enlisting. what the bloody hell is wrong with me?
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so, ive been talking to a recruiter for the past two weeks, and my buddy scott, who is a army vet, and im gonna take the plunge. and i have been questioning my sainity almost daily ever since i decided, especially since scott talked to me about basic, the nitty gritty shit, all the insain, or what seems insain to me right now, pt the have.
something you should udnerstand, im a fairley big guy, and whilve ive been workout out with scott, who NEVER does anything half ass, and has a rather extream workout reutine, and i have gone from 320 in late march, to 265 now, i still have a hell of a long way to go, and the really nuts thing, i asked him to step up the workout, to REALLY go DI on my ass, and im starting it next monday, and quiting smoking saturday, the cancer sticks are no longer an option.
and like i said, every hour of every day i feel both exited, and scared shitless, im told by him thats normal but jesus its nuts, i am really questioning if im insain, well not literly but you get the point. i plan on getting down to 210-200 by the end of the summer, but he way were gonna be going im guessing it will be mid to early july. and to be honest, im scared shitless of it, i know i can do it, endure it, muscle though, its how i got this far but jesus. im sure everyone, Americans at least know the reputation of our armed forces, there basic training and whatnot.
the point of this topic is just askin for input, are there any soldiers out there that sympathize with me? know what im feeling? gone, or going through it? how did you deal with it? if your not army, how WOULD you deal with it? or try to deal with it?
one thing id like to add, one of my main fears, is what scott was telling me, that they break you down, every limit and wall you think you had they force you through, and for some people this changes them on a fundamental level, im afraid of that happening to me, i am who i am becase of my hopes dreams and goals, and i dont want this to kill them, i dont think it will but its that itching fear at the back of your neck ya know? if anyone can help me out it would be deeply appreciated.
something you should udnerstand, im a fairley big guy, and whilve ive been workout out with scott, who NEVER does anything half ass, and has a rather extream workout reutine, and i have gone from 320 in late march, to 265 now, i still have a hell of a long way to go, and the really nuts thing, i asked him to step up the workout, to REALLY go DI on my ass, and im starting it next monday, and quiting smoking saturday, the cancer sticks are no longer an option.
and like i said, every hour of every day i feel both exited, and scared shitless, im told by him thats normal but jesus its nuts, i am really questioning if im insain, well not literly but you get the point. i plan on getting down to 210-200 by the end of the summer, but he way were gonna be going im guessing it will be mid to early july. and to be honest, im scared shitless of it, i know i can do it, endure it, muscle though, its how i got this far but jesus. im sure everyone, Americans at least know the reputation of our armed forces, there basic training and whatnot.
the point of this topic is just askin for input, are there any soldiers out there that sympathize with me? know what im feeling? gone, or going through it? how did you deal with it? if your not army, how WOULD you deal with it? or try to deal with it?
one thing id like to add, one of my main fears, is what scott was telling me, that they break you down, every limit and wall you think you had they force you through, and for some people this changes them on a fundamental level, im afraid of that happening to me, i am who i am becase of my hopes dreams and goals, and i dont want this to kill them, i dont think it will but its that itching fear at the back of your neck ya know? if anyone can help me out it would be deeply appreciated.
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Grayjack
Brbrbrbr
I'm joining the Air Force soon. I've already taken the ASVAB. All I have to do is take my medical examination. I know what you mean about being scared. Joining the military is a big commitment, and you have to be dedicated. It's something I really want to do. That's what I say to myself when I feel scared.
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heh same here, about being dedicated anyway, i havent really done any paperwork yet as im still pretty far out of regs, i took a practice asvab tho and i was told i did really good, i didint actuly see the scores the recruiter just told me, how does the scoring system work exactly?
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Grayjack
Brbrbrbr
There are 9 sections to the test:
Word Knowledge (WK)
Arithmetic Reasoning (AR)
Mechanical Comprehension (MC)
Automotive and Shop Information (AS)
Electronics Information (EI)
Mathematics Knowledge (MK)
General Science (GS)
Paragraph Comprehension (PC)
Assembling Objects (AO)
In the Air Force the scores are divided into five categories. I'm not sure if they're the same in the Army. The five sections were:
General
Electrical
Mechanical
Admin
Overall
You need at least a 31 Overall to join the Army, a 32 to join the Marines, a 40 for Coast Guard, and a 50 for Navy and Air Force. It's a very easy test, but it's long and boring.
Word Knowledge (WK)
Arithmetic Reasoning (AR)
Mechanical Comprehension (MC)
Automotive and Shop Information (AS)
Electronics Information (EI)
Mathematics Knowledge (MK)
General Science (GS)
Paragraph Comprehension (PC)
Assembling Objects (AO)
In the Air Force the scores are divided into five categories. I'm not sure if they're the same in the Army. The five sections were:
General
Electrical
Mechanical
Admin
Overall
You need at least a 31 Overall to join the Army, a 32 to join the Marines, a 40 for Coast Guard, and a 50 for Navy and Air Force. It's a very easy test, but it's long and boring.
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yea, just looked it up myself. im not to worried about it, im more then confidant in that, if i could just get the damn jitters to go away lol
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I was in Air Force ROTC for three years, but since EA slots are hard, I've decided to enlist into the National Guard and do their SMP Program, which will put me in Army ROTC. It's actually a really sweet deal compared to Air Force, though I will be missing it. Pretty much, I'll be missing a semester for Basic and Advanced Training and should get around 5k, then upwards of 1k a month, not to mention Loan Repayment and Tuition Waiver. Also, recruiting new people nets another 2k. On top of all of this, I'll be graduating as a 2nd Lt. in the Army and probably qualify for a ton of jobs.
Despite this, I do honor those who enlist. After all, I am basically enlisting as it is, although my National Guard Contract will be null and void upon returning from Advanced Training. Most likely, I'll be 11B, which is Infantry.
Despite this, I do honor those who enlist. After all, I am basically enlisting as it is, although my National Guard Contract will be null and void upon returning from Advanced Training. Most likely, I'll be 11B, which is Infantry.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
They're going to love you in boot... Prepare for dudes in your face and APFT ... hell on a course.. 2mile run under 10 mins and tear gas training... if you just going to be infantry then your going to beautiful South Carolina.
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Kind of Important
A ray of Tsunlight.
Honestly, it won't be as bad as you think. Granted I went though Navy boot camp, so it's not identical, but close enough.
First off, be in shape. Chances are, even if you're a little on the out of shape side, your recruiter will let you run off to boot anyway. Make sure you can actually pass the PT tests you will have to take before you leave.
Next, it's all a giant mind game, they will intentionally criticize every little mistake you make, every wrong answer no matter how slight will be jumped on, at first. It's all about breaking you down. You will get little to no sleep the first three or four days. I went 46 hours before I got to sleep the first time.
But as the time goes on, they will ease up, you and the other guys in your division will eventually start being more sure of what you're doing, less mistakes, more team work, and therefore less pressure from your DI's. (They were called RDCs in the Navy, but they serve the exact same purpose.)
Lastly, it is a huge decision to enlist, it will be anywhere from 2 to potentially 20 or more years of your life. And I promise it's nothing like you're used to. Be sure you want to enlist, because you can't just quit if you don't want to do it anymore.
That said, it is a very good idea. You can get good training, make decent money. (You won't be driving BMWs anywhere, but you'll never go hungry.) and employers love former servicemen. So have at it.
I was medically discharged after awhile in the Navy, but I am able to re-enlist, and I am thinking of going Army. Probably some kind of aviation maintenance. So I'm in the same boat you are at the moment.
First off, be in shape. Chances are, even if you're a little on the out of shape side, your recruiter will let you run off to boot anyway. Make sure you can actually pass the PT tests you will have to take before you leave.
Next, it's all a giant mind game, they will intentionally criticize every little mistake you make, every wrong answer no matter how slight will be jumped on, at first. It's all about breaking you down. You will get little to no sleep the first three or four days. I went 46 hours before I got to sleep the first time.
But as the time goes on, they will ease up, you and the other guys in your division will eventually start being more sure of what you're doing, less mistakes, more team work, and therefore less pressure from your DI's. (They were called RDCs in the Navy, but they serve the exact same purpose.)
Lastly, it is a huge decision to enlist, it will be anywhere from 2 to potentially 20 or more years of your life. And I promise it's nothing like you're used to. Be sure you want to enlist, because you can't just quit if you don't want to do it anymore.
That said, it is a very good idea. You can get good training, make decent money. (You won't be driving BMWs anywhere, but you'll never go hungry.) and employers love former servicemen. So have at it.
I was medically discharged after awhile in the Navy, but I am able to re-enlist, and I am thinking of going Army. Probably some kind of aviation maintenance. So I'm in the same boat you are at the moment.
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hnn thanks guys, espcaily koi, thats more or less what scott, my ex army freind is telling me, and its a really big thing i know, but i also know i can handle it and it will be one of the best things i can do at this point, which is why i am doing this. so thanks again.
on a side note, i really didint think that many peeps would be able to talk bout this givin the nature of the site n whatnot lol
on a side note, i really didint think that many peeps would be able to talk bout this givin the nature of the site n whatnot lol
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My cousin just got back from Iraq and he told me this time is the worst time to join the military.Its not like before where you joined for life changing experience's.Today's military just wants you to kill over at Iraq.My cousin is already retired.He joined in 1990. Joining the military is a big move.Just imagine all you are giving up for a new life style.Because joining the military is not a career its a life style that is what my recruiter told me when i wanted to join the marines a year ago but i never made it into the military because i got a low grade on the ASVAB
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yes there is a risk, yes once i join and come back to civilian life my reserve unit might be activated. i might be sent across the world to be uncle sams lapdog yes. but is it worth it? in my mind yes. from my veiw of the world, this is more then worth it. i realize theres a risk, but im willing to take it. and if i do get deployed, so be it.