[Locked] This is how racism should ACTUALLY be ended.
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I like how I get instantly neg-repped for that, and I'm pretty sure I know who it is.
Moving on, there is something else I'd like to share:
Please take this into consideration. It's pretty fucking important.
Like, end of your civil rights as a US citizen level important if taken further.
Moving on, there is something else I'd like to share:
Please take this into consideration. It's pretty fucking important.
Like, end of your civil rights as a US citizen level important if taken further.
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FinalBoss
#levelupyourgrind
The only way racism will end is when all races get mixed together and only one skin color is left.
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FinalBoss wrote...
The only way racism will end is when all races get mixed together and only one skin color is left.They would still find minute differences between each other to judge each other.
A single mullato mutt world is disgusting.
I'm white. I'm dating a pitch black haitian girl. Our babies at best would be light brown or cream if we ever had any. But encouraging people to outbreed to wipe out all races just sounds to me as a crime.
I want to give my kids a chance to choose, a variety of people to differentiate.
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CronaBaka
Mellow Yellow
FinalBoss wrote...
The only way racism will end is when all races get mixed together and only one skin color is left.Race is just a cultural concept with no scientific basis. It's origins go hand in hand with colonialism and was used to justify slavery.
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FinalBoss
#levelupyourgrind
Manes wrote...
FinalBoss wrote...
The only way racism will end is when all races get mixed together and only one skin color is left.They would still find minute differences between each other to judge each other.
A single mullato mutt world is disgusting.
I'm white. I'm dating a pitch black haitian girl. Our babies at best would be light brown or cream if we ever had any. But encouraging people to outbreed to wipe out all races just sounds to me as a crime.
I want to give my kids a chance to choose, a variety of people to differentiate.
I'm not saying everyone should outbreed, but years from now, a one race human population could be a possibility.
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CronaBaka wrote...
Race is just a cultural concept with no scientific basis. It's origins go hand in hand with colonialism and was used to justify slavery.You're an idiot, but that's no surprise. There are, in fact, biological difference between races. This doesn't suggest that one is superior to another, only different. But, to ignore the obvious differences of people from different areas of the world who evolved in different environments with different challenges to survive is complete stupidity at best, or sheer lunacy at worst.
Here are a few sources, though any idiot with google can find hundreds more:
source1
source2
source3
Racial anatomy is different because as we evolved facing different challenges our bodies evolved differently as a result. Ignoring the scientific facts must be blissful for you, sheep.
Unlike you, I did my research ahead of time so I know where to find all the sources you'll ever want supporting my points.
If you can successfully rebuke even ONE of my points, with evidence, I will gladly take back all the negative things I said about you and hail you as an intellectual also.
But, because I did my research, I also know that this is impossible.
Especially for you.
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CronaBaka
Mellow Yellow
Complete Horizon wrote...
CronaBaka wrote...
Race is just a cultural concept with no scientific basis. It's origins go hand in hand with colonialism and was used to justify slavery.You're an idiot, but that's no surprise. There are, in fact, biological difference between races. This doesn't suggest that one is superior to another, only different. But, to ignore the obvious differences of people from different areas of the world who evolved in different environments with different challenges to survive is complete stupidity at best, or sheer lunacy at worst.
Here are a few sources, though any idiot with google can find hundreds more:
source1
source2
source3
Racial anatomy is different because as we evolved facing different challenges our bodies evolved differently as a result. Ignoring the scientific facts must be blissful for you, sheep.
You clearly haven't studied biological anthropology. People look different because of genetic mutations, adaptations, and additions of different genes. What's more, there is as much or more genetic variation within conventional racial as there is between them.
I'm not saying there aren't differences (I'm not THAT dumb ffs). I'm saying that the concept of biologically distinct races IS NOT SCIENTIFICALLY VALID.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Complete Horizon wrote...
CronaBaka wrote...
Race is just a cultural concept with no scientific basis. It's origins go hand in hand with colonialism and was used to justify slavery.You're an idiot, but that's no surprise. There are, in fact, biological difference between races. This doesn't suggest that one is superior to another, only different. But, to ignore the obvious differences of people from different areas of the world who evolved in different environments with different challenges to survive is complete stupidity at best, or sheer lunacy at worst.
Here are a few sources, though any idiot with google can find hundreds more:
source1
source2
source3
Racial anatomy is different because as we evolved facing different challenges our bodies evolved differently as a result. Ignoring the scientific facts must be blissful for you, sheep.
Unlike you, I did my research ahead of time so I know where to find all the sources you'll ever want supporting my points.
If you can successfully rebuke even ONE of my points, with evidence, I will gladly take back all the negative things I said about you and hail you as an intellectual also.
But, because I did my research, I also know that this is impossible.
Especially for you.
Sources 2 and 3 are fine.
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CronaBaka wrote...
You clearly haven't studied biological anthropology. People look different because of genetic mutations, adaptations, and additions of different genes. What's more, there is as much or more genetic variation within conventional racial as there is between them.I'm not saying there aren't differences (I'm not THAT dumb ffs). I'm saying that the concept of biologically distinct races IS NOT SCIENTIFICALLY VALID.
Except that it is, and my sources have shown such. Please present sources lest you continue showing how retarded you are.
You clearly haven't studied biological anthropology, because your own knowledge fails you time after time.
I haven't either, but at least I don't pretend I know more than I do--I use outside research to make my assessments rather than faulty human "experience" which you imply that you have.
"People look different because of genetic mutations, adaptations, and additions of different genes." That is precisely what I said. Do you have the ability to read? What do you think causes such genetic mutations? They had to evolve over time in order to adapt to their environments. If anything, you're only proving my points correct even more.
"What's more, there is as much or more genetic variation within conventional racial as there is between them." That is, assuming that there are less races than there are genetic variations. When did I ever say that there were only a few races on the planet? As far as the differences go, there are millions of significant differences, and billions of very minor, almost unnoticeable ones.
Before you jump to any more stupid conclusions and strengthen my own points again, allow me to inform you that one tribe in Africa can be genetically different from their next door neighbors in many ways, it all depends on the evolution of their bodies, how their genetics factored in and allowed them to adapt to their environment. In fact, the variation within tribes and villages can be vast depending on what each individual faced during their lifetime and had to adapt to.
Our bodies change based on our hormones and our body's chemicals. When a person has to react to various stimuli, the difference in environmental factors and what each person had to deal with creates different genetics on an individual basis over time.
It's clear to me at this point that anything you can bring up will either be demonstrably wrong or will almost explicitly agree with my points, because I did my research. Clearly, you have not.
"(I'm not THAT dumb ffs)" Yes, yes you are. The only reason you're even acknowledging them now is because I pointed them out with sources and showed you what a fool you are. I sincerely doubt there are many people on this site as stupid as you are--They would be very hard to find.
Well, I can think of only two others near your level of "academic brilliance".
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CronaBaka wrote...
Such a tryhard. lolSuch hypocrisy, you're the same.
Except the difference being, when I try hard, I win arguments.
You just make yourself look foolish in the process.
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CronaBaka
Mellow Yellow
Complete Horizon wrote...
CronaBaka wrote...
Such a tryhard. lolSuch hypocrisy, you're the same.
Except the difference being, when I try hard, I win arguments.
You just make yourself look foolish in the process.
No duh, that's my intention.
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CronaBaka wrote...
Complete Horizon wrote...
CronaBaka wrote...
Such a tryhard. lolSuch hypocrisy, you're the same.
Except the difference being, when I try hard, I win arguments.
You just make yourself look foolish in the process.
No duh, that's my intention.
I sincerely disbelieve you.
Why bother opening your mouth only to make yourself look foolish? Do you think you're being comedic or funny? You fail in that regard, too. You're a tryhard that doesn't even know how to research your own points, and then when people point out how retarded you are, you fall back on "no duh I'm a baka look at me make an utter fool of myself!"
You have no excuses, you're just hiding from the facts that you find uncomfortable or painful to bear in mind.
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Complete Horizon wrote...
You're an idiot, but that's no surprise. There are, in fact, biological difference between races. This doesn't suggest that one is superior to another, only different. But, to ignore the obvious differences of people from different areas of the world who evolved in different environments with different challenges to survive is complete stupidity at best, or sheer lunacy at worst.
Here are a few sources, though any idiot with google can find hundreds more:
source1
source2
source3
Racial anatomy is different because as we evolved facing different challenges our bodies evolved differently as a result. Ignoring the scientific facts must be blissful for you, sheep.
Unlike you, I did my research ahead of time so I know where to find all the sources you'll ever want supporting my points.
Source 2 doesn't support your point; it goes AGAINST what you're saying. Actually read Source 2 please (especially point 5). It's old, but it does an okay job explaining the current mainstream scientific opinion on race. No one is saying there aren't physical differences (like in Source 3), they're saying that there's no scientific basis to classify humans into groups by race or geographic region, for reasons expressed in Source 2. The concept of race is not useful in modern medicine. Current science explores genetics, not race. Basically, the concept of race is pseudoscience. Source 1 is an op-ed from the 90s from a fringe apologist publication.
A more comprehensive and modern article:
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Racialism
As for OP, you know that Prager U is a fake university? Also the message is stupid- the way to end racism is to treat blacks equally. No fucking duh. That's a tautaulogy. Gee, how insightful and engaging. It's only saying this in a racist context too, surrounding the Ferguson riots in 2014. Treat blacks equally when they do bad things also no affirmative action and the like. That's the only time racists care about equality, only in those contexts.
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msPaint wrote...
Source 2 doesn't support your point; it goes AGAINST what you're saying. Actually read Source 2 please (especially point 5). It's old, but it does an okay job explaining the current mainstream scientific opinion on race. No one is saying there aren't physical differences (like in Source 3), they're saying that there's no scientific basis to classify humans into groups by race or geographic region, for reasons expressed in Source 2. The concept of race is not useful in modern medicine. Current science explores genetics, not race. Basically, the concept of race is pseudoscience. Source 1 is an op-ed from the 90s from a fringe apologist publication.Did you actually read my post carefully enough? You seem to be missing my point by miles.
I said there were billions of genetic differences, and while similarities exist, even two people in the same village will develop different genetic adaptations based on the stimuli of their environment and what challenges they face. So, clearly, you do not understand what my point actually is.
I will spell it out to you in the simplest way possible: There are literally millions of races on the planet, with such an endless variety of genetic differences that you cannot begin to fathom the amount.
However, the differences exist, and similarities exist in physical ways based on micro-climates which influence adaptation. Micro-climates are a lot smaller than most seem to realize. A micro-climate could scarcely cover a single home, let alone a village or region. The tiniest of differences cause changes which do have some minor, if barely noticeable, impact on genetics.
In my last post, I basically stated that I don't believe he understands that the genetic differences that form based on environmental stimuli even exist. Because he doesn't. You do, but you definitely seem to be misconstruing the point of my argument.
Also, just to point out, the only lines in that entire section that could potentially disagree with YOUR impression of my point are these:
Humanity cannot be classified into discrete geographic categories with absolute boundaries.
Emphasis on absolute boundaries for this point. As in, there are no absolute boundaries one can use to completely separate one set of genetically different people from another based on geographics. However, there are similarities, as expressed by the rest of this article. And the others.
The geographic pattern of genetic variation within this array is complex, and presents no major discontinuity.
As in, the changes continue indefinitely, and constant introduction of new or similar stimuli continue to shape the genetics of individuals as the chemicals in their body react to such.
Both of these could possibly be used to argue that there is no way to properly classify race based on regional differences, but that is aside from the point I made.
However, the same lines could also be used to argue that the environment, and thus the region, has a greater impact on the difference in the way people developed, thus classifying people based on such differences in anatomical and genetic development is possible.
In other words, these lines are not conclusive enough to negotiate either point.
msPaint wrote...
A more comprehensive and modern article:http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Racialism
I'll take the time to read it, rest assured. I will also point out every fault in any arguments or statements I find there, but also give it credit where it is due. I'll break it down so that it's easy to understand and make a new thread about it later.
msPaint wrote...
As for OP, you know that Prager U is a fake university?It's not a university, it's a series of youtube videos made for the purpose of spreading particular messages, some of which have merit, and others that do not. It's not a "fake university", it doesn't qualify as an educational institution at all.
But it's funny you would even use that as a point at all since I never stated or even implied that it was. Was that supposed to be some form of subtle mockery?
If so, bravo, you have achieved exactly what Chrono would have achieved: Nothing.
msPaint wrote...
Also, the message is stupid- the way to end racism is to treat blacks equally. No fucking duh.Except that it is not obvious to far too many, as they don't understand what it means to "treat all people equally, regardless of race, religion, circumstance, etc".
I am beginning to doubt that it's actually "obvious" to you, as well.
msPaint wrote...
That's a tautology.Fixed that minor mistake for you. You don't have to thank me, though I'd be elated if you did.
msPaint wrote...
Gee, how insightful and engaging.I would be glad if you thought so, but I'd wager you're merely using sarcasm to segway into your next statement.
msPaint wrote...
It's only saying this in a racist context too, surrounding the Ferguson riots in 2014.Except that it's not. Their point is that rioters should be arrested and treated to the full extent of the law regardless of something like race. Merely bringing up a specific incident does not make the context of the argument "racist".
msPaint wrote...
Treat blacks equally when they do bad things at all times also no affirmative action and the like.Fixed that for you. It's not just about doing bad things. It's about people achieving things, getting jobs, awards, and everything under the sun in between. People should all have a fair reward for their efforts and fair consequences for their crimes.
msPaint wrote...
That's the only time racists care about equality, only in those contexts.You still haven't actually shown how any of these people are "racist". You merely slap the label on them without placing much thought into their intentions. And their intentions seem clear. Incentivise people to work hard regardless of who they are or their background, and make it so that all people are punished rightfully for their crimes.
But I guess calling someone "racist" is a way to win arguments lately. Why should you bother trying to debate with logic among intellectual human beings, when you can just cry "racism" and call it a day?
As far as they've shown, they just care about equality period, it has nothing to do with "race".
You're failing here, and you've only begun. I'm quite disappointed in you. Maybe you should take a bit more time to analyze things before you jump in next time.
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My point is that race as a scientific concept is pseudoscience. If your point is that there is a possible scientific definition of race, why not use a legitimate scientific source that directly provides a working definition i.e. "The definition of race is...". There are plenty of them from the 18th and 19th centuries. Instead the first source you reach for is a sketchy op-ed from the 90s. And another source goes against your hypothesis (if you'd continue to read all of point 5).
If there are millions of races within a species, what's the point of defining race? Why is there a need to classify a local population anything more than just a local population? Like I said before, race isn't useful for studying genetics or medicine. It doesn't make biological sense either. The "Racialism" article I linked goes more into more specifics with real academic sources.
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I point out that Prager U is a fake university to highlight that it's a sketchy source. Come on. A fake university? Why does it need to pretend to be an accredited academic institution? That's so misleading and dirty.
I agree with you that people should be punished equally for the same crimes. Too bad that doesn't happen though because of institutional racism in criminal sentencing. People should be rewarded the same for the same effort as well. Unfortunately that doesn't happen either. It raises the question- what happens when it takes a certain group of people more effort in order to obtain the same rewards? Racism is a complicated topic and I kinda don't want to go into it here in depth. I only wanted to say that that video is shit and not as profound as you make it out to be.
P.S. I'm actually kinda racist myself to be honest. I'm dead serious. I have racist thoughts from time to time. Just thought I'd let you know.
P.P.S. It's segue not "segway", lol. I wasn't even doing that.
If there are millions of races within a species, what's the point of defining race? Why is there a need to classify a local population anything more than just a local population? Like I said before, race isn't useful for studying genetics or medicine. It doesn't make biological sense either. The "Racialism" article I linked goes more into more specifics with real academic sources.
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I point out that Prager U is a fake university to highlight that it's a sketchy source. Come on. A fake university? Why does it need to pretend to be an accredited academic institution? That's so misleading and dirty.
I agree with you that people should be punished equally for the same crimes. Too bad that doesn't happen though because of institutional racism in criminal sentencing. People should be rewarded the same for the same effort as well. Unfortunately that doesn't happen either. It raises the question- what happens when it takes a certain group of people more effort in order to obtain the same rewards? Racism is a complicated topic and I kinda don't want to go into it here in depth. I only wanted to say that that video is shit and not as profound as you make it out to be.
P.S. I'm actually kinda racist myself to be honest. I'm dead serious. I have racist thoughts from time to time. Just thought I'd let you know.
P.P.S. It's segue not "segway", lol. I wasn't even doing that.