COM3D2 on Nutaku

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zecknor wrote...
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/8yk414/we_are_the_worlds_largest_porn_and_adult_gaming/e2boojq

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ChrisBRosado
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12 hours ago
Some of your critics seem to believe that in order to put a game on your store, you demand that certain types of offensive content are removed. Is that truly the case?

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TeamNutaku
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11 hours ago
Yes, we cannot sell content that is illegal in Canada or the United States or doesn't pass our payment processors compliance rules (these have been dramatically updated since we first started).

But certainly there are some things we can't distribute like underage content, snuff, gore, sex with animals, etc.


From the same Reddit AMA:

[–]ChrisBRosado 2140 points 1 day ago

Will your release of Custom Order Maid 3D2 be identical to the Japanese version, in terms of content?


[–]TeamNutaku[S] 1431 points 1 day ago

That is the plan!
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peb2000 wrote...
zecknor wrote...
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/8yk414/we_are_the_worlds_largest_porn_and_adult_gaming/e2boojq

Question
ChrisBRosado
285 points
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12 hours ago
Some of your critics seem to believe that in order to put a game on your store, you demand that certain types of offensive content are removed. Is that truly the case?

Answer
TeamNutaku
505 points
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11 hours ago
Yes, we cannot sell content that is illegal in Canada or the United States or doesn't pass our payment processors compliance rules (these have been dramatically updated since we first started).

But certainly there are some things we can't distribute like underage content, snuff, gore, sex with animals, etc.


From the same Reddit AMA:

[–]ChrisBRosado 2140 points 1 day ago

Will your release of Custom Order Maid 3D2 be identical to the Japanese version, in terms of content?


[–]TeamNutaku[S] 1431 points 1 day ago

That is the plan!


That's what they say for everything right now. But their store policy still dictates in the end what can and cannot be on their platform. I mean you can always have a plan but in the end a business goes back to their policies. So they might do what they did with other games and badly translate or take out parts that have unconsenual dialogue? There are NTR senarios in CM3D2, not sure about COM3D2.
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Nutaku: "Yes, we cannot sell content that is illegal in Canada or the United States or doesn't pass our payment processors compliance rules (these have been dramatically updated since we first started)."
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/8yk414/we_are_the_worlds_largest_porn_and_adult_gaming/e2boojq/

A JAST user compiled a list of eroge that were banned in Canada in 2011.
https://discuss.jastusa.com/discussion/6919/banned-in-canada-visual-novels/p1

Prohibited Titles
Absolute Obedience
Cosplay Fetish Academy
Critical Point
Discipline -The Record of a Crusade-
Fatal Relations
Gibo: Stepmother's Sin
Heartwork
Hitomi -My Stepsister-
Idols Galore!
Jewel Knights Crusaders
Lightning Warrior Raidy
Lightning Warrior Raidy II
Little My Maid
Pretty Soldier Wars A.D. 2048
Sensei 2
Slave Pageant
The Sagara Family
Tokimeki Check In!
Tsuki -Possession-
Virgin Roster
Yin-Yang! -Xchange Alternative-

(Compiled from the CBSA's Quarterly Lists of Admissible and Prohibited Titles, republished at Gomorrahy.com. Up-to-date from July 2003 through September 2011.)

Notice that this is a large library of titles with diverse themes, most of them still carried by JAST or J-List to this day. Also notice that NONE of these are in Nutaku's store, despite their partnership with JAST. Nutaku is not lying when they say the content they can carry in their store is highly restricted.
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Wonder if Nutaku can bypass content restrictions by simply censoring the written translations while keeping everything else the same? This is what they currently do for Kamihime Project = obvious illegal behaviour is onscreen (rape, bestiality) and the Japanese audio dialogue (which confirms what is going on) is unchanged, but the translated subtitles are rewritten to convey a less-offensive scenario ("No" becomes "yes", "pull it out" becomes "ram it harder", sex with a dolphin becomes sex with a merman etc.)
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Ozraptor wrote...
Wonder if Nutaku can bypass content restrictions by simply censoring the written translations while keeping everything else the same? This is what they currently do for Kamihime Project = obvious illegal behaviour is onscreen (rape, bestiality) and the Japanese audio dialogue (which confirms what is going on) is unchanged, but the translated subtitles are rewritten to convey a less-offensive scenario ("No" becomes "yes", "pull it out" becomes "ram it harder", sex with a dolphin becomes sex with a merman etc.)

You also get nonsensical exchanges like this. Does this even count as a translation anymore?

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They should do what jast do and have an unofficial patch with the actual original content translated correctly.
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Basically, you can also release the game in Japanese. there is already a translation.
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Dannyej wrote...
Basically, you can also release the game in Japanese. there is already a translation.


What are you talking about? If you want the japanese game u can already buy it. And the translation from fan patch is google translate with many missing translations.
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zecknor wrote...
Dannyej wrote...
Basically, you can also release the game in Japanese. there is already a translation.


What are you talking about? If you want the japanese game u can already buy it. And the translation from fan patch is google translate with many missing translations.


I mean, instead of being happy that the Japanese H-games are finally coming to the west, you're in a panic again.

For many Japanese game makers that's a serious thing. Give them time. You must not forget, for you, this is new territory


Censorship is also normal. Nothing that Nutaku or Kiss wants. Simply a Western rule. I am glad that we already have Honey select, soon COM3D2. And hopefully many more will follow.


At the moment you are probably translating yourself. But if you realize that it is sold to us in the West, you will surely buy English-speaking translators.




Until then dunk, and be glad that it comes at all.




Greetings from Germany, sorry for grammatical errors.
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Dannyej wrote...
Censorship is also normal.

Uh no, it's not normal to censor content in adult releases in the West. But you're welcome to count up all the censored (not counting mosaics) and uncensored adult releases in the West and verify this for yourself.
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sanahtlig wrote...
Dannyej wrote...
Censorship is also normal.

Uh no, it's not normal to censor content in adult releases in the West. But you're welcome to count up all the censored (not counting mosaics) and uncensored adult releases in the West and verify this for yourself.



We're talking about Japanese H-games that might be offensive in the west. I also do not want censorship.
But erotic games are not as strict in Japan as they are in the west.


How many real H games are there from Japan that came to the west? Horney select and now COM3D.

-Playhome will never come to the west.
- koikatu will have a hard time too.
Simple, as the characters are partly too childish.
Or force and coercion is involved.


The game Sexy Beach 2 was it I think was for example. censored in the west because of a little girl. although it's not even about sex. just because of too much nudity.


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But that it can also go shows:
-VR kanojo
-Honey select
-soon: COM3D2
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Dannyej wrote...
How many real H games

Please define your usage of this term and justify why it's meaningful to stratify in this manner.
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sanahtlig wrote...
Dannyej wrote...
How many real H games

Please define your usage of this term and justify why it's meaningful to stratify in this manner.



I do not know if I have expressed myself correctly. My English is not the best.

My question was how many Japanese H-games made it to the west.

I think it's great, that it already dares already with the 2nd well-known title.

I just wanted to say:
And it may even come to our censorship on the basis of our law. Not everything that is tolerated in Japanese, must be tolerated here. I hope that does not happen. But it can happen.

Of course I would be happy if everything works out. And FAKKU exlusively brings illusion titles to the west, and Nutaku, KISS :)
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There's hundreds of originally Japanese erogames that have had adult versions released in English. The vast majority have not had any content cut. The majority that do, and were published within the last 5 years, were published or exclusively distributed by Nutaku. Furthermore, the content cuts in question are content that is frequently found in games carried by other English publishers / distributors. I have no monopoly on this information. You don't need to take my word for it. This is verifiable information that is publicly available, and you can use the link in my signature, as well as read the various articles I've written on the topic, to come to this same conclusion.
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Dannyej wrote...

We're talking about Japanese H-games that might be offensive in the west. I also do not want censorship.
But erotic games are not as strict in Japan as they are in the west.


How many real H games are there from Japan that came to the west?



I literally fail to understand what you are talking about when there is JastUSA, MangaGamer around.
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Dashiell DirtyDeedsDunDirtCheap
I don't think people realize that Little Witch Romanesque and Euphoria are fully released in English uncensored and uncut. If these 2 can be there then no one has any excuse to cut content in VNs/games.
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Any updates on this ?
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Dashiell wrote...
I don't think people realize that Little Witch Romanesque and Euphoria are fully released in English uncensored and uncut. If these 2 can be there then no one has any excuse to cut content in VNs/games.


If Imouto Paradise 2 can make it here uncut there shouldn't be issues with other titles with similar content. Nutaku has got censoring things way too often then lie it. Brave Raven Girls was censored at first then they said it was a mistake and they would fix it. Never got fixed but they did allow those characters to not be censored (given huge breasts) later on.

If they had been more open and upfront about all this like the promised this wouldn't be as much of an issue.
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