Netorare stories are not innoative
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Alright, This is directed at you Netorare fanatics!
I used to be one of you, however after browsing through the majority of NTR artist I've come to the conclusion that this genre is way less original than gore , tentacle and even vanilla!
Take for instance the false vanilla con artists, they try to draw you in only to ruin what could've been quite a good story. Well it's pointless after all since they're catering to a group who's only after the ugly sides of things. IMHO they should be liable to tell the reader beforehand that the plot has a NTR twist (even if it's 10 chapters in) Well they can only fool the reader once since the artist gets the troll stamp.
For all you who wished the ntr route on pure vanilla stories: Dude just no, the scenery wouldn't have been better or anything and you already got plenty of more hardcore stuff just around the corner that doesn't need this farce to get things done.
So what's the point with the over use of ugly/fat/old/hairy/deliquent/interracial stereotype/weird stealers? I be like "alright the art is great & the females are smoking hot: dammit! the villain makes my eyes bleed!" The fat otaku needs an vacation!
I don't believe in the whole "get disgusted to be aroused" Seems more like an eyesore to me, a good deal of NTR stories would've been quite fappable if it had not been for the vile stealer.
Just seems like artist like to resort to NTR with ugly stealers because it's quick cash & a growing group of morons, well I call it being a sell out much like games turning into action fps.
NTR could've been alright if not for all the pretense and the things I brought up, it's not like everything should be banned but I still think this is a phase that needs to blow over.
Like how many more times does the artist figure we want see the crying beta male and pig rendered female who verbally abuse her former love interesst while being out of character. It's just outright silly. Japan you don't need top each other all the time.
Off course this is just another stupid rant but please stop claiming that NTR is new and original.
tl;dr : NTR isn't the hottest shit, you all know it's just an extension of rape with cases of the victorious villain. Spoiler: it's not renovating or fresh at all.
I'm done! INB4 "Cool story bro" & "watch out we got a badass over here!" "Wall of text" OH hai trollz!
I used to be one of you, however after browsing through the majority of NTR artist I've come to the conclusion that this genre is way less original than gore , tentacle and even vanilla!
Take for instance the false vanilla con artists, they try to draw you in only to ruin what could've been quite a good story. Well it's pointless after all since they're catering to a group who's only after the ugly sides of things. IMHO they should be liable to tell the reader beforehand that the plot has a NTR twist (even if it's 10 chapters in) Well they can only fool the reader once since the artist gets the troll stamp.
For all you who wished the ntr route on pure vanilla stories: Dude just no, the scenery wouldn't have been better or anything and you already got plenty of more hardcore stuff just around the corner that doesn't need this farce to get things done.
So what's the point with the over use of ugly/fat/old/hairy/deliquent/interracial stereotype/weird stealers? I be like "alright the art is great & the females are smoking hot: dammit! the villain makes my eyes bleed!" The fat otaku needs an vacation!
I don't believe in the whole "get disgusted to be aroused" Seems more like an eyesore to me, a good deal of NTR stories would've been quite fappable if it had not been for the vile stealer.
Just seems like artist like to resort to NTR with ugly stealers because it's quick cash & a growing group of morons, well I call it being a sell out much like games turning into action fps.
NTR could've been alright if not for all the pretense and the things I brought up, it's not like everything should be banned but I still think this is a phase that needs to blow over.
Like how many more times does the artist figure we want see the crying beta male and pig rendered female who verbally abuse her former love interesst while being out of character. It's just outright silly. Japan you don't need top each other all the time.
Off course this is just another stupid rant but please stop claiming that NTR is new and original.
tl;dr : NTR isn't the hottest shit, you all know it's just an extension of rape with cases of the victorious villain. Spoiler: it's not renovating or fresh at all.
I'm done! INB4 "Cool story bro" & "watch out we got a badass over here!" "Wall of text" OH hai trollz!
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623
FAKKU QA
I want to see links of people lauding NTR as "innoative," "renovating," and original and then maybe I'll believe this rant. I've been on this site for a while and I never see people raving about NTR. If anything, they do it to troll vanillafags because vanillafags are so retarded and uptight.
And I don't get it--you talk about the villain making your eyes bleed and there being a "vile stealer", but there are people who like scat and guro. Do those not offend your delicate sensibilities? Or how about bestiality? Is a dog or pig better than a fat otaku?
Not to mention, NTR stories by default have more constraints on them than, say, vanilla. Vanilla stories just have to have nice, consensual sex. There are a million ways to set that up. A 12-year old could do it. Which means you have more flexibility to make the surrounding plot more "creative" I guess. In order to set up a somewhat realistic NTR scenario is much more difficult. Actual relationships are involved. So get off your high horse and put your rage boner away.
And I don't get it--you talk about the villain making your eyes bleed and there being a "vile stealer", but there are people who like scat and guro. Do those not offend your delicate sensibilities? Or how about bestiality? Is a dog or pig better than a fat otaku?
Not to mention, NTR stories by default have more constraints on them than, say, vanilla. Vanilla stories just have to have nice, consensual sex. There are a million ways to set that up. A 12-year old could do it. Which means you have more flexibility to make the surrounding plot more "creative" I guess. In order to set up a somewhat realistic NTR scenario is much more difficult. Actual relationships are involved. So get off your high horse and put your rage boner away.
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Can't think of a single time when anyone has called NTR innovative or original, it is, like most things in hentai, a cliché. Doesn't stop it being hot or make it any less a part of people fetishes. This rant is unnecessary and is essentially you forcing your opinion on people. You have a problem with ugly guys in hentai. It turns some people on. It's as simple as that.
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Just because you dont like something doesnt mean it should disappear, lots of people like the whole "old man young girl" thing. I personally dont care about NTR but if the art looks good ill read it.
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A story following a genre can't really be innovative. It still has to follow the principles of that genre.
Of course, you can add the all the plot twists and turns and the dark comedy routines and wtf moments, but it still has to adhere to what genre it is.
off topic:
Still waiting on MTSP to make the ultimate NTR revenge. c84 cannot come faster.
Of course, you can add the all the plot twists and turns and the dark comedy routines and wtf moments, but it still has to adhere to what genre it is.
off topic:
Still waiting on MTSP to make the ultimate NTR revenge. c84 cannot come faster.
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623 wrote...
I want to see links of people lauding NTR as "innoative," "renovating," and original and then maybe I'll believe this rant. I've been on this site for a while and I never see people raving about NTR. If anything, they do it to troll vanillafags because vanillafags are so retarded and uptight.Not on this site since it's more rare but on larger sites like doujin moe & E-hentai it's quite common to seeing it getting regurally praise from several people.
623 wrote...
And I don't get it--you talk about the villain making your eyes bleed and there being a "vile stealer", but there are people who like scat and guro. Do those not offend your delicate sensibilities? Or how about bestiality? Is a dog or pig better than a fat otaku?
Scat/piss is way worse when you have to handle/smell it. I.E cleaning it in real life.Would you want a stool sample with you scat manga to increase the connectivity?
Guro has it's charms but doesn't come close to reality hence rather harmless.
bestiality on females is bad nomatter what animal it is.
623 wrote...
Not to mention, NTR stories by default have more constraints on them than, say, vanilla. Vanilla stories just have to have nice, consensual sex. There are a million ways to set that up. A 12-year old could do it. Which means you have more flexibility to make the surrounding plot more "creative" I guess. In order to set up a somewhat realistic NTR scenario is much more difficult. Actual relationships are involved. So get off your high horse and put your rage boner away.
Actual relationships are involved in any doujin stories, realism is non existent in NTR plots because the authors take the freedom to reduce the females intelligence/resitance to zero.
Are you actually whiteknigting NTR? Only m night shyamalan would appreciate these lame twists.
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SolidShark wrote...
Futabot wrote...
Originality is not a quality that people generally value in porn.Stealth edits.Emphasis on the word generally. I love originality in the mangas, like z-ton's monster girls.
OT: NTR is just repetitive, vanilla is repetitive, incest is repetitive, everything is repetitive. Just read the ending of the mangas first and you wont end up so dissapointed. Don't be stuck in only one genre and you'll find good results.
Don't like old men, abusive protagonists, or dogs fucking a woman? Read tags very carefully, and don't lash our your rage boner.
I do read tags but some raw upploaders don't bother with tags and I check the end of finished tanks, but whenever a new author enters you don't know what to expect & it's even worse with an ongoing story.
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Sneakyone wrote...
Just because you dont like something doesnt mean it should disappear, lots of people like the whole "old man young girl" thing. I personally dont care about NTR but if the art looks good ill read it.IMHO I called it a waste of good drawing skills. It's the fact that they intentionally try to draw them as ugly as possible that ticks me off. There's tons of decent looking old men that would be alright.
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BagMan wrote...
Can't think of a single time when anyone has called NTR innovative or original, it is, like most things in hentai, a cliché. Doesn't stop it being hot or make it any less a part of people fetishes. This rant is unnecessary and is essentially you forcing your opinion on people. You have a problem with ugly guys in hentai. It turns some people on. It's as simple as that.I'm the law (Joke)
But no I'm expressing my dislike for stuff that shouldn't have become a thing thou, Japan tends to stretch things beyond all boundaries. with that comes a good deal of really stupid fetishes. I can't really force anything onto anyone can I?
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thatduderocks wrote...
BagMan wrote...
Can't think of a single time when anyone has called NTR innovative or original, it is, like most things in hentai, a cliché. Doesn't stop it being hot or make it any less a part of people fetishes. This rant is unnecessary and is essentially you forcing your opinion on people. You have a problem with ugly guys in hentai. It turns some people on. It's as simple as that.I'm the law (Joke)
But no I'm expressing my dislike for stuff that shouldn't have become a thing thou, Japan tends to stretch things beyond all boundaries. with that comes a good deal of really stupid fetishes. I can't really force anything onto anyone can I?
Cuckold and cheating have been part of people fetishes for a very long time, way before Japan took its own spin on it, saying that the Japanese made it a fetish is untrue. Also, all it sounds like to me is that you are saying NTR shouldn't be a thing because you don't like it. Grow up and deal with it.
Nice quadruple post man.
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BagMan wrote...
thatduderocks wrote...
BagMan wrote...
Can't think of a single time when anyone has called NTR innovative or original, it is, like most things in hentai, a cliché. Doesn't stop it being hot or make it any less a part of people fetishes. This rant is unnecessary and is essentially you forcing your opinion on people. You have a problem with ugly guys in hentai. It turns some people on. It's as simple as that.I'm the law (Joke)
But no I'm expressing my dislike for stuff that shouldn't have become a thing thou, Japan tends to stretch things beyond all boundaries. with that comes a good deal of really stupid fetishes. I can't really force anything onto anyone can I?
Cuckold and cheating have been part of people fetishes for a very long time, way before Japan took its own spin on it, saying that the Japanese made it a fetish is untrue. Also, all it sounds like to me is that you are saying NTR shouldn't be a thing because you don't like it. Grow up and deal with it.
Nice quadruple post man.
I wasn't implying that Japan came up with that but Cuckold & ntr are not 100% synonyms to each other, however they came many other things. You're interpreting it that way because it makes it easier to cast it away as just another me no likey rant. How convenient for you.
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thatduderocks wrote...
BagMan wrote...
thatduderocks wrote...
BagMan wrote...
Can't think of a single time when anyone has called NTR innovative or original, it is, like most things in hentai, a cliché. Doesn't stop it being hot or make it any less a part of people fetishes. This rant is unnecessary and is essentially you forcing your opinion on people. You have a problem with ugly guys in hentai. It turns some people on. It's as simple as that.I'm the law (Joke)
But no I'm expressing my dislike for stuff that shouldn't have become a thing thou, Japan tends to stretch things beyond all boundaries. with that comes a good deal of really stupid fetishes. I can't really force anything onto anyone can I?
Cuckold and cheating have been part of people fetishes for a very long time, way before Japan took its own spin on it, saying that the Japanese made it a fetish is untrue. Also, all it sounds like to me is that you are saying NTR shouldn't be a thing because you don't like it. Grow up and deal with it.
Nice quadruple post man.
I wasn't implying that Japan came up with that but Cuckold & ntr are not 100% synonyms to each other, however they came many other things. You're interpreting it that way because it makes it easier to cast it away as just another me no likey rant. How convenient for you.
Literally your whole rant was reasons you dislike NTR. Which is is fine but there's no need for the rant because you saying something doesn't make the people who genuinely enjoy NTR stop. You're also interpreting the situation as if everyone thinks NTR is the cool new fad. They don't, it isn't, . NTR is a hentai cliché that has been around since god knows when and there's no point complaining about it because it's not going to go away.
You can enjoy whatever you want to, in fact it's entirely possible to ignore NTR completely, the stories are, conveniently, tagged so that you can find what you want to read and if that's not NTR then fine.
Spoiler:
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Kaimax
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Innovative =/= Good
Unoriginal =/= Bad
NTR stories are nothing new. Hell, you can say how the myth on how the Trojan War started (Helen of Troy being taken by a guy who asked for the most beautiful woman in the world) is NTR.
Unoriginal =/= Bad
NTR stories are nothing new. Hell, you can say how the myth on how the Trojan War started (Helen of Troy being taken by a guy who asked for the most beautiful woman in the world) is NTR.
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Srsly,no one fucking cares. I go to NTR for fapping,not for originality. Just don't read stuff you know you won't like. And in the case of untagged shit well you either need to wait till they get tagged or risk offending your delicate sensibilities.
Also, not all NTR has fat guys. Sure they may be used more often it it, but i've read at least a few NTR stories without them
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BagMan wrote...
Literally your whole rant was reasons you dislike NTR. Which is is fine but there's no need for the rant because you saying something doesn't make the people who genuinely enjoy NTR stop. You're also interpreting the situation as if everyone thinks NTR is the cool new fad. They don't, it isn't, . NTR is a hentai cliché that has been around since god knows when and there's no point complaining about it because it's not going to go away.
You can enjoy whatever you want to, in fact it's entirely possible to ignore NTR completely, the stories are, conveniently, tagged so that you can find what you want to read and if that's not NTR then fine.
Spoiler:
If I could persuade all the fans it would be fine and dandy but alas I'm perfectly aware of it's a battle in which I cannot win.That's not why I'm posting the rant though... ( If I could get the attention of the NTR authors then it would raise the stakes of stopping the production of certain works [I wish!])
You still take tags for granted though, like I wrote earlier even tags can't foretell ntr plot lines. Nobody is safe!
Black Jesus JC wrote...

Srsly,no one fucking cares. I go to NTR for fapping,not for originality. Just don't read stuff you know you won't like. And in the case of untagged shit well you either need to wait till they get tagged or risk offending your delicate sensibilities.
Also, not all NTR has fat guys. Sure they may be used more often it it, but i've read at least a few NTR stories without them
Did I write anywhere that all NTR authors relies on these ugly mofos? No, not all of them but a good deal of them do. Then again I'm not shitting on the ones with believable looking males.
I can't help that I'm allergic to the stupid bullshit that authors pull off...
Ps* Jesus was neither black or a human, In fact IT was a duck ;)
Kaimax wrote...
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There, better MOD? All in one stinking reply...
