it.
Plus, checking tags before you go in is usually fairly easy. Though something to show all tags before opening would be handy, so you're not wasting a few seconds there.
But, either way, plenty of things I've stumbled upon with tags I don't enjoy, that I've ended up enjoying.
Though, I am also fairly open minded, so that could just be me
Don't know why fakku can't just put a grey filter over content people choose not to want to see or maybe some sort of secondary verification like "Your about to read content you may not like" or something to that degree. I very much doubt you would enjoy Asanagi's work, gut punching lolis, limb removal, pretty much rough stuff, stuff most people would not be okay with. So a filter isn't necessarily a bad idea its just that getting content shoved in your face that turns out has tags you don't enjoy isn't a good way for fakku to present content to its customers, it could be better but that requires fakku to actually do something instead of nothing.
See, you'd block off all of asanagis content, even though he has a lot good content.
Case in point.
There is also cases where a tag gets accidentally put, and then people don't touch it, even though it doesn't have that tag in the end.
Stuff like that
I literally just said i didn't enjoy asanagi's content due to his content being very over the line a lot of the time and even if he did do normal content i wouldn't support him because I, again, don't enjoy limb removal or very aggressive female abuse.
This statement only applies in books with multiple chapters and holds no water with the subs.
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So you're saying that Fakku decides not to allow users to block things because it's less exposure for artists? If someone wants to restrict themselves to only one tag and is fine paying 13 dollars a month for it, what's the issue? It doesn't affect you or anyone else because they decided to not look at anything else to begin with. Hentai artists make works that appeal to a certain fetish in hopes that the audience it appeals to will buy it because it's guaranteed to be more profitable than trying to appeal to the indecisive, or the ones who dislike their works. I assure you NTR artists spare no thought wondering about how they can reach out to the Vanilla crowd in their work that's about the guy's girlfriend getting gangraped by every guy in the school.
Anthologies get paid upfront for licensing rights so the artists in it are guaranteed at least some compensation, it would be weird if it were dependent on if someone sees their work on this site or not. I see this only applying if the artist has a book of theirs released on here, but even then the amount of people who buy that book compared to the overall userbase paying for the subscription fee to use the site has to be smaller. This is ignoring that every new book so far, even the controversial ones, have been advertised all over the site without fail.
"Alienation" doesn't work when you realize that works like Metamorphosis, one of the darkest series on the site, was pretty popular and multiple other works like it in terms of "controversy" from artists have been uploaded over the years. This includes what is deemed illegal and taboo in other countries like loli, shota, incest etc. NTR is also a bad example too because when the "popular tags" used to be listed to the right it was shown to be extremely popular even though it has less than 1/10th of the posts Vanilla has.
Anyway, as far as I'm concerned I could care less about what's profitable for a company or "exposure" for artists if it means forcing users to see content they don't like every now and then as "part of the experience". It's a subscription service, not an image board where people can post gross or illegal content every now and then that you realize is "part of the risk" of using it. There's a reason why people use adblockers on sites like YouTube, even though the content creators are asked to run advertisements from their sponsors for "making money" and "exposure", because ads are content people usually don't like seeing.
In short:
Also, please show me a statement from Fakku staff saying they won't make a client-side system for blocking certain tags. The only thing I remember in the past years is them saying they will "not refrain from publishing controversial content" or something along those lines when the subscription service was starting, which isn't the same thing. If they did every say anything like that then I guess the portion of the userbase who wants a feature like this will have to "deal with it" like others have suggested, or try and find a group willing to make a browser extension or something to have a feature like this.
Anthologies get paid upfront for licensing rights so the artists in it are guaranteed at least some compensation, it would be weird if it were dependent on if someone sees their work on this site or not. I see this only applying if the artist has a book of theirs released on here, but even then the amount of people who buy that book compared to the overall userbase paying for the subscription fee to use the site has to be smaller. This is ignoring that every new book so far, even the controversial ones, have been advertised all over the site without fail.
"Alienation" doesn't work when you realize that works like Metamorphosis, one of the darkest series on the site, was pretty popular and multiple other works like it in terms of "controversy" from artists have been uploaded over the years. This includes what is deemed illegal and taboo in other countries like loli, shota, incest etc. NTR is also a bad example too because when the "popular tags" used to be listed to the right it was shown to be extremely popular even though it has less than 1/10th of the posts Vanilla has.
Anyway, as far as I'm concerned I could care less about what's profitable for a company or "exposure" for artists if it means forcing users to see content they don't like every now and then as "part of the experience". It's a subscription service, not an image board where people can post gross or illegal content every now and then that you realize is "part of the risk" of using it. There's a reason why people use adblockers on sites like YouTube, even though the content creators are asked to run advertisements from their sponsors for "making money" and "exposure", because ads are content people usually don't like seeing.
In short:
- Fakku gets money regardless if people view works they don't like or not because you have to pay to use the site for its intended purpose (aka seeing full uncensored porn instead of thumbnail previews). Their sole purpose as a business is getting people to buy their product, NOT if they use that product.
- Artists still make things exclusively for a target audience and not for people who hate them
- Artists get paid by anthologies for participating in their magazine, not by Fakku based on how popular their work was
- "Alienation" from the western audience, which is already small compared to their audience in Japan, is a ridiculous claim and doesn't apply considering there's already a wide array of fetishes tagged on the site, some of which already cater to "controversial" tastes
Also, please show me a statement from Fakku staff saying they won't make a client-side system for blocking certain tags. The only thing I remember in the past years is them saying they will "not refrain from publishing controversial content" or something along those lines when the subscription service was starting, which isn't the same thing. If they did every say anything like that then I guess the portion of the userbase who wants a feature like this will have to "deal with it" like others have suggested, or try and find a group willing to make a browser extension or something to have a feature like this.
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YQII
FAKKU Translator
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