Just discovered I don't like NTR
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So usually I don't have a problem with it, e.g. "oh but I'm married but we can have sex nbd"
it's fine it's whatever
But now I'm reading Drive Your Nightmare by Kiasa.
Slight spoilers I guess, but if you don't care: 2 guys and a girl are out on a trip or something. They're on their way back in a van, and they decide to stop for some sleep. The main character has a crush on the girl (who's a tomboy, so he doesn't really see her sexually I guess), and while they're asleep, she starts blowing him. Later, she says they "always" do this, and then he realizes it's not him she was going for, but the other guy. That, and they've always been doing it.
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It just... got to me. Almost killed my boner. I guess this is really "good" NTR? I've honestly never been affected, positively or negatively, by a hentai manga. I'm pretty impressed it was able to do this.
it's fine it's whatever
But now I'm reading Drive Your Nightmare by Kiasa.
Slight spoilers I guess, but if you don't care: 2 guys and a girl are out on a trip or something. They're on their way back in a van, and they decide to stop for some sleep. The main character has a crush on the girl (who's a tomboy, so he doesn't really see her sexually I guess), and while they're asleep, she starts blowing him. Later, she says they "always" do this, and then he realizes it's not him she was going for, but the other guy. That, and they've always been doing it.
End spoilers
It just... got to me. Almost killed my boner. I guess this is really "good" NTR? I've honestly never been affected, positively or negatively, by a hentai manga. I'm pretty impressed it was able to do this.
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artcellrox
The Grey Knight :y
Lemalas wrote...
you guys are missing the entire point of the power of NTRNo, we're not. Most of us have been here long enough and read/seen enough hentai to not feel anything from NTR anymore, because we know they're just fictitious stories, and most of us have also been here long enough to tell you that this is not the first time, or second, or even the fucking hundredth time someone on the forums has expressed their disinterest in hentai.
We're not missing any point. If anything, you probably need more desensitization.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
artcellrox wrote...
Lemalas wrote...
you guys are missing the entire point of the power of NTRNo, we're not. Most of us have been here long enough and read/seen enough hentai to not feel anything from NTR anymore, because we know they're just fictitious stories, and most of us have also been here long enough to tell you that this is not the first time, or second, or even the fucking hundredth time someone on the forums has expressed their disinterest in hentai.
We're not missing any point. If anything, you probably need more desensitization.
I can't get a boner without hate rage and tears.
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But yes, you are missing the point lol
I'm not disinterested at all. It fascinates me. People often put little effort into the characters of hentai and it's usually whatever, but this mangaka really managed to rile me up. It was unexpected, well-timed and executed, and totally effective.
Saying I don't like NTR doesn't mean I want nothing to do with it, it's like saying I don't want a character from an anime to die. Long as the author makes it good, it's good.
I'm not disinterested at all. It fascinates me. People often put little effort into the characters of hentai and it's usually whatever, but this mangaka really managed to rile me up. It was unexpected, well-timed and executed, and totally effective.
Saying I don't like NTR doesn't mean I want nothing to do with it, it's like saying I don't want a character from an anime to die. Long as the author makes it good, it's good.
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I have the perfect remedy for you :D.
Search Ozaken's Believe Machine.
Trust me, you'll be enveloped in so much happiness and sweetness, you'll not fap to this but read it for the story.
Search Ozaken's Believe Machine.
Trust me, you'll be enveloped in so much happiness and sweetness, you'll not fap to this but read it for the story.
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yurixhentai
desu
Lemalas wrote...
Saying I don't like NTR doesn't mean I want nothing to do with it.Spoiler:
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Lemalas wrote...
But yes, you are missing the point lolI'm not disinterested at all. It fascinates me. People often put little effort into the characters of hentai and it's usually whatever, but this mangaka really managed to rile me up. It was unexpected, well-timed and executed, and totally effective.
Saying I don't like NTR doesn't mean I want nothing to do with it, it's like saying I don't want a character from an anime to die. Long as the author makes it good, it's good.
NTR has no point. It's just a type of story. It's your business how you want to enjoy it.
People enjoy NTR from 6 different viewpoints:
1. Masochism - they enjoy identification with the person being stolen from
2. Sadism - they enjoy identification with the person who steals and from seeing someone (the victim and/or the target) in pain
3. Conquest - they enjoy identification with the person who steals and from taking what is someone else's "property" and making it their own
4. Manslut/Slut without fault - they enjoy identification with the person being stolen who enjoys the best sexual (or financial, emotional, psychological) experience in their life even when they don't want it
5. Feminism - No one owns anybody. The reader enjoys reading people being released from the shackles of patriarchal dominance (i.e. marriage or normal marriage). Basically, sexual liberation from common societal norms.
6. Third Party Preference - something similar to feminism, it is instead the inherent desire of people to read about fantasies or see it take form, things that normally do not occur in their lives, but in a way that won't hurt anyone. This is the same idea behind people who watch tv dramas, action films, and telenovelas.
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2...........aaaaanyway as said above NTR is a genre, and a genre can come with extremes, just because you don't like one instance doesnt mean you dislike the entire genre.
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shinshuuko wrote...
2...........aaaaanyway as said above NTR is a genre, and a genre can come with extremes, just because you don't like one instance doesnt mean you dislike the entire genre.Very true. This spectrum is why a lot of people in Fakku like NTR already, they just don't know it. When they read "cheating" stories, for example, they are already enjoying NTR.
It kinda sucks that the Western aggregate tagging system is really obliterating the meaning of NTR for the newcomers.
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Lemalas wrote...
It just... got to me. Almost killed my boner. I guess this is really "good" NTR? I've honestly never been affected, positively or negatively, by a hentai manga. I'm pretty impressed it was able to do this.I'm gonna set the record straight here and tell you, that wasn't NTR. It might qualify as cheating on the girls part, since she got the wrong dick, but MC and the girl are nothing more than friends. In this case MC did not act on his feelings soon enough, or developed them after the fact. Sure it may suck for MC but just because something isn't vanilla doesn't mean it's automatically NTR or anything like that.
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Lemalas wrote...
Slight spoilers I guess, but if you don't care: 2 guys and a girl are out on a trip or something. They're on their way back in a van, and they decide to stop for some sleep. The main character has a crush on the girl (who's a tomboy, so he doesn't really see her sexually I guess), and while they're asleep, she starts blowing him. Later, she says they "always" do this, and then he realizes it's not him she was going for, but the other guy. That, and they've always been doing it.Coincidentally, I just checked that out a minute ago. For those curious, give it a read!
It's good stuff, no one's really considered a "villain" so it's kind of neat.
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Hoorah for deconstruction! Hoorah!
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Since you don't like netorare can I assume you also do not like netori? Since the situation is EXACTLY the same, just drawn from a different point of view.
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If it give you emotion that u dont like it, congratulation! it was effective to you.
I know when to watch NTR story in hentai so i alway FAP before watch the story. That way should give you a comfortable and calm down when u dont get much effects from horny, especially NTR where main girl/boy get horny and raped by bad peoples.
Basically, i dont like NTR too. I cant even get a boner like animefreak_usa but if NTR gives me a good lesson and emotion to hate it, i will say i dont like it but a hentai cant be determined by story, it still have some values to FAP like art so its just a reason why i should keep it and store it in other folders.
Anyway most people come to hentai for FAPing but if u watch the story, its still like a normal manga, novel, anime with 18+ complicated stuff and relative to real-life. In my case, hate NTR doesnt mean i should abandon that hentai ~degozaru. If it have some important to value to me beside FAP, it's still a good hentai product.
P/S: Just my opinion.
I know when to watch NTR story in hentai so i alway FAP before watch the story. That way should give you a comfortable and calm down when u dont get much effects from horny, especially NTR where main girl/boy get horny and raped by bad peoples.
Basically, i dont like NTR too. I cant even get a boner like animefreak_usa but if NTR gives me a good lesson and emotion to hate it, i will say i dont like it but a hentai cant be determined by story, it still have some values to FAP like art so its just a reason why i should keep it and store it in other folders.
Anyway most people come to hentai for FAPing but if u watch the story, its still like a normal manga, novel, anime with 18+ complicated stuff and relative to real-life. In my case, hate NTR doesnt mean i should abandon that hentai ~degozaru. If it have some important to value to me beside FAP, it's still a good hentai product.
P/S: Just my opinion.
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shinshuuko wrote...
Since you don't like netorare can I assume you also do not like netori? Since the situation is EXACTLY the same, just drawn from a different point of view.This. I'd like to see what people think here about netori. Because netori is also NTR, it's just the "main character/character you insert in/character you identify with that is not the woman" doing the NTRing.
Like with the latest game work [α-MODEL] Ossan Kyoushi no Joshikousei Tsuma ga Yarichin Danshi ni Netorareru Hanashi. What we have there is a fat man who has his wife getting stolen by a good looking guy. For all intents and purposes, this is a netorare story. It's even in the title. That said, if people read this and work through the angle of the good looking manslut who fucks the wife, then it becomes a netori story even if it isn't. Some people would just call that in this site and other Western-based collection sites as "cheating" when virtually all categories of cheating, if not all of it, falls under NTR.
That is basically why the Japanese use ntr/netorare/netori/netoru on almost an interchangeable manner. The difference between the word is paper thin and is only based on perspectives.
