Demons, Ghost and Spirits(Oh My!)
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Since I was little I've always believed in supernatural things like Ghost, Aliens, Demons, Angels etc... but as I got older I thought 'Because I've never seen these things myself they aren't real' but recently I've looked into many things like Spirits and Demons and come to the conclusion... This shit is real. I've watched somebody get possessed by a demon and let me tell you it isn't fun, people claim Christians are making that crap up but let me tell you Demons are real... and they can possess you. Many don't believe in demons or spirits because they think Dead is Dead or they disagree with Christianity, and thats okay because you don't have to. If you look at demons and spirits from the perspective of people in that day without a general knowledge of science and what we believe as 'Knowing everything' on this tiny planet of course they'll think it has to do with the devil. But if you look at it from a scientific perspective Demons and Ghost have NEVER been proven fake and by the looks of it the Government knows their real. Somehow the Catholics know how to drive them away so maybe religion DOES tie in with these creepy crawlers.
But what do you guys think?
But what do you guys think?
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DonSauce wrote...
Since I was little I've always believed in supernatural things like Ghost, Aliens, Demons, Angels etc... but as I got older I thought 'Because I've never seen these things myself they aren't real' but recently I've looked into many things like Spirits and Demons and come to the conclusion... This shit is real. I've watched somebody get possessed by a demon and let me tell you it isn't fun, people claim Christians are making that crap up but let me tell you Demons are real... and they can possess you. Many don't believe in demons or spirits because they think Dead is Dead or they disagree with Christianity, and thats okay because you don't have to. If you look at demons and spirits from the perspective of people in that day without a general knowledge of science and what we believe as 'Knowing everything' on this tiny planet of course they'll think it has to do with the devil. But if you look at it from a scientific perspective Demons and Ghost have NEVER been proven fake and by the looks of it the Government knows their real. Somehow the Catholics know how to drive them away so maybe religion DOES tie in with these creepy crawlers.But what do you guys think?
I won't believe you until you show me some proof =]
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I wouldn't say that this is SD material, more like random now that the Paranormal section is gone.
But I'll play ball.
Personally I have never believed in demons or ghosts since I believe that they are all in the individuals head, but this doesn't make them any less "dangerous" since mind is such a powerful tool. Just as I believe that the figment of "God" is something imaginary that people cling to in a false sense of security and comfort. But this doesn't make it any less effective.
If someone is persuaded/crazy enough to seriously believe that they are possessed, then they are possessed in some way.
I used to call myself a Christian and I still have a Benedictine Cross hanging from my bedpost to ward of demons and the like, since even if I know that they aren't real it makes me feel a little safer. These things are all in your head.
wat?
But I'll play ball.
Personally I have never believed in demons or ghosts since I believe that they are all in the individuals head, but this doesn't make them any less "dangerous" since mind is such a powerful tool. Just as I believe that the figment of "God" is something imaginary that people cling to in a false sense of security and comfort. But this doesn't make it any less effective.
If someone is persuaded/crazy enough to seriously believe that they are possessed, then they are possessed in some way.
I used to call myself a Christian and I still have a Benedictine Cross hanging from my bedpost to ward of demons and the like, since even if I know that they aren't real it makes me feel a little safer. These things are all in your head.
DonSauce wrote...
by the looks of it the Government knows their real.wat?
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The truth is I can't show you solid evidence unless you can see it with your eyes and believe it's real. Just like you don't see air but you know it's there is how I look at it. You can watch the thousands of Tv shows that air about them or follow around priest that specialize in exorcism (I wouldn't advise that though). I can tell you if your in too much disbelief to study the spirit world and to NEVER and I can't stress Never enough, EVER do something rash. Because you may not believe in them, but they sure as hell believe in you. I swear to you I watched this idiot open himself to be used by spirits and ended up being possessed. It creeped me the fuck out man.
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DonSauce wrote...
The truth is I can't show you solid evidence unless you can see it with your eyes and believe it's real.Here it is, as long as I don't believe it's real it isn't. It's when I start to believe that these things come forth. I was really into this kinda stuff when I was a kid and I have studied quite a lot around both the occult and around Christianity. And I have yet to see a non-believer be possessed in any way, this is all just superstitious humbug my dear friend.
DonSauce wrote...
Just like you don't see air but you know it's thereNo, absolutely not even remotely alike. The air's presence can be proved with science.
I meant to say The Vatican, sorry!
You know that you can edit your posts right?
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Of fucking course they're real. They're all around us. Didn't you see who got elected into the White House? That's gotta be some black magic right there. But I honestly believe demons, ghosts, and spirits are out there. My reasoning being that after hearing about the end of F.E.A.R. 2, where you get raped by Alma, I've realized that fucking a ghost would be hot. As to what they're capable of, I believe that's where we differ. I don't believe they have much, if any, influence on our world; they can only watch and observe. There are exceptions, but I've yet to see one.
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Oh, jesus fucking christ.

Paranormal shit is about as real as me claiming Rosie o'Donnell will be thin by tomorrow. Not gonna happen. Because you think it'd be hot to think they exist, does not mean that they are. I'd like to see some proof if you are going to claim with absolute certainty that ghosts and demons and general paranormal humbuggery are real. If you experience this shit, I suggest you get your head checked. The power of human imagination sometimes over rides reality. Don't get too worked over it if you can't prove it.

Paranormal shit is about as real as me claiming Rosie o'Donnell will be thin by tomorrow. Not gonna happen. Because you think it'd be hot to think they exist, does not mean that they are. I'd like to see some proof if you are going to claim with absolute certainty that ghosts and demons and general paranormal humbuggery are real. If you experience this shit, I suggest you get your head checked. The power of human imagination sometimes over rides reality. Don't get too worked over it if you can't prove it.
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Space Cowboy wrote...
Oh, jesus fucking christ.
Paranormal shit is about as real as me claiming Rosie o'Donnell will be thin by tomorrow. Not gonna happen. Because you think it'd be hot to think they exist, does not mean that they are. I'd like to see some proof if you are going to claim with absolute certainty that ghosts and demons and general paranormal humbuggery are real. If you experience this shit, I suggest you get your head checked. The power of human imagination sometimes over rides reality. Don't get too worked over it if you can't prove it.
^This. he says everything I want to say and more.
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Oh you silly, illiterate, ignorant wankers. I said, "I believe", didn't I? I never "proclaimed" anything.
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NeoStriker wrote...
Of fucking course they're real. You silly little git. Get your facts straight, you're the one trying to spew it all.
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...That was another obvious exaggeration. I even said, "But I honestly..." as in, everything I said beforehand was "wrong", as that would be the correct situation to use the word, "but". I also included, "honestly".
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Then let me confuzzle you even more. So let's say I make a hypothesis, "There are ghosts near us". Now, listen closely. In this world there exists contrapositives, which are the complete opposites of the original statement. In this case, it would be, "There aren't any ghosts that's not near us". So "There are ghosts near us" and "There aren't any ghosts that's not near us" are equivalent.
To prove the original statement by experimentation, I would have to merely observe a ghost while in this world. And to prove it's equivalent counterpart by experimentation, I could observe anything that's not around me. For example, "Hmmm, there's a bird all the way over there. It's not a ghost, and it's not near me". Of course, to prove it this way, I would have to observe everything that's not around me. But the fact is, even if quintessentially, observing that far-away bird added to the proof that there is a ghost near me.
To prove the original statement by experimentation, I would have to merely observe a ghost while in this world. And to prove it's equivalent counterpart by experimentation, I could observe anything that's not around me. For example, "Hmmm, there's a bird all the way over there. It's not a ghost, and it's not near me". Of course, to prove it this way, I would have to observe everything that's not around me. But the fact is, even if quintessentially, observing that far-away bird added to the proof that there is a ghost near me.
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NeoStriker wrote...
Of fucking course they're real. They're all around us. Didn't you see who got elected into the White House? That's gotta be some black magic right there. But I honestly believe demons, ghosts, and spirits are out there. My reasoning being that after hearing about the end of F.E.A.R. 2, where you get raped by Alma, I've realized that fucking a ghost would be hot. As to what they're capable of, I believe that's where we differ. I don't believe they have much, if any, influence on our world; they can only watch and observe. There are exceptions, but I've yet to see one.Wait... When does this happen at the end of F.E.A.R. 2?
Spoiler:
On topic...
I believe in it because I beleive in the whole spiritual aura thing and all that, plus I can have "seen" one so I can say I believe in them.
If you choose to believe and try to find it it will show, If your a skeptic, maybe, but if you dont believe in it, your mind chooses to not see it.
I hope that makes sense >.<
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There's a ghost in my attic.I don't really believe in the paranormal, I have to see something before I believe it.
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NeoStriker wrote...
Then let me confuzzle you even more. So let's say I make a hypothesis, "There are ghosts near us". Now, listen closely. In this world there exists contrapositives, which are the complete opposites of the original statement. In this case, it would be, "There aren't any ghosts that's not near us". So "There are ghosts near us" and "There aren't any ghosts that's not near us" are equivalent.To prove the original statement by experimentation, I would have to merely observe a ghost while in this world. And to prove it's equivalent counterpart by experimentation, I could observe anything that's not around me. For example, "Hmmm, there's a bird all the way over there. It's not a ghost, and it's not near me". Of course, to prove it this way, I would have to observe everything that's not around me. But the fact is, even if quintessentially, observing that far-away bird added to the proof that there is a ghost near me.
So you basically just took the common "Observe what's not there" and amped it up about a thousand times. By all means, ghosts could be real, in fact they could just be the spent energy being released from the body upon death. How that energy being made up of only energy, could form into something else without an energy conversion device is beyond me. In fact I would say that it's impossible. I have just proved that ghosts do not exist using grade 9 science. I also lied. Ghosts and demons are not real. Posession can be explained by psychology.
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smashspite wrote...
NeoStriker wrote...
Of fucking course they're real. They're all around us. Didn't you see who got elected into the White House? That's gotta be some black magic right there. But I honestly believe demons, ghosts, and spirits are out there. My reasoning being that after hearing about the end of F.E.A.R. 2, where you get raped by Alma, I've realized that fucking a ghost would be hot. As to what they're capable of, I believe that's where we differ. I don't believe they have much, if any, influence on our world; they can only watch and observe. There are exceptions, but I've yet to see one.Wait... When does this happen at the end of F.E.A.R. 2?
Spoiler:
On topic...
I believe in it because I beleive in the whole spiritual aura thing and all that, plus I can have "seen" one so I can say I believe in them.
If you choose to believe and try to find it it will show, If your a skeptic, maybe, but if you dont believe in it, your mind chooses to not see it.
I hope that makes sense >.<
Well, I mean, how do you think she got it?
Clou wrote...
So you basically just took the common "Observe what's not there" and amped it up about a thousand times. By all means, ghosts could be real, in fact they could just be the spent energy being released from the body upon death. How that energy being made up of only energy, could form into something else without an energy conversion device is beyond me. In fact I would say that it's impossible. I have just proved that ghosts do not exist using grade 9 science. I also lied. Ghosts and demons are not real. Posession can be explained by psychology.*Sigh* Yes, basically, it's to "observe what should be there, but isn't". Amping it up a thousand times...well, it's only in your opinion if you think it so grand. I find it trivial. Also, it's clear that you're still IN the ninth grade.
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NeoStriker wrote...
smashspite wrote...
NeoStriker wrote...
Of fucking course they're real. They're all around us. Didn't you see who got elected into the White House? That's gotta be some black magic right there. But I honestly believe demons, ghosts, and spirits are out there. My reasoning being that after hearing about the end of F.E.A.R. 2, where you get raped by Alma, I've realized that fucking a ghost would be hot. As to what they're capable of, I believe that's where we differ. I don't believe they have much, if any, influence on our world; they can only watch and observe. There are exceptions, but I've yet to see one.Wait... When does this happen at the end of F.E.A.R. 2?
Spoiler:
On topic...
I believe in it because I beleive in the whole spiritual aura thing and all that, plus I can have "seen" one so I can say I believe in them.
If you choose to believe and try to find it it will show, If your a skeptic, maybe, but if you dont believe in it, your mind chooses to not see it.
I hope that makes sense >.<
Well, I mean, how do you think she got it?
Clou wrote...
So you basically just took the common "Observe what's not there" and amped it up about a thousand times. By all means, ghosts could be real, in fact they could just be the spent energy being released from the body upon death. How that energy being made up of only energy, could form into something else without an energy conversion device is beyond me. In fact I would say that it's impossible. I have just proved that ghosts do not exist using grade 9 science. I also lied. Ghosts and demons are not real. Posession can be explained by psychology.*Sigh* Yes, basically, it's to "observe what should be there, but isn't". Amping it up a thousand times...well, it's only in your opinion if you think it so grand. I find it trivial. Also, it's clear that you're still IN the ninth grade.
Pretty sure seeing ghosts could be a sign of schizophrenia bro, you should check that out.