Time Waster

True. I can just never get into it. It feels so slow, but then when it gets going, it's fast. It's weird. Like, moves take years to come out in many characters, and they move so slowly, but at the same time, it's fast somehow (like, actually. I haven't paid enough attention to figure it out)

I've been playing sm4sh a lot recently, enjoying that. That feels genuinely a lot faster,, despite being a bit slower. Somehow.

>Smash 4 feels faster

I think you need to get your head examined.

Smash 4 is faster the Brawl but not as fast or sharp as Melee. Project M(RIP) is faster the Sm4sh. It's at n64 levels.

It's weird. I use kirby (which is probably partly the issue), but as said, the moves just take forever to come out and there's like input lag on everything, and then it's just slow until you play somebody who plays it often.

What input lag? I played kirby on melee for years and there was no input lag for moves (for any characters). There are delays (start up times) for some moves, but that is not the same as input lag.

I'm probably confusing the two, but it felt like there was lag between me pushing the button and the action happening for almost everything. Except maybe jumps

If it's not start up time of the animation (kirby is pretty bad in Melee) then you might want to see if your disc is scratched or if something is wrong with your controller.