WAIFU GAME XI: Discussion
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Zandorf wrote...
Sabers Praetor wrote...
The Main Heroines for Fate/Stay Night are Sakura, Rin, and Arturia. No matter what your argument, this is a fact. Any other character, while potentially vital to the plot, are not the Heroine of their own route; thus Flaser is in the clear. If you have a problem with that, then he could claim just based off of Rin and Sakura as a sibling set.Also Rider's original master is Sakura not Shinji. Rider was also summoned as an anti-hero. So while she may not necessarily be bad, she isn't exactly good either. And yes, Shinji is a Dick.
Should have quoted me sabers (aka sorrowbloodmist), and not bagman, since you're replying to what I said. I had to fix your sentences as well (ocd moment).
I can argue else wise, mostly because it is my own opinion. The other reason is because of the fact they they can be considered heroines themselves. You are right though, that even if the F/SN heroine set isn't complete, Flaser could still get another claim off of the fact that Rin and Sakura are siblings.
The thing about Rider's om being Sakura and not Shinji, escaped my mind... or I just forgot about it.
If I may throw in my two cents about the claim...
From my understanding, you, Zandorf, are making the argument that the set is not complete because the 'F/SN Heroine Set' should contain Rider (and possibly other characters). Here is why I, as well as a few other people, think your reasoning is invalid.
In the Visual Novel, there are three routes. Fate, Unlimited Blade Works, and Heaven's Feel. The MAIN heroine of each route are Saber, Rin, and Sakura respectively. Now whether or not Rider, as well as other characters like Ilya, can be considered Heroines, is up to your opinion. However the MAIN heroines in the visual novel are only Saber, Rin, and Sakura. This is emphasized by the fact that Rider doesn't have an H-scene in the visual novel (or at least I'm pretty sure).
Although if you want even more of a headache deciding on what to allow PumpJack, I think I may have a flaw that might render this entire argument useless. Sabers Praetor's original claim of being part of the complete 'Saber Set' might be wrong. No one has claimed Sakura Saber which could be technically part of the set since the 'Saber Set' is so vague in the first place. No one has claimed Saber of 'Black' or Gawain yet either, but I assume that's because this is the '(Female) Saber Set'.
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Also I have a question about the 6th slot rule. If there is a set cast of lets say four characters, and I claim two of them, whereas the other two characters are claimed by other users, can I still benefit from the 6th slot rule? In the rules it states that you are not able to complete a set by yourself, but if you claim more than one character, or even the majority, of the set by yourself does it still count as long as there is at least one other user who helped make the set?
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delti9 wrote...
Also I have a question about the 6th slot rule. If there is a set cast of lets say four characters, and I claim two of them, whereas the other two characters are claimed by other users, can I still benefit from the 6th slot rule? In the rules it states that you are not able to complete a set by yourself, but if you claim more than one character, or even the majority, of the set by yourself does it still count as long as there is at least one other user who helped make the set?
I'll allow a maximum of half the set. So if the set requires 4, one person may claim up to 2. If it's a set of 10, I'll allow a maximum of 5.
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How do we know if we've got a set? For example, I've got Asuka, if someone else claims Rei Ayanami, is that a set? (Female EVA pilots set, maybe?)
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niell wrote...
How do we know if we've got a set? For example, I've got Asuka, if someone else claims Rei Ayanami, is that a set? (Female EVA pilots set, maybe?)Jury: You Lot
Judge: Le Monsieur Moi & Me
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brok3n butterfly wrote...
Tsamari wrote...
brok3n butterfly wrote...
I'm surprised someone took my 3rd round pick in the first round, on the first page.Who is that?
Hozuki Ferrari
I figured characters from the current season would go relatively quick, aside from the usual favorites. Sorry, I'll treat her right. ^^
niell wrote...
How do we know if we've got a set? For example, I've got Asuka, if someone else claims Rei Ayanami, is that a set? (Female EVA pilots set, maybe?)Ugh, that's a toughie. Technically, it would, if we're referring to original TV & movies but you'd also need Mari if we refer to the new movies... @_@
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sardaukar58 wrote...
brok3n butterfly wrote...
Tsamari wrote...
brok3n butterfly wrote...
I'm surprised someone took my 3rd round pick in the first round, on the first page.Who is that?
Hozuki Ferrari
I figured characters from the current season would go relatively quick, aside from the usual favorites. Sorry, I'll treat her right. ^^
niell wrote...
How do we know if we've got a set? For example, I've got Asuka, if someone else claims Rei Ayanami, is that a set? (Female EVA pilots set, maybe?)Ugh, that's a toughie. Technically, it would, if we're referring to original TV & movies but you'd also need Mari if we refer to the new movies... @_@
Sets can be expanded upon.
So- for this particular example- only Asuka and Rei are required for the bonus- but someone else can jump in with Mari to get it, also.
And- if someone divorces- only the person who did a divorce would lose their bonus.
On a completely different note- this video has boosted Ran and Yuugi quite significantly in my approval ratings.
Besides the obvious, I also like that the voices actually match the characters. And- believe or not- I was initially attracted to the quality of the models and animation.
And dem fluffy tails.
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tsuyoshiro wrote...
Let's try this again, apparently there's a code phrase and a secret handshake.Good.
Now tell me why that is.
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Lost_Hero wrote...
Livin' la vida locaI claim Kaede Fuyou as my one true waifu. She'll always be the perfect waifu to me.
Spoiler:
Just might want to add the source. >.<
PumpJack McGee wrote...
Sets can be expanded upon.
So- for this particular example- only Asuka and Rei are required for the bonus- but someone else can jump in with Mari to get it, also.
And- if someone divorces- only the person who did a divorce would lose their bonus.
I see, so having sets can be pretty darned flexible (and potentially open to interpretation, though it makes sense in current example).
EDIT: @PumpJack: In case it hasn't been said yet, thanks for running this game.
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Hentanize
rebaS
delti9 wrote...
Although if you want even more of a headache deciding on what to allow PumpJack, I think I may have a flaw that might render this entire argument useless. Sabers Praetor's original claim of being part of the complete 'Saber Set' might be wrong. No one has claimed Sakura Saber which could be technically part of the set since the 'Saber Set' is so vague in the first place. No one has claimed Saber of 'Black' or Gawain yet either, but I assume that's because this is the '(Female) Saber Set'.According to the wiki page Sakura Saber is intended as a joke, we don't even know her true identity, basically her importance is as relevant as the shit stain on the back of my shoe.
Even without Mordred, Arturia and Nero still fill a set on their own methinks:
-One's a King the other one's an Emperor, making them both "Rulers".
-Arturia and Nero are considered the only two main Sabers from the whole franchise.
-Blue and Red
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"look at those fickle peasants questioning our magnificence"
So hot.
If the set does become invalid, I can back it up with another one: Parent Saber (Arturia), and Child Saber of red (Mordred). "Father and son" in other words.
On a completely different matter, claiming Miyako and Momoyo would complete the majikoi heroine set. Or Momoyo alone would complete the Kawakami sisters set, for those who may be interrested.
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Cinia Pacifica
Ojou-sama Writer
PorygonPowah wrote...
For round one, I'll claim Senri Akane. I love her story, and character deeply, and her route is probably the best heroine route I've ever played. Beautiful, competent, and with a wit that could give Senjogahara a run for her money, she's my kind of women
You forgot to add what show/series she's from.
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Sabers Praetor
Unlimited Lewd Works
delti9 wrote...
Zandorf wrote...
Sabers Praetor wrote...
The Main Heroines for Fate/Stay Night are Sakura, Rin, and Arturia. No matter what your argument, this is a fact. Any other character, while potentially vital to the plot, are not the Heroine of their own route; thus Flaser is in the clear. If you have a problem with that, then he could claim just based off of Rin and Sakura as a sibling set.Also Rider's original master is Sakura not Shinji. Rider was also summoned as an anti-hero. So while she may not necessarily be bad, she isn't exactly good either. And yes, Shinji is a Dick.
Should have quoted me sabers (aka sorrowbloodmist), and not bagman, since you're replying to what I said. I had to fix your sentences as well (ocd moment).
I can argue else wise, mostly because it is my own opinion. The other reason is because of the fact they they can be considered heroines themselves. You are right though, that even if the F/SN heroine set isn't complete, Flaser could still get another claim off of the fact that Rin and Sakura are siblings.
The thing about Rider's om being Sakura and not Shinji, escaped my mind... or I just forgot about it.
If I may throw in my two cents about the claim...
From my understanding, you, Zandorf, are making the argument that the set is not complete because the 'F/SN Heroine Set' should contain Rider (and possibly other characters). Here is why I, as well as a few other people, think your reasoning is invalid.
In the Visual Novel, there are three routes. Fate, Unlimited Blade Works, and Heaven's Feel. The MAIN heroine of each route are Saber, Rin, and Sakura respectively. Now whether or not Rider, as well as other characters like Ilya, can be considered Heroines, is up to your opinion. However the MAIN heroines in the visual novel are only Saber, Rin, and Sakura. This is emphasized by the fact that Rider doesn't have an H-scene in the visual novel (or at least I'm pretty sure).
Although if you want even more of a headache deciding on what to allow PumpJack, I think I may have a flaw that might render this entire argument useless. Sabers Praetor's original claim of being part of the complete 'Saber Set' might be wrong. No one has claimed Sakura Saber which could be technically part of the set since the 'Saber Set' is so vague in the first place. No one has claimed Saber of 'Black' or Gawain yet either, but I assume that's because this is the '(Female) Saber Set'.
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Also I have a question about the 6th slot rule. If there is a set cast of lets say four characters, and I claim two of them, whereas the other two characters are claimed by other users, can I still benefit from the 6th slot rule? In the rules it states that you are not able to complete a set by yourself, but if you claim more than one character, or even the majority, of the set by yourself does it still count as long as there is at least one other user who helped make the set?
Sakura Saber is a parody character though I wouldnt really count that one but it is in Koha which is buyable so its debatable. And yes its a female set obviously which is why Gawain and Siegfried are excluded. Also Rider had a 2 image Sex Scene but it was in Shirou's 'dream'
@zan: Doesent matter who I quote you still got the message.
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Hentanize
rebaS
Sabers Praetor wrote...
Also Rider had a 2 image Sex Scene but it was in Shirou's 'dream'I don't remember this
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Lughost
the Lugoat
Hentanize wrote...
Sabers Praetor wrote...
Also Rider had a 2 image Sex Scene but it was in Shirou's 'dream'I don't remember this
It's totally there.
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Sabers Praetor
Unlimited Lewd Works
Hentanize wrote...
Sabers Praetor wrote...
Also Rider had a 2 image Sex Scene but it was in Shirou's 'dream'I don't remember this
Probably cause she appeared as Tohsaka's body not her own it was pretty early on in one of the routes but when the dream Tohsaka opens her eyes you see Riders Pupils.
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Breaker_Gorgon
^read the last paragraph
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PumpJack McGee wrote...
I'll allow a maximum of half the set. So if the set requires 4, one person may claim up to 2. If it's a set of 10, I'll allow a maximum of 5.Ha! That makes me eligible. Since I have Yukiko and someone claimed Chie. That makes up two of the four girls from the Seekers of the Truth female members.
Actually, Fuck. That makes a shit ton of people eligible. Are you sure about this Jack?
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BloodyWind wrote...
PumpJack McGee wrote...
I'll allow a maximum of half the set. So if the set requires 4, one person may claim up to 2. If it's a set of 10, I'll allow a maximum of 5.Ha! That makes me eligible. Since I have Yukiko and someone claimed Chie. That makes up two of the four girls from the Seekers of the Truth female members.
Actually, Fuck. That makes a shit ton of people eligible. Are you sure about this Jack?
Read my original post, he's saying that you, personally, can claim up to half the set that you are attempting to be eligible for. So if you had Chie and Yukiko and the other two girls were already claimed, then you can get the 6th slot.
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AssasinZAssasin
Not Hentai Protagonist
Livin' la vida loca
Man, I Was busy so i skimmed through the rules. I just hope no-one took my first claim...
-Reposted, so hopefully this makes me qualified.
Man, I Was busy so i skimmed through the rules. I just hope no-one took my first claim...
-Reposted, so hopefully this makes me qualified.
