Why do the majority of guys feel this way?

Well, there are plenty of younger people in life who don't get the luxury of having that youthfulness to them due to other diseases getting to them at a much earlier age.

I think if a person is healthy now they should just take it and run for it and take it for what it's worth.

I'm not calling anybody ungrateful, but I don't really see the point in whining about the future when a person doesn't even know for sure what it'll entail.

It's sorta like if you expect it to be bad, it will be bad. But if you keep a neutral or positive attitude about it, things will be fine.
I personally think there's too many stereotypes about older people and that's why people get all :? about the idea.

I mean - my mom is average aged, she's 45 and she's in worse condition then my grandfather is. I don't really know where she'll be in 5 years. I don't expect anybody to respond or really care about that either. The point isn't sympathy, I'm just trying to prove a point that age really doesn't determine health.

Her body is basically eating itself and shutting down on her. Everything from her bones changing shape to her organs being infested with mass.

I don't think anybody would expect that at 45 and she still lives her life as normal as she can and is happy as anybody else. I think that counts for something and life has more meaning if you are.

You only get one life and you're the one who decides if it's your heaven or hell. You don't grow if problems don't occur, and you only get stronger from them.

That was good O_o.

I really struggled with writing this in the first person, I guess I can open up to you guys a bit more.

Alright, I'm going to bring a point of view that I feel almost no one here will be able to bring. In 1997 I contracted Diabetes, type A to be exact, which means I've had it for 12 years now. I am probably going to die younger than any of you, in fact probably somewhere in my late 60's/early 70's. I honestly believe before that time, before I have to deal with all that stupidity, I want to live recklessly; I want to stay up till all hours of the night, I want to drink with friends, I want to kiss girls in the pouring rain, I want to drive faster than the law allows me, I want to play in the big game, I want to spend my money on toys and shit I REALLY don't need: I want to live every day like it's going to be my last (cliche I know). I don't know what the future hold for me, they may discover a cure for diabetes within my life time, but why should I let anything hold me back now. The end of my life will be hard, there is no question so while I have time to enjoy my freedom now I will do everything I possibly can. I do live by most of the diabetic rules, I dont drink excesivly, I don't eat sweets, I don't take hard drugs... I'm a balanced individual; I just don't plan far enough ahead to think about tomorrow and what it may bring.

If you look in it in that perspective then I think anyone should be allowed to do what you're doing. Because everyone is going to die at one point. You have diabetes but you could be run over by a car tomorrow (Which would be your point to live life as if it's your last)

It goes with anybody. That's what I sorta meant by just be happy with how things are, because at a flip of a switch things can change drastically and what you thought may suck could really be a ray of sunshine compared to something else.

On the bright side Waar. Diabetes isn't that deadly so long as you take care of your body and with medication out there you should be fine. Dieing in your late 60's early 70's isn't dieing young.

Everybody should take care of their body regardless of their health because if everybody wants to live a nice long life then your health is the central core to that.

exactly, thats my point, everyone should live as if their days are numbered... because any one of us could die (no matter how unlikely) tomorrow. Why make plans or even worry about your life past the immediate future? Your "bring side" isn't exactly the traditional bright side, basically I have to life a more strict life than regular people with no benefit and a good chance to die 10 years before everyone else... But I really don't mind; my life is pretty sweet now, which is all i care about.

I don't really have any reservations about dying young. There are things I want to do and I'd like to progress a bit more on my spiritual path, if nothing else. You die when you die.

if i ever get to the point where i can't do any of these thing at all:
watch anime/hentai
read manga/doujinshi
snowboard
wakeboard
swing a sword
play video games
visit fakku
surf teh internetz
beat the shit outta people who piss me off

the i wanna die right then and there
i don't wanna be unfulfilled and useless

oooook tough guy, don't hulk out of your muscle shirts for us.

Maybe it (partially) has something to do with hobbies.

Girls typically grow out of their childish hobbies at a young age. After a girl turns eleven, she puts her dolls away and stops playing house, right? And that's it. She's ready to start being a woman. But guys, typically, hang on to childish hobbies well into their twenties, and long afterward (for some). A guy can enjoy reading comic books and watching horror movies at 25 as much as he did at 10. He may hide his hobbies, but he knows that most guys have some sort of childish hobby, even if they all hide them. But that's only younger guys. When you think of guys who are 35 or 50, you imagine that they have given up all their silly hobbies. A 35-year-old doesn't stay up all night playing video games or go to the comic store to see what Spider-man's up to. He spends time with his wife and kids or does work or heads to the bar to pick up chicks (so he can date them and eventually marry them, not just for sex). Actually, scratch the whole hobby thing - maybe it's all about responsibility.

When you're young, you don't have to be tied down. You don't have to be married and have children. You can keep putting it off. But once you're 50, that's it. You either have to find a chick and have kids or face the fact that no one will be able to take care of you in your later years. You'll be the cranky old man that no one likes, and all you'll have are your hobbies.

I don't know. I'm not afraid of growing old, and I don't want to die young, but I am kind of afraid of getting a "professional" job and being a "professional" person. It's the perception that a person who makes $75,000 a year doesn't spend 90% of his time watching anime, reading manga, and doing stuff on the internet. While I do want to have a good job, I also want all my hobbies and interests, and I'm not sure if it's possible to have both. And thinking about the older anime fans I've met makes me feel bad, too, because I want to be into anime for my whole life, but I don't want to be like them, because most of them are creepy and give off an aura that makes me think, "PATHETIC."

We all have to grapple with growing old, and the easiest way to avoid the problem is to not grow old. That's what the guys who say they want to die young want to do - avoid the problem and not grow old. Even if they don't mean it, it's still a fantasy.

Dont really care if i die now or later (--,) im too bored to think about these things

you basically outlined the movie stepbrothers.

If you think about it, a lot of girls toys help 'educate' them for when they're a 'woman' as sexist as it sounds. Play house/kitchen. Baby dolls, etc.

Not that I really care, but that may be a reason why they 'put them away' because most girls seem to think the new trend is to have a real baby at 14.

I grew up with my moms friend's son. So I grew up with powerrangers and video games.
While I don't have any power rangers I still play games when I get a chance, and I watch plenty of anime.

And you'd be surprised about those men in their 30's. Do you know for a fact that they don't do any of that stuff (aside from your parents maybe) or are you assuming?

I know plenty of male teachers who get together and play Halo and drink beer.

When you're usually around a middle aged person it's usually in a professional atmosphere. Usually.
While I'm at work I certainly wouldn't mention how I like to sit on my ass and play video games and watch anime. Well, at Best Buy it was a little easier to mention anime when someone was buying something anime related or video game related ;p

In any case, hobbies are hobbies and if you enjoy them you stick to them.

imma die n my 20s 4 bein sch a hardcor muthafucka. sum tru nigas gunna ice y ass 4 bein 2 geto n stelin all there bitchs n hos fo sghizle. i aint afraid o dem punk azz bitchez. dey juz hatin on m game

I kinda miss lilvon.

dude when i say piss me off i mean like really piss me off. like break something of mine, hurt me, hurt a friend. not petty reasons. i'm too laid back for that. and i will totally break my shirt with muscles of awesomeness

i personally feel i might die in my late 30's or mid 40's only because my mom has diabetes, and she is 35, and is physically 67 or something like that. its almost as if she is physically challenged. hell she is. im sure some of her genes of some sort of problem is gonna hit me when i reach a certain age, if they ahve not already hit me now. my family's biological health history is not too good, so i doubt that even if i were to do something with my life, like become a guitarist like i want to, that im probably gonan be one of those guys who had potential, but died too soon to tell.

(not trying to compare myself to cobain or hendrix, im just saying i might die before i can really show what i am worth, but i dont really want to do early in life. im just trying to come to terms with things)

Most people at the age of around 10 think about how they are going to die as well.

Hi, I'm FPOD have we met?

One of the "guys" ziggy is talking about is me. Why do I say I'm going to be dead by the time of 30? Numerous and severe health problems in my family ranging from heart disease, diabetes, high blood pressure,etc,etc they run the whole gambit. So by logic I know that I won't live to be a 100. Do I trash my body so I can live fast and die young? Absolutely not, I watch what I eat, I exercise as much as my little free time allows. I'm responsible with my health but, some things you can't fight and have to accept the grim reality that those things are out of your control.



Yeah, what the hell happened to him? Did his hardcore life of gang banging finally catch up with him?

no idea, but up until just now I thought you were dead as well.

Ironic how we moan and groan about somebody until they're actually gone. Think that's gonna happen to FreeNania or whatever his name is?