Any Dota players?

half , who do you think you are ? centaur ?



dead after dead ?
and i doubt that Lion have much hp to do that ... we talk about one of int who have low Hp ...

To think about it , Ogre magi is one of heroes who have best str .. and you must know , how much default hp he has ..

And Arg, doesn't matter , i love sakuya :3

If the ogre is smart enough,the lion wouldnt even stay in lane and he can just rune whore

nah I prefer blondes and sakuya seems to having inconstant bust size in her pictures - -;;

i mean dead after that..

and how much multicast he'll get? normally 2-3 times. bloodstone improves 500 HP. lvl 16 int is usually >1500 HP. 3x300 dam: just 900, not counting armor.

And lion have more disablere than ogre + stun~
i belive that ogre won't survive if he hit by ulti and dagon~

so , you think , ogre magi is stupid enough to let you got BloodS ?
if i am ogre magi, i will harass you like what should i do at early game ...

As I said,you will never reach those items provided the kind of Ogre harasses you and kills you considering you would be slower than him and weaker than him early game.

PROVIDED we reach those items,bloodstone only adds charges if heroes are killed and this is a 1v1,its impractical to begin with since with the said amount of gold,add 500 more you could go for a better heart.

Lion cant survive a head on assault with Ogre.

Its amazing no one is considering the same situation but with the items i mentioned on ogre - -;;

I think it will be the reverse,cuz the lion is ranged hero and have disabeler skill~

@Arg as long as i play dota, i never see any ogre that really turns down lion.

well, i still think that who cast the spell first become winner. if the ogre sneak and cast stun and get multicast, he wins, but if the lion faster to cast guinsoo, he'll do the combo and own ogre.

How are you going to do that?Lion's mana pool before your ulti is only enough for about 2~3 stuns and more with drain.Doing so will deny you of using your ulti later.

Ogre has a easier time harrassing since he can just stun you outside of your stun. range and burn you.

Taking into account their healths,lion would have to go out of his lane sooner or latter,affecting farming.

The only reason you dont see ogre owning lion because most people use ogre as a support hero since in 5v5 games his role is to boost DPSer to rape enemy heroes earlier and provide them mana with arcane

Forgot that Ogre magi have a big HP ?
You Guinsoo that dude 2 times, use dagon/FoD , i doubt that he can died just by that ...

@ Arg : do you remember , how much Ogre Magi's default str at lvl 25 ?

lol Let me go see in an AI map

~i think ogre can died from it,cus if i'm not wrong if your enemy is Hexed,he don't have armor bonus(armor counted as 0 on damage count)~

So , you think that armor is penetrated by magical damage ?
don't think so , Gob ...

Armor block physical damage ..
even i have 0 armor, damage still the same , and every hero have random magic resistance . As far as i know , every int have big resistance against magical attack ,

and Arg , i found them .. around 99.8 str ogre magi can learn when reaching lvl 25 ..

no,no.i said(my frien tell me) that the armor is zero(even not showed) so both physical and magical damage deal 100% damage(but still don't know if it's right or not)~

and i think there is no such thing as magical reduce if you increase int,there is only armor reduce all kind of damage~

i think it's not right .. since magical damage doesn't get affected by how much armor you can get ...
and about 100% or not .. it's relative , y' know that i mostly using Rhasta ,
so i know the difference from hexed and not hexed ..
nothing different , just looks , you became chicken like .. and you cannot attack ..

You still want to defense ?

and know what dudes said about "Int Heroes" ?
"They cannot fight well in late game"

ok whats the topic here again...

Ogre Magi vs Lion , choose your side or die .. !!
nuff said

specifics please... or do I assume a scenario

Hmm .. you can see 2 pages behind this page , i'm too tired to type it all ,
But you're free to assume , battle by default stats and no item .. only middle ,
just like that ...

need me to repeat myself ?

No items... bare stats... I say Ogre has a advantage since he has more HP...

Lion oly has a chance if He ether, Ambushes and manages to kill ogre before he cast anything or if ogre's fisr stun dose not multicast...

other than that multicast will kill lion before he even get's a chance to fire a skill