[Locked] Velvet House

OOH yeah, forgot. The trial part. Level 8 is... Firewall level eh? That's pretty cruel, but eh, Finnel didn't really have it bad thanks to Akane.

Level 8 sould be the 4th door then

Just finished too...tis a miracle that I ate just in time tho'...





Hai there LUCIA-sama and sir MELF

spoiler warning.

I have once dived into Cloche's level 10... And what did I find?... Nothing memorable...

Dived into Jacqli's level 8 or 9... I forgot... Nothing also quite memorable.

Cloche doesnt even have level 10.

And yes, she doesnt have it all that bad. Sure that sucks, no one said it isnt, but amidst all those shit she goes through, she still has a ray of hope, a person she can trust her all to; Akane. Admittedly Akane didnt do a good job of protecting her (mind you, she had no obligation to, except from being friends, we all know how iffy those words are) but fact remains fact, Finnel could trust her. And considering how much Akane did for her, i'd say she did plenty enough already.

Also, Mule wont be fully understood until you play it all, At1 and At2.

Who said anything about Luca being saddest? Lolol, that's so beside the point. If we're talking saddest, then I'd say... hmn... thinking again, it's Infel hands down.

So someone's the more sad the weaker and more pathetic she is? Please. Finnel's past is terrible, no doubt, but on careful reading (I've played all CS at least 3 times except CS in At1) and her level 7 especially screams immaturity and weakness all over. She was bullied, true. National policy, check. How does that helps with the manifestation of Suzuno Miya is not explained, but that's beside the point. The main point here is Finnel herself. Level 7 first door (or second) have showed us Akane protecting her. I think even you're not dumb enough to believe that the hot water/physical torture started since that age. At that age, the best she could receive are insults and maybe kicks and punches. And how did she respond to that? All she does is letting Akane protecting her. Akane told her directly that she shouldn't be weak, that only gives the bully more reason to pick on her, but what did she do except continuing on with that weak facade? The only argument that saved her from being utter crap is that all those happened during her crucial formative years, which surely had great impact on the development of her mind. A very convincing one, but not gonna win her any sad award just yet.

And going to the harsher torture. It's clearly shown (in her own CS to boot) that the reyvateils that tortured her, while are mere scums that did all those just because they're told to, have something resembling pity to her as well. That only means that they're still human, or rather, perfectly human, they're weak, ugly, yielding under pressure, contradictory, still pitying etc. As such, she could've changed her life if she just got a grip and be at least slightly stronger. She has Akane, the General on her side. If she herself shows the initiative to, I find it impossible for Akane to ignore it. And again, what did she do except screaming "Saaaaave meeeeeee!" or crying? None. She venting it all on Aoto I can identify with, but not her doing nothing to fix a situation that could've been fixed.

As for Mule, she wasn't hopeless, and that only adds more to her past. She tried to fix her life, she doesn't cry and only cry, and she moved on. It only gets better later on, she actually took it as an atonement to her sins to ensure AHPP a success.

Finally finished all her 9 CS!

Yay~ it's a beautiful ending~ I'm happy....


@Mib
Oh please, save your perfect person standard for yourself... If you want anyone to be that great that go live your world with disappointment... If anyone can do/act/react what is best for them without fail, then there will be no trauma, there will be sadness... People got flaws.. And that what makes them a person.

The real deal of Cosmospheres is to accept who they really are and understand.. And that way we're gonna be able to help her to be a better person... And by this fact, you who only longing for a perfect standard of how a person should act/react is not qualified to do dive into any reyvateils if you happen to live in the game.

Lol true, there's no such thing as a perfect person. That's the whole point of dives. Mule is far from perfect, if her L7/8 is any indication. Finnel is definitely not perfect even if she got a grip, but she didnt, and she could've done better than that. Saki is pure, but is too pure for her own good. Tilia is... well, she's an Origin and just like Shurelia, she's static so there's little point talking about her personality.

Going into At2, Cloche... the usual hime-sama prob. Not impressive, but as far as torture goes, she had it far worse than Finnel (Finnel never had her skull opened and her brain poked, for example). Mule is Mule, her CS showed her conflicts very neatly. It's one of those too much love gives birth to malice problem, which is justified by her past AND her choice to make up for it. Luca's a little girl, and her problems is almost totally internal. The way she deals with it isn't mature at all, and Reisha, the mother figure, could've done better. Not exactly holding it on her since she lost her beloved to the daughter she's supposed to protect, but still, her impact on the young Luca is large. As large as I daresay Luca's internal clock stopped the moment she noticed she no longer hears the lullaby....

At1. Shurelia is static. Misha is sexy, but her problems is like Cloche, not impressive. Minus the torture, she's ranking lower than Cloche naturally. Aurica... except for BBQ Soda, why was she there again?

Laaaaadddiiiieeessss and Gentlemen!

Suuuuuup Rooom!

Hello Mibu, I see one heated Ar Tonelico discussion here.

Lolol. This is far from heated room. You should check out ARM if you want a real Ar tonelico discussion.

I see, I see.

Will remember it when I'll need some hot action.

Do the lime dance everyone >=D

What will I have out of that?

exercise? =D *hugs room*

*Hugs back*

Already taken my hill walk.

have fun rooms =D