Baltimore

It's police department is now in deep shit.

Department of Justice's Report
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/11/us/baltimore-police-bias-report.html?_r=1

A city where Democrats dominate every level of government not being accountable?

Oh wow, what a surprise.

Elaborate, if you will.

>post link showing rampant abuse, unconstitutional stops and general lack accountability of a city that's been a Democratic party stronghold for over a century
>"Elaborate if you will"

You can't expect me to know everything. ;w;

But does party affiliation really matter in this case? I'm only looking at the evidence in the report.

It matters because it shows who the people of Baltimore vote into public office and who keeps bringing up these race issues despite being a big part of the problem. The report itself doesn't tell most people anything "new", well at least things we couldn't infer.

I could go on for hours on how weakening public unions powers (heavily Dem leaning, if not entirely) would make it easier to get rid of "bad cops" and keep most departments under control. I'd even go further by saying as a public function, they aren't necessary but then I'd have to
-make a case for privatization of police/security
-make a case for a stateless, or very limited state society

Which won't get me far with a lot of people, on the left and right.

The police departments nationwide are corrupt as a whole and the few people who actually care don't have the power to do anything about it.

That's just how things are in America these days.

Even the idiots who think they can take up arms against the government in revolution are just fooling themselves - you can't fight the government or its military - they have superior weapons, superior training, teamwork, communication, intelligence, technology, and anything else you could think of.

Not to mention, the government and it's unofficially affiliated megacorporations mostly control our currency's value (based on debt, not gold/silver/oil), and in turn, control every single product you need to survive long-term.

It may not appear that way, but what if we suddenly stopped trading with China?

What if the US government suddenly decided, in large numbers, "Fuck the country let's get the hell out of here!"?

What do you think would happen to anyone who used the US dollar as currency?

There are self-sufficient communities out there, but do you think they'd survive if they fucked with the military?

Nope, gone in days, maybe weeks if they're lucky.

I don't think there's enough empirical evidence to support that.


The irony is we can't kill a bunch of middle eastern "terrorist" without killing a peaceful majority with indiscriminate drone bombing. So let's amp it up and do in the US, because that's totally feasible and everyone in the US top military and intelligence brass would be up for it.


This is the problem with pragmatism. Single national currency and a strong central government are all markings of a first world nation but it doesn't have to be so.


Ideally after a sudden spike US entrepreneurs would fill in the gaps. The US would then have an abundant amount of low tier jobs that we could export to South and Central America?



What do you mean? Elected officials just leaving?


Literally millions of viable options.




I love the assumption that without this abusive, abrasive and sometimes uncaring entity we're nothing when in reality it's the other way around.

Cops like fucking with colored people? Who knew?

Replying to everything you say would take a long time and I'm tired, I'll just say this:

Thanks for taking the time to present counter-arguments.

You indeed invalidated a lot of my points.

There are plenty of problems with my views, but no one nor their views are perfect.

Even though a lot of my points were invalidated, the main one stands - there's plenty of corruption to go around and not much you can do about it.

Because of the nature of state corruption and the way people hide information, finding empirical evidence would be a thing of legend, for sure - therefore just having a lack of said evidence does not discredit the claim.

I wish I had better evidence to support it, with which I could make a stronger argument, but we all know how much trouble that would take.

I don't disagree with you on that last point. Just don't think it's an "objective truth", especially not throughout the whole country. The best we can do is try to be more principled people and...actually be involved with our communities.

But that's work. Time. Money.

Yeah, that makes sense.

It's hard to truly know if one is principled or not unless they're clearly heroic and not looking for attention, but I guess those people are pretty rare these days.

Being more principled ourselves doesn't always show others that we have principles, though.

It's definitely hard, you're right.

However, I will say this - we have it a lot better here than many other countries, where the government basically rules the country with an iron fist and deceives its own people from the time they're born (*cough*North Korea)

So it's the same situation as Detroit?

The political aspect, yes. The law enforcement aspect is more like Ferguson.