Celebrity standards
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Sorry if this topic exists somewhere. It seems like I had read a similar topic to this several months ago, but I can't for the life of me find it, but if someone does it'll eventually get moved.
Anyway, anyone else notice that Americans hold the standards for their celebrities a lot lower than Japanese?
Specifically, these rumors about Aya Hirano having dated older men for several years, and having some risque sex tape would not be a shocker in the United States. However, it is apparently actually causing quite a stir in the entertainment industry in Japan, nevertheless appearing to matter to otakus. Several 2ch users are acting as though they will never watch (and by extension read) Haruhi ever again because of how "awful" Hirano has become.
In the United States it would be in the news for a couple of days, the celebrity might have to make a public apology, but typically after that their careers move on. Having a sex tape is like the new norm in Hollywood.
I guess it ultimately amounts to different cultures, but I'm just flabbergasted that some Japanese are reacting so harshly to the idea that Aya Hiarno isn't the perfect, Saint-like, voice actor her agency wants her to be.
Anyway, anyone else notice that Americans hold the standards for their celebrities a lot lower than Japanese?
Specifically, these rumors about Aya Hirano having dated older men for several years, and having some risque sex tape would not be a shocker in the United States. However, it is apparently actually causing quite a stir in the entertainment industry in Japan, nevertheless appearing to matter to otakus. Several 2ch users are acting as though they will never watch (and by extension read) Haruhi ever again because of how "awful" Hirano has become.
In the United States it would be in the news for a couple of days, the celebrity might have to make a public apology, but typically after that their careers move on. Having a sex tape is like the new norm in Hollywood.
I guess it ultimately amounts to different cultures, but I'm just flabbergasted that some Japanese are reacting so harshly to the idea that Aya Hiarno isn't the perfect, Saint-like, voice actor her agency wants her to be.
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Societal differences. Scandal, drama and the like are the norm in America and it feeds off itself.
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Ive read about that and I think its ridiculous too, shes only human, and people are openly complaining about it, where as in America it wouldnt really matter. People need to just leave it alone, its her life.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
That because otaku's are gay and are afraid of real life vaginas and relationship... too much jerking of hentai and not enough talking to humans. Repressed sexual desired leads to the stuff in zak's hdd... squid sex and tubgirl.
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Eh. She's "horrified" her fans a number of times in the past and they've yet to abandon her. The cultures are more similar than people will give them credit for. People crave their celebrity fix and the more of it the better.
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I don't think that is bad that they hace a sex tape, I mean it's her life, so let it be. those freaks are just that freaks, thay can't accept that the seiyuu and idol with right to privacy and a life of their own.
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Sounds like old school hollywood. back in the olden days, the movie studios pretty much owned the stars. they made them change their names, decided what, where and who with the stars were seen in public.
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Cultural differences.
Not that tough to figure out; take your average 16 year-old girls from both America and Japan, and compare.
Not that there aren't exceptions to the rule- of course- but generally speaking...
Not to single out women- but they definitely take the spotlight most of the time.
Anyways, all I'm saying is that in Western societies in general- standards of propriety have gone to fuckshitall. We just don't give a shit about anything (except the soccer moms and FCC). Japanese culture in general is rather straight-laced.
Not that tough to figure out; take your average 16 year-old girls from both America and Japan, and compare.
Not that there aren't exceptions to the rule- of course- but generally speaking...
Not to single out women- but they definitely take the spotlight most of the time.
Anyways, all I'm saying is that in Western societies in general- standards of propriety have gone to fuckshitall. We just don't give a shit about anything (except the soccer moms and FCC). Japanese culture in general is rather straight-laced.
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Some Japanese otaku said they were going to stop reading a manga because the main character was revealed to have had sex before. You can't be surprised at anything those hardcore fans do or say.
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jmason
Curious and Wondering
You're right, it may be the cultural differences.
In Japan, they hold celebrities to a standard of what we call the "clean-cut" image. Americans don't hold theirs to this ideal image - I mean, you got the hip-hop culture (most rappers got shady records), rock stars (some who smoke and do sleazy parties), pampered teen pop idols, and Jersey Shore. There's no way America would hold someone like Steve-O to ideal citizen standards.
Except the usual gravure and AV actors and actresses, most of the Japanese celebrities carry burdens of being model people. You know, typical celebrity that smiles, dresses nicely, pleases the fans and being clean as a whistle. They carry advertisements, clothing lines, products and their entertainment companies' "image" on their backs. One big mistake, one salacious controversy, one juicy scandal later and suddenly their affiliations distance themselves, not wanting their companies to be associated with bad news. And their culture assert this a lot, since the Japanese habit of associating themselves with good people and things ensures their own self-image is presentable to society.
In Japan, they hold celebrities to a standard of what we call the "clean-cut" image. Americans don't hold theirs to this ideal image - I mean, you got the hip-hop culture (most rappers got shady records), rock stars (some who smoke and do sleazy parties), pampered teen pop idols, and Jersey Shore. There's no way America would hold someone like Steve-O to ideal citizen standards.
Except the usual gravure and AV actors and actresses, most of the Japanese celebrities carry burdens of being model people. You know, typical celebrity that smiles, dresses nicely, pleases the fans and being clean as a whistle. They carry advertisements, clothing lines, products and their entertainment companies' "image" on their backs. One big mistake, one salacious controversy, one juicy scandal later and suddenly their affiliations distance themselves, not wanting their companies to be associated with bad news. And their culture assert this a lot, since the Japanese habit of associating themselves with good people and things ensures their own self-image is presentable to society.
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Cultural difference is the dominating subject in this post. Japan was based off of the honor system, where anything you do reflects back upon who you work for, your family, and all those that you associate with. Still happens in modern day Japan. Where as here in America, we just do give a rat's ass. I mean, you still have extremists who say the same thing the Japs said, but most of us are mellow and just mind our own business.
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Are you kidding me? If I ever saw Lindsey Lohan on the street I punch her right in the cooter sack and scream "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO YOURSELF!?".
America judges in it's own way.
America judges in it's own way.
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imnotyourdude wrote...
Are you kidding me? If I ever saw Lindsey Lohan on the street I punch her right in the cooter sack and scream "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO YOURSELF!?".America judges in it's own way.
Definitely.
How many people actually like Paris Hilton, for example? A lot of people few her as an idiotic whore that's famous for being an idiotic whore.
America is more lax when it comes to celebrities doing crazy and/or stupid shit, but we can be very judgmental. Not too long ago, every media outlet blasted Arnold Schwarzenegger for having that secret kid. Before that, a lot of people despised Tiger Woods for cheating on his wife.
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In Japan they still think women shouldn't be publically sexual for the most part. And if they're a celeb there, they have to be pure and married to their fans, somehow.
Their mentality creeps me out to be honest. It's like how in some extremest cases, women's virginities (at least in a physical sense via hymen, which is often broken in physical activity or masturbation) are checked by male members of their community. Creepy.
Their mentality creeps me out to be honest. It's like how in some extremest cases, women's virginities (at least in a physical sense via hymen, which is often broken in physical activity or masturbation) are checked by male members of their community. Creepy.
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FinalBoss
#levelupyourgrind
K-1 wrote...
imnotyourdude wrote...
Are you kidding me? If I ever saw Lindsey Lohan on the street I punch her right in the cooter sack and scream "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO YOURSELF!?".America judges in it's own way.
Definitely.
How many people actually like Paris Hilton, for example? A lot of people few her as an idiotic whore that's famous for being an idiotic whore.
America is more lax when it comes to celebrities doing crazy and/or stupid shit, but we can be very judgmental. Not too long ago, every media outlet blasted Arnold Schwarzenegger for having that secret kid. Before that, a lot of people despised Tiger Woods for cheating on his wife.
I agree with these. I may as well mention the Kanye West antics that got him pretty much hated throughout the country.