loli. is it worth the fight
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Yes. Loli must live on. It just has too. Just imagine what would happen to the world ( Especially on Fakku! ) when Lolicon will become 'extinct'.
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Nashrakh
Little White Butterflies Staff
Anomalouse wrote...
Where are you guys finding shotaro porn? I've never found any... not that I've looked.What kind of shota are you looking for? I can hook you up, lol.
If you're looking for yaoi shota, look up Po-Ju or have a look at this.
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Nashrakh wrote...
What kind of shota are you looking for? I can hook you up, lol. If you're looking for yaoi shota, look up Po-Ju or have a look at this.
Any kind, link me up beeyotch.
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Nashrakh
Little White Butterflies Staff
Anomalouse wrote...
Nashrakh wrote...
What kind of shota are you looking for? I can hook you up, lol. If you're looking for yaoi shota, look up Po-Ju or have a look at this.
Any kind, link me up beeyotch.
http://doujinland.com/category/shota/
As a first address, this is a pretty big archive of shota stuff. Pick what you like.
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Ok, I just got around to looking at Near-Future Academy, I actually already had that first chapter in un-translated form, too many gaping holes and urethra pegging, I'm normally all over kinky shit but those are actually the two things that completely turn me off...
I'll look into some of the other stuff.
I'll look into some of the other stuff.
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It's worth the fight. It must live on. It's my favorite genre. I don't get why people get so hyped up about this. It's fiction. Do people get hurt by fiction? No. Unless you're some type of delusional fool that can feel the emotions of fictional people, you ain't feeling what characters in fiction are feeling. No real kids were hurt.
If they say "This influences child pr0n and raep and must be b&", that's bullshit. Why don't they ban games and other stuff where [fictional] animals are hurt in killed? MuMORPeGerS are an example. Some quests put you in situations where you have to kill baby seals, bunnies and pandas to get 't3h 3xp & g01d' and 'phat l00t'. Why don't they pay attention to those things, too?
If they say "This influences child pr0n and raep and must be b&", that's bullshit. Why don't they ban games and other stuff where [fictional] animals are hurt in killed? MuMORPeGerS are an example. Some quests put you in situations where you have to kill baby seals, bunnies and pandas to get 't3h 3xp & g01d' and 'phat l00t'. Why don't they pay attention to those things, too?
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I fully support the SOL (Save Our Lolis) and think that targeting the intangible is pretty stupid. If wanting to see Mina Tepes suck on more than just blood is wrong, than I don't wanna be right. In all seriousness though, I don't see how this is anymore dangerous than toy guns, horror movies, death metal or any other thing a bunch of crusaders want taken out of sight, out of mind.
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What moral fags can't undertsand that hentai is FAKE
When they disect someone there, noone is harmed for real.
When they gangrape an 8 year old little girl, that's not real.
When a loli is getting fucked by a horse, there is no actual bestility, that's fake too.
Moral fags can go suck cock hard, the're such a pain in the ass...
When they disect someone there, noone is harmed for real.
When they gangrape an 8 year old little girl, that's not real.
When a loli is getting fucked by a horse, there is no actual bestility, that's fake too.
Moral fags can go suck cock hard, the're such a pain in the ass...
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bfg10k17 wrote...
What moral fags can't undertsand that hentai is FAKEYou miss the point entirely. In fact, it's more than likely people like you that piss off the opposition so much. Because you see it as simply a harmless image with nothing wrong with it. While I can respect your capacity of looking at things like that so indifferently, any self-respecting adult is a person of principle.
Fake or not, images that depict any of the things you suggested are intended to resemble reality. What these 'moral fags' want to point out is that someone somewhere might just be inspired to make their dream of dissecting some 8 year old girl a reality. Believe me when I say, things like that have happened already. That's why those 'cock sucking moral fags' fight to ban them, because some people just don't know where to draw the line. It's a matter of principle for people on both sides.
For example, lets say that within my collection of hentai, is an h-manga of some kidnapped girl (loli or no) that is going to be either raped mercilessly and/or tortured and mutilated. Now, you say that there is nothing wrong with this, because it's just fake images right? But what if it was real? What if something like that really happened, and in your own neighborhood? Some people really make no distinction between those 'harmless' mangas, and real life. That's why some moralists fight, because humans are quite capable of doing horrendous things to each other, and when children are involved, you bet your ass there is going to be an outrage.
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tswarthog
The Iconoclast
oneshott wrote...
bfg10k17 wrote...
What moral fags can't undertsand that hentai is FAKEYou miss the point entirely. In fact, it's more than likely people like you that piss off the opposition so much. Because you see it as simply a harmless image with nothing wrong with it. While I can respect your capacity of looking at things like that so indifferently, any self-respecting adult is a person of principle.
Fake or not, images that depict any of the things you suggested are intended to resemble reality. What these 'moral fags' want to point out is that someone somewhere might just be inspired to make their dream of dissecting some 8 year old girl a reality. Believe me when I say, things like that have happened already. That's why those 'cock sucking moral fags' fight to ban them, because some people just don't know where to draw the line. It's a matter of principle for people on both sides.
For example, lets say that within my collection of hentai, is an h-manga of some kidnapped girl (loli or no) that is going to be either raped mercilessly and/or tortured and mutilated. Now, you say that there is nothing wrong with this, because it's just fake images right? But what if it was real? What if something like that really happened, and in your own neighborhood? Some people really make no distinction between those 'harmless' mangas, and real life. That's why some moralists fight, because humans are quite capable of doing horrendous things to each other, and when children are involved, you bet your ass there is going to be an outrage.
Well their goes everything I wanted to say.....*sheds a tear* nicely put
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To be clear; I am absolutely against the censorship and/or removal of lolicon, but only as a matter of principal...and practicality. Just because it is illegal in a country does not mean it is impossible to obtain it. It's just too much effort to try and censor the internet. To do so effectively would encroach on most peoples privacy.
Think 1984, but just on the internet
Think 1984, but just on the internet
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Nashrakh
Little White Butterflies Staff
oneshott wrote...
That's why some moralists fight, because humans are quite capable of doing horrendous things to each other, and when children are involved, you bet your ass there is going to be an outrage.I find it funny that those are also the same people that think owning guns is totally ok. Hypocrisy much?
Edit: To clarify my point further - I think those guys are biased, to say the least. These depictions are still only fictional. Condemning them just because they include situations that COULD be real just doesn't cut it. I think right now, there are worse things contributing to someone having a violent outburst - but fixing those would be too much of a hassle and some people fighting against loli and stuff would then have to give up on things they "enjoy" themselves, like sexism , domestic violence and guns in every house.
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oneshott wrote...
That's why some moralists fight, because humans are quite capable of doing horrendous things to each other, and when children are involved, you bet your ass there is going to be an outrage.People do horrendous things all the time, even if they dun like loli, or rape and without the influence of media at all.
I mean what, if someone drinks a glass of milk and then kills someone by drowning them in milk, does that mean it was the milk that made him do it? Should we ban milk then?
Also, there is nothing saying or showing that people who watches porn with a rape theme rapes other people more often, nor that people watching loli becomes pedophiles, that is just unjustified ands uncontrolled fear. That is just an excuse to be a "moral fag".
I say that this is not a fight to give up, the freedom of imagination is pretty damn important to me. And what, if I decide to draw a naked, underage character getting raped, will that be illegal? To draw a fucking picture? Or is it just to watch it, should I close my eyes as soon as I've finished the drawing, or burn it or w/e?
This entire debate is ridiculous and probably brought up by "moral fags" that most likely feel guilty for their own perverse thoughts and wants to force them on to others since they won't be able to control themselves otherwise.
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oneshott wrote...
bfg10k17 wrote...
What moral fags can't undertsand that hentai is FAKEYou miss the point entirely. In fact, it's more than likely people like you that piss off the opposition so much. Because you see it as simply a harmless image with nothing wrong with it. While I can respect your capacity of looking at things like that so indifferently, any self-respecting adult is a person of principle.
Fake or not, images that depict any of the things you suggested are intended to resemble reality. What these 'moral fags' want to point out is that someone somewhere might just be inspired to make their dream of dissecting some 8 year old girl a reality. Believe me when I say, things like that have happened already. That's why those 'cock sucking moral fags' fight to ban them, because some people just don't know where to draw the line. It's a matter of principle for people on both sides.
For example, lets say that within my collection of hentai, is an h-manga of some kidnapped girl (loli or no) that is going to be either raped mercilessly and/or tortured and mutilated. Now, you say that there is nothing wrong with this, because it's just fake images right? But what if it was real? What if something like that really happened, and in your own neighborhood? Some people really make no distinction between those 'harmless' mangas, and real life. That's why some moralists fight, because humans are quite capable of doing horrendous things to each other, and when children are involved, you bet your ass there is going to be an outrage.
Why should all of us perfectly sane loli enthusiasts have to deal with our loli being banned just because a few crazy people can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality?
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oneshott wrote...
bfg10k17 wrote...
What moral fags can't undertsand that hentai is FAKEFor example, lets say that within my collection of hentai, is an h-manga of some kidnapped girl (loli or no) that is going to be either raped mercilessly and/or tortured and mutilated. Now, you say that there is nothing wrong with this, because it's just fake images right? But what if it was real?
Okay, let me start with the argument that child pornography is not illegal because because of the immorality innate to a certain pixel allignment or how light conforms on a photographic sheet, it's because the creation of it is a horrible atrocity. Obviously the creation is a crime, but what about simple possession? It's because if people are afraid to own such images, then it is much more difficult to sell them. With an increased difficulty in sale, then there is less incentive to create it in the first place.
However, if the creation of an image involves someone hunched over a drawing board with a pencil and eraser in hand, I think I'm willing to support the atrocity of potential hand-cramps.
Fake or not, images that depict any of the things you suggested are intended to resemble reality.
Right, because when you're in 5th grade, and they split up all the boys and girls to tell them about the changes that are happening to their bodies, or will soon start happening, they have a list of things such as
1)You start growing hair in new places
2)Your voice starts to deepen
3)Your eyes start shrinking
I can symphathize and possibly even agree with a ban on creative video splicing and near-photorealistic 3d renders which are intended to simulate reality. However, once again, it has little to the immorality of pixel configuration, and the fact that I don't think law enforcement should have to bother themselves with the nuance of whether something has a 95% chance of being criminal vs. 90% chance of being criminal.
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Timeenforceranubis wrote...
Why should all of us perfectly sane loli enthusiasts have to deal with our loli being banned just because a few crazy people can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality?
Because when you, or something you would stand for is in the cross-hair, just one fuck up from some idiot who says he's with the same group as you can ruin it for everyone
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I like all sorts of Ero-anime and this includes a bit of DFC! It's not a primary preference really, but I still enjoy it from time to time. As for something you like being targeted because of a few bad apples, there's no real avoiding this. You can name tons of things this happens to (video games, music, porn, guns etc.) and continues to be a pain in the ass for any fans of said item(s). I understand the intent/good intentions of some of the moral crusaders, but think they are ultimately wasting their time and efforts that could be spent elsewhere... perhaps nabbing those Vatican guys that actually did things to kids?
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oneshott wrote...
Timeenforceranubis wrote...
Why should all of us perfectly sane loli enthusiasts have to deal with our loli being banned just because a few crazy people can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality?
Because when you, or something you would stand for is in the cross-hair, just one fuck up from some idiot who says he's with the same group as you can ruin it for everyone
So, I should just bend over and take it because one crazy person decided to do some stupid shit and then say "I love loli"? That's absurd. Loli's just an easy scapegoat, and I'll be damned if I accept this scapegoating of an artistic genre that I quite enjoy, and that, let's face it, is completely harmless in the hands of rational, well-adjusted people.