I just became a christian so bye.
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artcellrox
The Grey Knight :y
zeroniv_legend wrote...
I'm a muslim and I visit this place.This, though I'm close to agnostic.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
artcellrox wrote...
zeroniv_legend wrote...
I'm a muslim and I visit this place.This, though I'm close to agnostic.
artcellrox wrote...
close to agnostic.artcellrox wrote...
agnostic.Come to the Gnostic side. We have no Victorian nor Judeo Christian concepts on sex.
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artcellrox
The Grey Knight :y
animefreak_usa wrote...
artcellrox wrote...
zeroniv_legend wrote...
I'm a muslim and I visit this place.This, though I'm close to agnostic.
artcellrox wrote...
close to agnostic.artcellrox wrote...
agnostic.Come to the Gnostic side. We have no Victorian nor Judeo Christian concepts on sex.
Meaning? What do you have then?
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Before you leave, please justify your belief. I want to hear your empirical, ontological, and metaphysical arguments laid out. Please, inform the infidel, as I seem to have extrapolated the wrong information somewhere in the many times I read your holy book in multiple versions to be sure I was correct in my thinking.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
artcellrox wrote...
animefreak_usa wrote...
artcellrox wrote...
zeroniv_legend wrote...
I'm a muslim and I visit this place.This, though I'm close to agnostic.
artcellrox wrote...
close to agnostic.artcellrox wrote...
agnostic.Come to the Gnostic side. We have no Victorian nor Judeo Christian concepts on sex.
Meaning? What do you have then?
Sex is Communion. No sin since Jesus died for your sins. No kiddie fucking by our priest. No Celibacy.
Downside... more reading since the bible has over 100 parts and fasting. WE DON'T EAT AT ALL.
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I'll make my challenge simpler, provide empirical evidence that a God is a necessary element to reality and shouldn't be discarded by Ockham's Razor before any real speculation can begin.
Edit: As I am going to sleep if anyone has any meaningfully answers to my challenge please PM me, or post in my Infidel's club topic. If and eventually when, a theist can provide a meaningful answer I will gladly debate them. I will leave this out here though to all followers of Jesus, and that is that at its very core the idea of vicarious redemption is immoral to put matters mildly. It is beyond scapegoating, it is darker and far more sinister than one thinks, at least before they think critically. If I kvetch you I can pay off your debts, if I love you a great deal I can even offer to serve your time in jail, but your sins and responsibilities I cannot and should not absolve you. It would be immoral of myself to offer and more so if you were to accept. How is the vicarious redemption through this Jesus fellow any better?
Edit: As I am going to sleep if anyone has any meaningfully answers to my challenge please PM me, or post in my Infidel's club topic. If and eventually when, a theist can provide a meaningful answer I will gladly debate them. I will leave this out here though to all followers of Jesus, and that is that at its very core the idea of vicarious redemption is immoral to put matters mildly. It is beyond scapegoating, it is darker and far more sinister than one thinks, at least before they think critically. If I kvetch you I can pay off your debts, if I love you a great deal I can even offer to serve your time in jail, but your sins and responsibilities I cannot and should not absolve you. It would be immoral of myself to offer and more so if you were to accept. How is the vicarious redemption through this Jesus fellow any better?
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animefreak_usa wrote...
artcellrox wrote...
animefreak_usa wrote...
artcellrox wrote...
zeroniv_legend wrote...
I'm a muslim and I visit this place.This, though I'm close to agnostic.
artcellrox wrote...
close to agnostic.artcellrox wrote...
agnostic.Come to the Gnostic side. We have no Victorian nor Judeo Christian concepts on sex.
Meaning? What do you have then?
Sex is Communion. No sin since Jesus died for your sins. No kiddie fucking by our priest. No Celibacy.
Downside... more reading since the bible has over 100 parts and fasting. WE DON'T EAT AT ALL.
That means I can't be a priest that fits the stereotypes.

