Guys Pyre has a huge penis
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Black Jesus JC wrote...
Shotty Too Hotty wrote...
This is what happens when I'm gone…Yep. Suddenly we start talking about penises
Not enough penis talk is what i think.
Hail the penis!
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Right, let's get into this.
I wasn't involved in whatever that was, I still had trust in the things you said far beyond that point. I still considered you a friend and believed the things you told me. It was a few weeks after the CSIS lie that I found out. I also don't think your falling out took that long, for the most part people started calling you a liar a few weeks before you stopped showing up/got kicked and as a final note all of that happened after the CSIS lie.
The trust I give someone whom I've met and am trying to get to know? I generally believe the things people tell me about themselves when I meet them for the first time... fuck me right?
If I remember correctly, that was the way he had been responded to. The wording isn't exact, sure, but a long time ago I did finally manage to get my hands on the exchange. Don't believe me? Why don't you ask your friend yourself? The bluff was taken hook, line and sinker. Do you really think I would go so far as to find out what had actually been said if I didn't care about the false claims about my identity and attack on my integrity? If I didn't care about what kind of person you guys thought I was? If I had already lied about who I was? What would be the point in it? It wasn't until after I had found out what happened in the exchange that I lost an amount of trust in you and then after I found out how it had been handled I lost any semblance of trust in the group.
You're treating the group as the entity here, rather than a person by person basis. I wasn't around for whatever exchange you're talking about. All I know is you joined the group, we had some good times, things were going well, then I found out you lied and a lot of what you told me was horse shit which led to you leaving/getting kicked out. I don't know why someone elses false claims matter when I never made any, the only thing I was involved with was your "lack of integrity" regardless if it was in response to some slight you received from someone else or not.
I believed all of that, the only issue here is I also believed the CSIS nonsense, and the "working with the FBI" and "code breaker" nonsense I was fed as well.
You act like I care about appealing to you. Don't think for a minute this is about you Waar, I'm not stupid enough to waste my time trying to prove myself to someone who claims they'll never admit they're wrong. I'm only saying what I am and challenging your accusation because I'm not going to let someone make false claims about my integrity yet again, because there are friends I've made on here who's opinions I care about.
That's fine, it doesn't matter if you're trying to appeal to me or not. The simple fact of this entire case is you lied about yourself countless times and it's amusing to see you talk of integrity at this point. You may have changed, perhaps your new friends are people you truly value but it doesn't change who you were, or what you did. You decided to lie, you burned your bridges with us, with me, not the other way around.
Sure is some koko level victimization here.
p.s. I still have no idea who you believe accused you of being full of shit first.
Pyre wrote...
I was told what happened before the CSIS act, both the act and the exchange started/happened in 2010.I wasn't involved in whatever that was, I still had trust in the things you said far beyond that point. I still considered you a friend and believed the things you told me. It was a few weeks after the CSIS lie that I found out. I also don't think your falling out took that long, for the most part people started calling you a liar a few weeks before you stopped showing up/got kicked and as a final note all of that happened after the CSIS lie.
Pyre wrote...
What trust was there for me to betray by lying to you? To me it seems like there wasn't any trust to begin with.The trust I give someone whom I've met and am trying to get to know? I generally believe the things people tell me about themselves when I meet them for the first time... fuck me right?
Pyre wrote...
"Just the fact that you're willing to go that far is proof enough."If I remember correctly, that was the way he had been responded to. The wording isn't exact, sure, but a long time ago I did finally manage to get my hands on the exchange. Don't believe me? Why don't you ask your friend yourself? The bluff was taken hook, line and sinker. Do you really think I would go so far as to find out what had actually been said if I didn't care about the false claims about my identity and attack on my integrity? If I didn't care about what kind of person you guys thought I was? If I had already lied about who I was? What would be the point in it? It wasn't until after I had found out what happened in the exchange that I lost an amount of trust in you and then after I found out how it had been handled I lost any semblance of trust in the group.
You're treating the group as the entity here, rather than a person by person basis. I wasn't around for whatever exchange you're talking about. All I know is you joined the group, we had some good times, things were going well, then I found out you lied and a lot of what you told me was horse shit which led to you leaving/getting kicked out. I don't know why someone elses false claims matter when I never made any, the only thing I was involved with was your "lack of integrity" regardless if it was in response to some slight you received from someone else or not.
Pyre wrote...
I have hard evidence that I am who I said I was, the kind of evidence one would only have if they were actually the person in question. I wasn't full of shit when I told you I lived in a small town in the mountains and showed you that stack of firewood beside the trailer I lived in, or when I had moved back to Vancouver and was living there. Those are the only majorly notable things I had spoken about myself before the CSIS act and the false claims of my identity.I believed all of that, the only issue here is I also believed the CSIS nonsense, and the "working with the FBI" and "code breaker" nonsense I was fed as well.
Pyre wrote...
"Nah man, you got the timing wrong."You act like I care about appealing to you. Don't think for a minute this is about you Waar, I'm not stupid enough to waste my time trying to prove myself to someone who claims they'll never admit they're wrong. I'm only saying what I am and challenging your accusation because I'm not going to let someone make false claims about my integrity yet again, because there are friends I've made on here who's opinions I care about.
That's fine, it doesn't matter if you're trying to appeal to me or not. The simple fact of this entire case is you lied about yourself countless times and it's amusing to see you talk of integrity at this point. You may have changed, perhaps your new friends are people you truly value but it doesn't change who you were, or what you did. You decided to lie, you burned your bridges with us, with me, not the other way around.
Sure is some koko level victimization here.
p.s. I still have no idea who you believe accused you of being full of shit first.
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Waar wrote...
Right, let's get into this.Pyre wrote...
I was told what happened before the CSIS act, both the act and the exchange started/happened in 2010.p.s. I still have no idea who you believe accused you of being full of shit first.
A user named Droomy contacted the group making false claims about my identity, I was told all of you believed that and lost trust in you after because no one decided to let me know what was happening, and apparently he didn't have to try that hard, only saying that he was willing to provide proof and not actually providing any. I didn't care about your opinions after I found out because you clearly didn't place any amount of trust in me anyways. After all the "good times", that was the way you guys decided to handle the situation. I felt like I had been stabbed in the back.
I'm not trying to victimize myself Waar, if you want it take it that way go ahead, I don't really care. I'm saying what I am so people can look at both sides of the story, not just yours. This is the way I saw things, I had no reason to continue being honest with a group of people that I couldn't trust. Why would I ever tell you about who I really am again after you took the word of a completely random stranger over my own and didn't even care enough to give me the chance to confirm myself? I didn't "change", I was always the person I am today, and I do not lie to people that I consider friends who haven't broken my trust. And how am I supposed to believe you when you say you weren't around for the exchange? You did just call me by the false name after all, and I don't think the person that told me about what had happened has any reason to lie about it. As far as I'm concerned, there were no bridges left to burn, because you had already burned mine a long time prior.
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animefreak_usa wrote...
CSIS... like in Canadian State intelligence?Canadian Security Intelligence Service and yes.
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Trust on the internet huh. You must've been pretty close to care about each others identities to the point of kicking people out. Are things still the same in a team?
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Pyre wrote...
A user named Droomy contacted the group making false claims about my identity, I was told all of you believed that and lost trust in you after because no one decided to let me know what was happening, and apparently he didn't have to try that hard, only saying that he was willing to provide proof and not actually providing any. I didn't care about your opinions after I found out because you clearly didn't place any amount of trust in me anyways. After all the "good times", that was the way you guys decided to handle the situation. I felt like I had been stabbed in the back.Yeah, never heard about it. You're still treating the group as the entity. I never stopped trusting you, which is why to me you're nothing but a fucking liar, regardless of your reasoning.
Pyre wrote...
I'm not trying to victimize myself Waar, if you want it take it that way go ahead, I don't really care. I'm saying what I am so people can look at both sides of the story, not just yours. This is the way I saw things, I had no reason to continue being honest with a group of people that I couldn't trust. Why would I ever tell you about who I really am again after you took the word of a completely random stranger over my own and didn't even care enough to give me the chance to confirm myself? I didn't "change", I was always the person I am today, and I do not lie to people that I consider friends who haven't broken my trust. And how am I supposed to believe you when you say you weren't around for the exchange? You did just call me by the false name after all, and I don't think the person that told me about what had happened has any reason to lie about it. As far as I'm concerned, there were no bridges left to burn, because you had already burned mine a long time prior.So, someone comes into our group, falsely accuses you of being a giant fucking liar and you decide to prove him right and lie to us? Am I reading the situation correctly here Pyre? You sure are a dumb kid sometimes. False name? You mean Peter? That was a reference to Peter and the wolf(Don't cry wolf). I just don't get it, you're trying to make it sound like your actions were justified, and that you have some credibility while ignoring the fact that you started the lies. You want to clear up a problem with people? You talk to them, don't go and fucking make everything he said about you the truth. You mishandled the situation so why not accept the blame, your new friends don't care, and our past wont change their trust in you now.
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Tegumi
"im always cute"
Pyre wrote...
Waar wrote...
That being said, if you're a known liar when is it the right time to trust you? Peter.My name is what I said it is, and I can prove it. Feel free to add me on Skype if you want.
Your Skype just says "pyre--" to me.
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Waar wrote...
Yeah, never heard about it. You're still treating the group as the entity. I never stopped trusting you, which is why to me you're nothing but a fucking liar, regardless of your reasoning.I'm treating the group as an entity because I am literally referring to all of the people that were apart of it at the time. I think you're playing dumb.
Waar wrote...
I just don't get it, you're trying to make it sound like your actions were justified, and that you have some credibility while ignoring the fact that you started the lies.I never ignored the fact that I lied to you, and as far as I'm concerned my actions were justified. Or what? Do you decide what I justify as right and wrong?
Waar wrote...
You want to clear up a problem with people? You talk to them, don't go and fucking make everything he said about you the truth.How am I supposed to talk to you if you don't even tell me what's going on? As far as I was aware, you and everyone else in the group took Droomy's words as the truth, I didn't find out about it until a while after it happened. Clear up the problem? Do you think I would want to be buddy-buddy or care about such things after what happened?
To be quite frank Waar, I do not care what you think about me. You talk as if your thoughts about my integrity are supposed to hurt me somehow. Indirectly, they might, which is the only reason I spoke up about your claim.
Tegumi wrote...
Pyre wrote...
Waar wrote...
That being said, if you're a known liar when is it the right time to trust you? Peter.My name is what I said it is, and I can prove it. Feel free to add me on Skype if you want.
Your Skype just says "pyre--" to me.
I no longer remember the credentials for that account, so I'm using pyre.ohpyre now.
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Black Jesus JC wrote...
Guys,can we get back to talking about huge dicks?[1:33:05 AM] Sneakyone: mine isnt worth sending
[1:33:08 AM] Sneakyone: its so small
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As a girl, let me set this straight: all blowjobs make you have a sore jaw, doen't matter how big or small your dick is.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Hime_Takamura wrote...
As a girl, let me set this straight: all blowjobs make you have a sore jaw, doen't matter how big or small your dick is.Same with males and vagina... don't hear us complaining. WE LOVE YOU... we don't mind much.
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Hime_Takamura wrote...
As a girl, let me set this straight: all blowjobs make you have a sore jaw, doen't matter how big or small your dick is.Yep, she was just a bitch for using it as an excuse not to give me head.
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Tegumi
"im always cute"
Pyre wrote...
I no longer remember the credentials for that account, so I'm using pyre.ohpyre now.Welp
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Gravity cat wrote...
My girlfriend doesn't complain of an aching jaw post-blowjob. Does that mean I have a small dick?Also I need to go on Skype more often. [size=10]Gee, not like I haven't said that before[/h]
Just because I don't complain doesn't mean it doesn't hurt my jaw xD I just don't like complaining 😊
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Long answer in the spoiler, short answer at the bottom of the page.
What this all comes down to is you want me to stop calling you a liar because you believe your actions(telling lies) were justified, I don't agree with that assessment and so I will continue to call you a liar until you build a time machine and return to a time before you lied. Good luck Albert(just so you know I'm using an Albert Einstein reference here, not repeating someone elses lie).
Spoiler:
What this all comes down to is you want me to stop calling you a liar because you believe your actions(telling lies) were justified, I don't agree with that assessment and so I will continue to call you a liar until you build a time machine and return to a time before you lied. Good luck Albert(just so you know I'm using an Albert Einstein reference here, not repeating someone elses lie).
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Waar wrote...
So you're accusing me of being a liar then... amusing.No Waar, I would have called you out as a liar if I meant exactly that.
Waar wrote...
Yes, other people (me in this case) are capable of determining whether your actions are justifiable, and as I said, they are not. You may not like that call, and disagree with it wholeheartedly but your agreement has nothing to do with my actions, I will continue to act according to my judgement of the situation.What I am saying is that I perceive my own reality, and from my perception my own justification supersedes yours. You do not determine my justifications of the actions that I take for me.
Pyre wrote...
How am I supposed to talk to you if you don't even tell me what's going on? As far as I was aware, you and everyone else in the group took Droomy's words as the truth, I didn't find out about it until a while after it happened. Clear up the problem? Do you think I would want to be buddy-buddy or care about such things after what happened?Waar wrote...
You found out eventually right? And talking to us about it wasn't on the table at that point?Was talking about it on the table? No.
Droomy was someone that knew me personally, and took great lengths to try and ruin my life, this was not the only thing I had to deal with. I was not willing to cooperate with or trust anyone at that point in time, especially those who were associated with him in any way. Childish? Stupid? Being a selfish bitch? Call it what you will, I don't disagree. I did what I did because of the way I felt, it is not the first time I have acted irrationally and probably won't be the last, I have accepted this and have already moved on.
Waar wrote...
You're trying to defend yourself so I don't taint your reputation among others, I get that, so in essence you have to convince me to stop, otherwise you're not going to change anything. So you have to pick pyre, care about what I'm saying and attempt to change my opinion, or give up and get over the fact that I call you a liar almost every time we interact.No Waar, like I said this isn't about you. You don't have to stop calling me a liar, you're free to take whatever actions you choose and say whatever you want. The only thing I wanted is for people to be able to make judgements based on both sides of the spectrum, not just yours. I got what I wanted.
Waar wrote...
Still going to reiterate that I had no idea what was said by droomy.I trust the person who told me about what was happening wholeheartedly, if it weren't for them my life would be a complete wreck. It is possible the person who informed me about what was happening was misled. If what you say is true, and you really had no idea what was happening at the time, then I am sorry. That is all I will say because I still have no way of confirming your words.
Waar wrote...
So you have to pick pyre, care about what I'm saying and attempt to change my opinion, or give up and get over the fact that I call you a liar almost every time we interact.I would prefer it if we didn't have to interact poorly. For the most part I do not enjoy conflict, no matter who it's with or what kind of opinion I have of them. At the same time, I did lie, I never denied that, it's the truth and I have already moved on. Now that my side of the story is out there as well, there is nothing left for me to do. If you call me a liar it is not important, the point was never to get you to stop, only for people to see thing from both viewpoints and make their own judgements.
Am I going to care more about what you say and try to change your opinion? In order for either of our opinions to change, mine on what happened and yours of me as a liar, we need to interact as civil beings. Knowing you as a person you're very firm in your beliefs and stubborn when it comes to changing your opinion. Not that it's a bad thing. But, if you start every interaction off with a negative comment, and you're unwilling to let your own opinion change, I don't see how your opinion could possibly do so.
I can neither try to change your opinion or choose the way we interact with each other. In this scenario you have control, it is up to you what happens from now on, not me. I will continue doing what I am doing right now, living my life and socializing with people that want to interact with me. If you ever want to interact with me and open the chance for your opinion to improve, I have no qualms with that, maybe mine will change as well. 'til then and beyond, feel free to say and think what you want man.