Waifu Game X - News/Discussion
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I have a question about claims related to The Legend of Zelda series.
It's pretty obvious that all of the people in the Zelda games, though sharing names, are different people: The Link in the first one is not the same Link as the one in Windwaker (Unless you seriously think Link is a time traveling immortal child that tosses all his bottles and items before moving away after every single game). It's also pretty obvious that each Zelda is also a different person (Unless you believe shes has the ability to change her very appearance, age, and personality, adding the time travel and immortality from before).
The question I have: Can Tsamari seriously make one claim that takes all 15-20 Zelda even though they are all different people? Just because the names of pretty much everything is passed from one game to the next doesn't make them all the same person or place.
It's somewhat like the Fate series: Just because Nero and Arturia look similar and share the name "Saber" doesn't mean you can take one and have both. They each have different personalities and nuances that that mean far more than just their names or classes.
In summary, I feel that his claim of this...
Should not translate to a claim of this...
But that's just the way I see it. If you feel I'm spouting nonsense, feel free to tell me. I apologize if I'm being a bother and I thank you for your time.
It's pretty obvious that all of the people in the Zelda games, though sharing names, are different people: The Link in the first one is not the same Link as the one in Windwaker (Unless you seriously think Link is a time traveling immortal child that tosses all his bottles and items before moving away after every single game). It's also pretty obvious that each Zelda is also a different person (Unless you believe shes has the ability to change her very appearance, age, and personality, adding the time travel and immortality from before).
The question I have: Can Tsamari seriously make one claim that takes all 15-20 Zelda even though they are all different people? Just because the names of pretty much everything is passed from one game to the next doesn't make them all the same person or place.
It's somewhat like the Fate series: Just because Nero and Arturia look similar and share the name "Saber" doesn't mean you can take one and have both. They each have different personalities and nuances that that mean far more than just their names or classes.
In summary, I feel that his claim of this...
Spoiler:
Should not translate to a claim of this...
Spoiler:
But that's just the way I see it. If you feel I'm spouting nonsense, feel free to tell me. I apologize if I'm being a bother and I thank you for your time.
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Tsamari
C.E.O of Pancakes
Dee::Arc wrote...
I have a question about claims related to The Legend of Zelda series.It's pretty obvious that all of the people in the Zelda games, though sharing names, are different people: The Link in the first one is not the same Link as the one in Windwaker (Unless you seriously think Link is a time traveling immortal child that tosses all his bottles and items before moving away after every single game). It's also pretty obvious that each Zelda is also a different person (Unless you believe shes has the ability to change her very appearance, age, and personality, adding the time travel and immortality from before).
The question I have: Can Tsamari seriously make one claim that takes all 15-20 Zelda even though they are all different people? Just because the names of pretty much everything is passed from one game to the next doesn't make them all the same person or place.
It's somewhat like the Fate series: Just because Nero and Arturia look similar and share the name "Saber" doesn't mean you can take one and have both. They each have different personalities and nuances that that mean far more than just their names or classes.
In summary, I feel that his claim of this...
Spoiler:
Should not translate to a claim of this...
Spoiler:
But that's just the way I see it. If you feel I'm spouting nonsense, feel free to tell me. I apologize if I'm being a bother and I thank you for your time.
Don't you ruin this for me >_> but i see your point.
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echoeagle3
Oppai Overlord
A-G_Hunter wrote...
I'm taking Chouun Shiryuu from Ikkitousen as my last(5th) waifu... I was late, but anyway, I think no one like the girls I'm claiming. Spoiler:
Actually I am quite the Ikkitousen fan. Chouun is pretty hot
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Original Post:
Edited Post:
You're quite the Tsundere; I love it.~<3
Tsamari wrote...
Don't you ruin this for me >_>Edited Post:
Tsamari wrote...
Don't you ruin this for me >_> but i see your point.You're quite the Tsundere; I love it.~<3
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PumpJack McGee wrote...
Arinaz wrote...
PumpJack McGee wrote...
Arinaz wrote...
PumpJack McGee wrote...
Arinaz wrote...
Tsamari wrote...
Tsamari wrote...
I divorce Hanazono Shizuma from strawberry panic. :'( (i well always love you Shizuma) I'm a little sad that i did this but i know it's for the best.
Only a god tier claim can save you now.
She's a lesbanin, anyways. She wouldn't love him back.
She would probably act like a wife if she was forced to marry some guy.
Maybe fun for a sadist for a short while, but knowing that she's faking it is never a good thing.
Maybe Tsamari is actually a girl.
Tsamari- reveal thy bosom.
This.
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Two clarifications on claiming mecha, please.
1) What is the minimum size threshold to be a claimable mecha? Some sources define mecha as being larger than human-sized, while others include roughly human-sized powered armor/battlesuits such as the Iron Man suits and Appleseed's Orcs.
2) Some mecha are standard models that are not given individual identifiers/names, such as Appleseed's Landmates. Do we need to identify them as the example piloted/worn by an individual to claim them?
1) What is the minimum size threshold to be a claimable mecha? Some sources define mecha as being larger than human-sized, while others include roughly human-sized powered armor/battlesuits such as the Iron Man suits and Appleseed's Orcs.
2) Some mecha are standard models that are not given individual identifiers/names, such as Appleseed's Landmates. Do we need to identify them as the example piloted/worn by an individual to claim them?
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Arinaz wrote...
PumpJack McGee wrote...
Arinaz wrote...
PumpJack McGee wrote...
Arinaz wrote...
PumpJack McGee wrote...
Arinaz wrote...
Tsamari wrote...
Tsamari wrote...
I divorce Hanazono Shizuma from strawberry panic. :'( (i well always love you Shizuma) I'm a little sad that i did this but i know it's for the best.
Only a god tier claim can save you now.
She's a lesbanin, anyways. She wouldn't love him back.
She would probably act like a wife if she was forced to marry some guy.
Maybe fun for a sadist for a short while, but knowing that she's faking it is never a good thing.
Maybe Tsamari is actually a girl.
Tsamari- reveal thy bosom.
This.
Desperation by Quebec duck
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Tsamari
C.E.O of Pancakes
Dee::Arc wrote...
Original Post:Tsamari wrote...
Don't you ruin this for me >_>Edited Post:
Tsamari wrote...
Don't you ruin this for me >_> but i see your point.You're quite the Tsundere; I love it.~<3
:D
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animefreak_usa wrote...
Arinaz wrote...
PumpJack McGee wrote...
Arinaz wrote...
PumpJack McGee wrote...
Arinaz wrote...
PumpJack McGee wrote...
Arinaz wrote...
Tsamari wrote...
Tsamari wrote...
I divorce Hanazono Shizuma from strawberry panic. :'( (i well always love you Shizuma) I'm a little sad that i did this but i know it's for the best.
Only a god tier claim can save you now.
She's a lesbanin, anyways. She wouldn't love him back.
She would probably act like a wife if she was forced to marry some guy.
Maybe fun for a sadist for a short while, but knowing that she's faking it is never a good thing.
Maybe Tsamari is actually a girl.
Tsamari- reveal thy bosom.
This.
Desperation by Quebec duck
Don't live in Québec anymore. I moved last month.
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echoeagle3
Oppai Overlord
MegaTenLove wrote...
And my next waifu is always and will always be the greatest, one and only, sexiest bitch in all of Persona 4: Hanako Ohtani.Spoiler:
Wasn't Hanako from Persona 4 the little girl? Like your cousin or something?
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artcellrox
The Grey Knight :y
echoeagle3 wrote...
MegaTenLove wrote...
And my next waifu is always and will always be the greatest, one and only, sexiest bitch in all of Persona 4: Hanako Ohtani.Spoiler:
Wasn't Hanako from Persona 4 the little girl? Like your cousin or something?
That's Nanako, with an N.
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echoeagle3
Oppai Overlord
artcellrox wrote...
echoeagle3 wrote...
MegaTenLove wrote...
And my next waifu is always and will always be the greatest, one and only, sexiest bitch in all of Persona 4: Hanako Ohtani.Spoiler:
Wasn't Hanako from Persona 4 the little girl? Like your cousin or something?
That's Nanako, with an N.
ahh. right. Been too long since I played
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echoeagle3 wrote...
artcellrox wrote...
echoeagle3 wrote...
MegaTenLove wrote...
And my next waifu is always and will always be the greatest, one and only, sexiest bitch in all of Persona 4: Hanako Ohtani.Spoiler:
Wasn't Hanako from Persona 4 the little girl? Like your cousin or something?
That's Nanako, with an N.
ahh. right. Been too long since I played
A good mnemonic to remember her is that her name starts with an "N" for "Never Noticed by her Negligent father". I swear they had a Social Link level of negative two.
@art: Do you have anything to say on the Zelda matter? Or should I've not said anything?
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artcellrox
The Grey Knight :y
Dee::Arc wrote...
@art: Do you have anything to say on the Zelda matter? Or should I've not said anything?I'll have to look up on the matter a little bit more, but the rule of thumb to remember is that, if you can prove a Zelda is different from another, they're both claimable.
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Lughost
the Lugoat
artcellrox wrote...
Dee::Arc wrote...
@art: Do you have anything to say on the Zelda matter? Or should I've not said anything?I'll have to look up on the matter a little bit more, but the rule of thumb to remember is that, if you can prove a Zelda is different from another, they're both claimable.
They're all different Zeldas from different time periods. The idea is that Link and Zelda are constantly reincarnated at the same time in roughly the same place. The image of Link hasn't really changed- slightly less so for Zelda- but in almost every game they are different people.
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Tsamari
C.E.O of Pancakes
Grenouille88 wrote...
artcellrox wrote...
Dee::Arc wrote...
@art: Do you have anything to say on the Zelda matter? Or should I've not said anything?I'll have to look up on the matter a little bit more, but the rule of thumb to remember is that, if you can prove a Zelda is different from another, they're both claimable.
They're all different Zeldas from different time periods. The idea is that Link and Zelda are constantly reincarnated at the same time in roughly the same place. The image of Link hasn't really changed- slightly less so for Zelda- but in almost every game they are different people.
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Sabers Praetor
Unlimited Lewd Works
Tsamari wrote...
Grenouille88 wrote...
artcellrox wrote...
Dee::Arc wrote...
@art: Do you have anything to say on the Zelda matter? Or should I've not said anything?I'll have to look up on the matter a little bit more, but the rule of thumb to remember is that, if you can prove a Zelda is different from another, they're both claimable.
They're all different Zeldas from different time periods. The idea is that Link and Zelda are constantly reincarnated at the same time in roughly the same place. The image of Link hasn't really changed- slightly less so for Zelda- but in almost every game they are different people.
You said Zedlas instead of Zeldas like 5 times.
A couple timelines if needed the 3rd is just silly
Spoiler:
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Tsamari
C.E.O of Pancakes
Sabers Praetor wrote...
Tsamari wrote...
Grenouille88 wrote...
artcellrox wrote...
Dee::Arc wrote...
@art: Do you have anything to say on the Zelda matter? Or should I've not said anything?I'll have to look up on the matter a little bit more, but the rule of thumb to remember is that, if you can prove a Zelda is different from another, they're both claimable.
They're all different Zeldas from different time periods. The idea is that Link and Zelda are constantly reincarnated at the same time in roughly the same place. The image of Link hasn't really changed- slightly less so for Zelda- but in almost every game they are different people.
You said Zedlas instead of Zeldas like 5 times.
A couple timelines if needed the 3rd is just silly
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hmm so i did. and the timelines thing is nice seeing how a lot of people don't have the Hyrule historia book like i do.
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Tsamari wrote...
Spoiler:
There's more to what makes a person an individual than where they came from. They do not possess the same memories, personalities, appearance, hobbies, interest, or motivations; In what way can you say that they are the same other than they have the same spiritual mother figure that they aren't even aware of?
If that's how it works then, knowing that all homo-sapiens share 99.9% of their DNA all derived from the same source if you go back far enough, any claim of a human being would take all things considered human regardless of their feelings, experiences, and personality.
And if you think that sounds stupid, do remember it is the exact same thing your doing right now.
I'm not here to fight with you but you must understand, and I think you do from saying the you see my point, that this is a little unfair. Your not the only Zelda fan on this forum, I'm sure.
I can see one person like the Twilight Princess Zelda and another like the Skyward Sword Zelda--both very different from one another with the only similarity between those two being their name, spiritual connection, and being blonde--but saying "first come first serve for both" even though the users want to claim two different people isn't fair to either of them.
We all want to claim as many as we want to, but that doesn't mean we should justify a loophole so we can get them. I understand where your coming from, but I can't see claiming 20 characters and saying they are all "Technically one person" as anything but exploitative. You should have to pick one favorite like the rest of use are constantly having to do.
That's what I have to say about that. Feel free to continue as you wish and I hope you understand I'm just thinking about making this game fair for everyone. I thank you for reading and am grateful for your time.
@Sabers: Third timeline is best timeline (and is also completely accurate).
@Gren: Just wanted to say that I think your avatar is probably the most adorable rendition of Hong Meiling I've ever seen.