I need to rant. (COD: Black OPs)
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Fuck you Treyarch, fuck you an your research staff.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the game does have a portion set in the Vietnam War, right?
Well...they fucked-up a pretty big detail!
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Where do I begin? At no point in the entirety of the Vietnam War was ever a 11.5" barreled M-16 variant fielded. Eugene Stoner would have killed half the Pentagon and the weapon would have been shit (with a 1-12 twist barrel and Vietnam-era M193 loadings). Furthermore, every single M-16 upper receiver back then had the integrated carry-handle and A1 style rear sights, not a fucking flat-top and a flip-BUIS! Jesus Christ! The notion of a universal optics mounting system, let alone the 1913 Picatinny rail, was even conceived at that point! They wanted to mount the Colt 4x20 scope, that's fine, that's period-kosher, but do it how the US Army did, on the fukkin' carry handle! Fuck!
Sigh...At least the got one thing right and rendered the upper receivers without the forward-assist. (And I know it's Vietnam-Era solely because of the lack of FA's on the guns!)
Fuck Treyarch. First the COD franchise gets raped with geopolitical weapons inaccuracy, and now historical context issues? God damn...
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the game does have a portion set in the Vietnam War, right?
Well...they fucked-up a pretty big detail!
Spoiler:
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Where do I begin? At no point in the entirety of the Vietnam War was ever a 11.5" barreled M-16 variant fielded. Eugene Stoner would have killed half the Pentagon and the weapon would have been shit (with a 1-12 twist barrel and Vietnam-era M193 loadings). Furthermore, every single M-16 upper receiver back then had the integrated carry-handle and A1 style rear sights, not a fucking flat-top and a flip-BUIS! Jesus Christ! The notion of a universal optics mounting system, let alone the 1913 Picatinny rail, was even conceived at that point! They wanted to mount the Colt 4x20 scope, that's fine, that's period-kosher, but do it how the US Army did, on the fukkin' carry handle! Fuck!
Sigh...At least the got one thing right and rendered the upper receivers without the forward-assist. (And I know it's Vietnam-Era solely because of the lack of FA's on the guns!)
Fuck Treyarch. First the COD franchise gets raped with geopolitical weapons inaccuracy, and now historical context issues? God damn...
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Guilty Guardian wrote...
I'm done with COD altogether.I'm not saying I hate the game, MW2 was tits drizzled with caramel, it's just that the weapons were painfully inaccurate from a geopolitical stance. And now Black Ops threatens to do the same from a historical perspective. I think I even saw a SPAS-12 in the Vietnam part.
Spoiler:
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Nashrakh
Little White Butterflies Staff
I don't think your average COD gamer is interested in any accuracy whatsoever to begin with =\
Like the whole health thing, actually. Go hide somewhere and wait until you get restored to full health, fuck yeah.
(And I don't think most people would even notice, I guess)
Like the whole health thing, actually. Go hide somewhere and wait until you get restored to full health, fuck yeah.
(And I don't think most people would even notice, I guess)
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Nashrakh wrote...
I don't think your average COD gamer is interested in any accuracy whatsoever to begin with =\Like the whole health thing, actually. Go hide somewhere and wait until you get restored to full health, fuck yeah.
(And I don't think most people would even notice, I guess)
Well, if there wasn't that health retoring system, you would die every three seconds.The fact that you can take an amazing amount of bullet is also very realistic.
I guess I'd rather have something like health restoring places, like in ...hum Half Life for example.
And about weapons, I didn't really care, as long as you know, killing people and stuff...though fighting with a Famas was pretty funny...(since I'm french).
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Shouldn't this be in the Video Game section?
That is a pretty major flaw though, and I'm glad to see someone else here is educated about the history of guns(and guns in particular). However, what more can you expect from Craptivision and Faggotward?
Fix'd.
That is a pretty major flaw though, and I'm glad to see someone else here is educated about the history of guns(and guns in particular). However, what more can you expect from Craptivision and Faggotward?
otakumax wrote...
I blame activision, they just haaad to ruin infinity ward. Vivendi games which bought out Blizzard and Activision which created Activision-Blizzard, which introduced a new level of "Do it our way, no matter what the developers say." which completely destroyed Infinity Ward because they fired some of their best minds for not co-operating with them.Fix'd.
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well COD4 was accurate enough... but i noted this too..... if they did push through with the game design..... then go to treyarch studios, go to the research section, and whack them with the M16/A1 using the butt of the gun.... if i get to see the L85 thar.... im happy....
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COD is only in it for the cash now, With Black Ops coming out this early, I find they are just pulling games out to fast and its all going to hype (just like mw2).
MoH on the other hand....
But aside from a game that will rape cod...
They are simply trying to make the game more enjoyable with unrealistic designs and guns that were not invented at that era, Cod. You have ruined fps for me.
MoH on the other hand....
But aside from a game that will rape cod...
They are simply trying to make the game more enjoyable with unrealistic designs and guns that were not invented at that era, Cod. You have ruined fps for me.
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smashspite wrote...
COD is only in it for the cash now, With Black Ops coming out this early, I find they are just pulling games out to fast and its all going to hype (just like mw2). MoH on the other hand....
But aside from a game that will rape cod...
They are simply trying to make the game more enjoyable with unrealistic designs and guns that were not invented at that era, Cod. You have ruined fps for me.
unlike MOH they stick to history.... COD tries to make it realistic..... but some doubt the authenticity of the gameplay.... its like 'you want realistic? we'll give you realistic.... close to it" for them after developing COD4 and the newest in near realistic, MW2.....
@sv51macross: yup... that WAS a SPAS 12.....
but look at it this way... its SUPPOSED to be black ops..... is NOT written in history.... we dont know if they did hold those guns..... the weapon introduction in history might be true to the outside..... the shotgun used for VW i think was a remington one.... dont blame teh designers since they want you to experience BLACK OPS..... most COD games focus on what happened IN THE CURRENT HISTORY.... this.... is..... how they rewrite the black op history....
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Guilty Guardian wrote...
ListenGears of War > COD (xbox)
Umm *insert game for ps3* Uncharted 2,
Fixed.
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Wait, wait, wait, niggas, back the fuck up.
All this bitching at treyarch just because the fuckers didn't use the guns you'd expect? Maybe if they were using a fucking laser cannon, but god damn.
Nigga, you anal.
Where do I begin? At no point in the entirety of the Vietnam War was ever a 11.5" barreled M-16 variant fielded. Eugene Stoner would have killed half the Pentagon and the weapon would have been shit (with a 1-12 twist barrel and Vietnam-era M193 loadings). Furthermore, every single M-16 upper receiver back then had the integrated carry-handle and A1 style rear sights, not a fucking flat-top and a flip-BUIS! Jesus Christ!
All this bitching at treyarch just because the fuckers didn't use the guns you'd expect? Maybe if they were using a fucking laser cannon, but god damn.
Nigga, you anal.
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Gameplay > Historical Accuracy.
Also, Black Ops is set during the Cold War. So, 1947-1991.
So, you don't know at what time those scenes are even taking place.
Also, Black Ops is set during the Cold War. So, 1947-1991.
So, you don't know at what time those scenes are even taking place.
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HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW THAT SCENE IS FROM THE NAM PORTION OF THE GAME?????????????????????????????????????
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Animeholic wrote...
Gameplay > Historical Accuracy. Also, Black Ops is set during the Cold War. So, 1947-1991.
So, you don't know at what time those scenes are even taking place.
My understanding was that there was a Vietnam portion. The thick jungle was the biggest indicator for me. As late as 91 though...
Okay, the predecessor of the 1913 Picatinny rail was around during that period, but it was , FAIAP, useless as it was just a concept, very rarely used. And even black-ops wouldn't have used it because they would have just fabricated a special mount anyway.
ZeKeR wrote...
@sv51macross: yup... that WAS a SPAS 12.....
but look at it this way... its SUPPOSED to be black ops..... is NOT written in history.... we dont know if they did hold those guns..... the weapon introduction in history might be true to the outside..... the shotgun used for VW i think was a remington one.... dont blame teh designers since they want you to experience BLACK OPS..... most COD games focus on what happened IN THE CURRENT HISTORY.... this.... is..... how they rewrite the black op history....
I think I get what you're saying, but still,I doubt that black ops would have used the SPAS-12 even if it was secretly developed and used by the military, and then shown later to the public. The SPAS-12 is a horrendously complicated and hard-to-use shotgun, and after a few hundred rounds the safety would wear-out to the point where if you dropped it with a shell in the chamber it would go off.
RBZ Wrote
Nigga, you anal.
Wouldn't 'Wigga' be more appropriate? Though yes, anal is an incredibly complete and accurate description of me.
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sv51macross wrote...
Wouldn't 'Wigga' be more appropriate? Though yes, anal is an incredibly complete and accurate description of me.No, nigga applies, as I attach no race to that word.
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Nashrakh wrote...
I don't think your average COD gamer is interested in any accuracy whatsoever to begin with =\Like the whole health thing, actually. Go hide somewhere and wait until you get restored to full health, fuck yeah.
(And I don't think most people would even notice, I guess)
which are again?
the best ones are usually nerds... and if they are guns nerds then yes, they do care