Even been in a "Noo! stop! it feels good!" situation?
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StaticChange wrote...
As a simple example, there are a lot more women who lose body control when they orgasm than guys. Thats gotta be an indicator of pleasure right? (I don't necessarily mean full body control)Or an indicator of popular opinion not knowing the difference between male ejaculation and male orgasm. Ziiiiiiiing!
The times when I want her to stop and keep going at the same time are usually about something being so enjoyable that it feels like my heart'll stop. Especially in the beginning that used to unsettle me quite a bit! ;|
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StaticChange wrote...
Haburi-Chan wrote...
During sex I say 'ah no' and 'stop' pretty much on purpose. Some guys like it, some guys don't. Ayanami is right though. It's charming when the person you like can't control himself sometimes out of pure love.This seems like one of those things that you will inevitably regret saying.... besides if he can't control himself its probably lust not love =P.
But contrary to popular belief and whatever he may tell you, guys are very capable of stopping.
Maybe its just me, but I think women enjoy sex more than guys do. As a simple example, there are a lot more women who lose body control when they orgasm than guys. Thats gotta be an indicator of pleasure right? (I don't necessarily mean full body control)
Of course I suppose the counter argument is not all women orgasm during sex =/.
Well...can't I just believe it's love? *sniff* ;_; ha ha
And being lusted after isn't that bad! kind of flattering so I don't mind either...even though a mixture of love and lust is preffered.
I can not say who enjoys sex more. I think it depends on who you are with. A lot of sex is honestly a mental thing so if you are into that person and what they are doing to you chances are it'll get you off. If not, you can still feel good but are less likely to climax... I dont know if that is true of all women but it is for me at least.
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THE ECONOMY wrote...
Or an indicator of popular opinion not knowing the difference between male ejaculation and male orgasm. Ziiiiiiiing!
The times when I want her to stop and keep going at the same time are usually about something being so enjoyable that it feels like my heart'll stop. Especially in the beginning that used to unsettle me quite a bit! ;|
95% of the time the two are tied together. Unless you are going to argue that it isn't actually an orgasm unless you lose control. I think that's a pretty radical view though.
Ayanami00 wrote...
Well...can't I just believe it's love? *sniff* ;_; ha ha And being lusted after isn't that bad! kind of flattering so I don't mind either...even though a mixture of love and lust is preffered.
I can not say who enjoys sex more. I think it depends on who you are with. A lot of sex is honestly a mental thing so if you are into that person and what they are doing to you chances are it'll get you off. If not, you can still feel good but are less likely to climax... I dont know if that is true of all women but it is for me at least.
No... I suppose being lusted after isn't that bad =P. I only really meant that anyone who says they cant stop out of *love* is probably really talking about lust. Love is mutual, and if you can't or won't stop yourself from doing something that's not mutual anymore because now its just you. Lust on the other hand, is fundamentally an addiction, which fits the description much better. Of course if your significant other is just playing coy that's another story also.
But to be more on topic... there are certain times where something feels really good, but its also too much stimulation. That's kinda a "Noo! stop! it feels good!" situation right?
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Ayanami00 wrote...
StaticChange wrote...
Haburi-Chan wrote...
During sex I say 'ah no' and 'stop' pretty much on purpose. Some guys like it, some guys don't. Ayanami is right though. It's charming when the person you like can't control himself sometimes out of pure love.This seems like one of those things that you will inevitably regret saying.... besides if he can't control himself its probably lust not love =P.
But contrary to popular belief and whatever he may tell you, guys are very capable of stopping.
Maybe its just me, but I think women enjoy sex more than guys do. As a simple example, there are a lot more women who lose body control when they orgasm than guys. Thats gotta be an indicator of pleasure right? (I don't necessarily mean full body control)
Of course I suppose the counter argument is not all women orgasm during sex =/.
Well...can't I just believe it's love? *sniff* ;_; ha ha
And being lusted after isn't that bad! kind of flattering so I don't mind either...even though a mixture of love and lust is preffered.
I can not say who enjoys sex more. I think it depends on who you are with. A lot of sex is honestly a mental thing so if you are into that person and what they are doing to you chances are it'll get you off. If not, you can still feel good but are less likely to climax... I dont know if that is true of all women but it is for me at least.
Ayanami rapes chubby geeks for breakfast
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Well, to answer the topic question I have been in a situation like that before. But I was the one doing it to them....specifically a neck rub. I would randomly walk up to someone and do it for a few seconds and stop and they go "That felt good. Keep doing it." Oddly enough, this has happened with more than one person >__>
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Humpa wrote...
Well, to answer the topic question I have been in a situation like that before. But I was the one doing it to them....specifically a neck rub. I would randomly walk up to someone and do it for a few seconds and stop and they go "That felt good. Keep doing it." Oddly enough, this has happened with more than one person >__>wait you would do this to friends right? when you say random people i think people you dont know
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StaticChange wrote...
THE ECONOMY wrote...
Or an indicator of popular opinion not knowing the difference between male ejaculation and male orgasm. Ziiiiiiiing!
The times when I want her to stop and keep going at the same time are usually about something being so enjoyable that it feels like my heart'll stop. Especially in the beginning that used to unsettle me quite a bit! ;|
95% of the time the two are tied together. Unless you are going to argue that it isn't actually an orgasm unless you lose control. I think that's a pretty radical view though.
Ayanami00 wrote...
Well...can't I just believe it's love? *sniff* ;_; ha ha And being lusted after isn't that bad! kind of flattering so I don't mind either...even though a mixture of love and lust is preffered.
I can not say who enjoys sex more. I think it depends on who you are with. A lot of sex is honestly a mental thing so if you are into that person and what they are doing to you chances are it'll get you off. If not, you can still feel good but are less likely to climax... I dont know if that is true of all women but it is for me at least.
No... I suppose being lusted after isn't that bad =P. I only really meant that anyone who says they cant stop out of *love* is probably really talking about lust. Love is mutual, and if you can't or won't stop yourself from doing something that's not mutual anymore because now its just you. Lust on the other hand, is fundamentally an addiction, which fits the description much better. Of course if your significant other is just playing coy that's another story also.
But to be more on topic... there are certain times where something feels really good, but its also too much stimulation. That's kinda a "Noo! stop! it feels good!" situation right?
I don't regret it. =P I again agree with Ayanami: It's not bad being lusted over. =P That's actually really nice to hear. And let me in my fantasies and confuse lust and love~~
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StaticChange wrote...
95% of the time the two are tied together. Unless you are going to argue that it isn't actually an orgasm unless you lose control. I think that's a pretty radical view though.95% according to whom? The moon?
According to estimates of the JSR, the authoritative journal on the issue, ejaculations without actual orgasm comprise around 68% of an adult male's ejactulations (including those experienced during masturbation, JSR Proceedings 2005)† .
The scholarly criteria for the male orgasm are:
- extraordinary peaking in heart rate, blood pressure and respiration
- extraordinary oxytocin and prolactin levels
- euphoria
- corresponding neurological activity, or rather characteristic lack thereof
And these I adhere to. By no means a "radical" view. Just "radically" different from the nonsense popular fiction rams down your throat. Just the same way premature ejactulation isn't about premature orgasm but premature ejaculation (one would think the name would be telling enough), despite popular belief to the contrary. Et cetera.
† also, although qualitative rather than quantitative, on the stark difference between ejaculation and orgasm: Binik & Mah (2001) in: Clinical Psychology Review, 21, 6: 823-856
there are certain times where something feels really good, but its also too much stimulation. That's kinda a "Noo! stop! it feels good!" situation right?
which is pretty much what I thought this topic being about at first. HEH! viz. my previous post.
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Haburi-Chan wrote...
StaticChange wrote...
THE ECONOMY wrote...
Or an indicator of popular opinion not knowing the difference between male ejaculation and male orgasm. Ziiiiiiiing!
The times when I want her to stop and keep going at the same time are usually about something being so enjoyable that it feels like my heart'll stop. Especially in the beginning that used to unsettle me quite a bit! ;|
95% of the time the two are tied together. Unless you are going to argue that it isn't actually an orgasm unless you lose control. I think that's a pretty radical view though.
Ayanami00 wrote...
Well...can't I just believe it's love? *sniff* ;_; ha ha And being lusted after isn't that bad! kind of flattering so I don't mind either...even though a mixture of love and lust is preffered.
I can not say who enjoys sex more. I think it depends on who you are with. A lot of sex is honestly a mental thing so if you are into that person and what they are doing to you chances are it'll get you off. If not, you can still feel good but are less likely to climax... I dont know if that is true of all women but it is for me at least.
No... I suppose being lusted after isn't that bad =P. I only really meant that anyone who says they cant stop out of *love* is probably really talking about lust. Love is mutual, and if you can't or won't stop yourself from doing something that's not mutual anymore because now its just you. Lust on the other hand, is fundamentally an addiction, which fits the description much better. Of course if your significant other is just playing coy that's another story also.
But to be more on topic... there are certain times where something feels really good, but its also too much stimulation. That's kinda a "Noo! stop! it feels good!" situation right?
I don't regret it. =P I again agree with Ayanami: It's not bad being lusted over. =P That's actually really nice to hear. And let me in my fantasies and confuse lust and love~~
... and drown in them.... hehehe.....
tho mine wasnt being in the heat of doing the tralala....
during highschool i was giving the girls soccer club back massages since i was suspended for a fight in the halls..... and it happened that i was hitting the girl's sweet spots (or so they claimed it was).... every time i massaged my hands in those places, she moaned like someone was doing her on the bench where she lay prone.... heard things like "noo! not there! its... so good! dont! please!" and ,"it feels so good! stop! please! im gonna...." all while i was dealing with 16 girls to massage.... adviser scolded me and checked all of their lower areas to see if i did them all (later apologized in front of the principal) due to the girls lying all over the room and had drool sprawling from their mouths all while breathing heavily.....
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THE ECONOMY wrote...
95% according to whom? The moon?According to estimates of the JSR, the authoritative journal on the issue, ejaculations without actual orgasm comprise around 68% of an adult male's ejactulations (including those experienced during masturbation, JSR Proceedings 2005)† .
The scholarly criteria for the male orgasm are:
- extraordinary peaking in heart rate, blood pressure and respiration
- extraordinary oxytocin and prolactin levels
- euphoria
- corresponding neurological activity, or rather characteristic lack thereof
And these I adhere to. By no means a "radical" view. Just "radically" different from the nonsense popular fiction rams down your throat. Just the same way premature ejactulation isn't about premature orgasm but premature ejaculation (one would think the name would be telling enough), despite popular belief to the contrary. Et cetera.
† also, although qualitative rather than quantitative, on the stark difference between ejaculation and orgasm: Binik & Mah (2001) in: Clinical Psychology Review, 21, 6: 823-856
Spoiler:
TLDR: Lots of boring debate over technicalities on what constitutes an orgasm.
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StaticChange wrote...
Spoiler:
TLDR: Lots of boring debate over technicalities on what constitutes an orgasm.
PM'd you about the link.
And no, I'm not referring to chronic anhedonia, which is a very serious disorder. I am referring to the general lack of knowledge about male sexuality and/or the lack of admission about male sexual...disappointment? For lack of a better word.
I prefer neuro-/endocrinological studies over self-report-based surveys, not giving self-reports much credit when it comes to sex (or anywhere else, really). Of course every male is going to report how incredibly great his last lay was and how he came tons. It's the same as with self-report-based penis size surveys: hilarious, but nowhere near the truth.
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THE ECONOMY wrote...
PM'd you about the link.And no, I'm not referring to chronic anhedonia, which is a very serious disorder. I am referring to the general lack of knowledge about male sexuality and/or the lack of admission about male sexual...disappointment? For lack of a better word.
I prefer neuro-/endocrinological studies over self-report-based surveys, not giving self-reports much credit when it comes to sex (or anywhere else, really). Of course every male is going to report how incredibly great his last lay was and how he came tons. It's the same as with self-report-based penis size surveys: hilarious, but nowhere near the truth.
Well... if we aren't talking about ejaculatory anhedonia, which is ejaculation without orgasm, then you must be talking about something in the grey area inbetween. Note that chronic anhedonia and ejaculatory anhedonia aren't the same thing either. Chronic anhedonia is a much more serious disorder yes, as it applies to the inability to experience pleasure in general.
As you described it just now, you say you are referring to a lack of admission about male sexual disappointment, which is very close to the subject matter of my original post. If you are asserting that there is a misconception over how much guys typically enjoy orgasms, then I would be inclined to agree. If you are asserting that because guys enjoy those orgasms less, they aren't really orgasms, I disagree.
Also, a survey on sexual preferences/experiences isn't quite the same thing as a survey on sexual prowess. Unless they are embarrassed to say that they didn't orgasm, which they really shouldn't be unless they couldn't get it up, then I don't think it would influence the statistics very much.
But we're both speculating here, and the numbers are what they are. Even if we assume a very large percentage of the results are biased, I think you will have trouble justifying the magnitude of difference between your statistic and mine. The primary issue here is that you object to the context of my statistic, and I still haven't seen the context of yours.
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Yukinari wrote...
Humpa wrote...
Well, to answer the topic question I have been in a situation like that before. But I was the one doing it to them....specifically a neck rub. I would randomly walk up to someone and do it for a few seconds and stop and they go "That felt good. Keep doing it." Oddly enough, this has happened with more than one person >__>wait you would do this to friends right? when you say random people i think people you dont know
whoops, yeah its among friends.
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StaticChange wrote...
As you described it just now, you say you are referring to a lack of admission about male sexual disappointment, which is very close to the subject matter of my original post. If you are asserting that there is a misconception over how much guys typically enjoy orgasms, then I would be inclined to agree. If you are asserting that because guys enjoy those orgasms less, they aren't really orgasms, I disagree.
I am asserting that popular opinion mistakes ejaculation for orgasm, when in a broad number of cases there is a difference.
I am asserting that whatever meets not the criteria outlined before is not a climax.
I am asserting that male orgasm incidence is vastly over-reported due to both false expectations and popular misconception.
StaticChange wrote...
Unless they are embarrassed to say that they didn't orgasm, which they really shouldn't be People shouldn't be embarrassed about breast or penis size and yet they are.
As alluded to before, I give zero credit to self-report surveys, at all.
They're not even pseudo-science. They're Reader's Digest material.
StaticChange wrote...
But we're both speculating here,Yeahhhh...the münchhausen trilemma welcomes us.
StaticChange wrote...
Even if we assume a very large percentage of the results are biased, I think you will have trouble justifying the magnitude of difference between your statistic and mine...Methodology, plain and simple.
/thread derailment. I suggest that we can always continue this via PM if you so wish, lest we rend this thread asunder.