How do you know you did not die in your sleep?
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"Each night, when I go to sleep, I die. And the next morning, when I wake up, I am reborn." - Gandhi
Let me put this question more clearly. How do you know you are the same person when you wake up as the one when you fell asleep? Suppose the new you has all the same memories and personality and physical makeup as the old, but the old is no longer there. It is a new you, but an exact copy of the old. How do you know?
Let me put this question more clearly. How do you know you are the same person when you wake up as the one when you fell asleep? Suppose the new you has all the same memories and personality and physical makeup as the old, but the old is no longer there. It is a new you, but an exact copy of the old. How do you know?
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Nashrakh
Little White Butterflies Staff
blacktornado wrote...
It is a new you, but an exact copy of the old. How do you know?The real question is: why do you think it makes a difference when both are exactly the same, anyway?
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That's because they aren't the same. Your mind is very much active at night. In fact, you are subconciously working away at problems you had not solved before sleep, in order to prepare for tomorrow when you'll tackle said problem again. The different stages of sleep, from slow wave to REM, clearly shows activity, although unlike awakefulness, is still nonetheless functioning. This is why sleeping on problems can help.
Death, on the otherhand, is characterized by the total cessation of all metabolic activity of the cells. For humans, it is enough to be deemed dead if your brain stops functioning. MRI and PET scans will clearly show the lack of activity, but a normal EEG chart will usually suffice.
There's a clear cut difference. Your body is like a car without a functional ignition switch, but is already running. If you run out of fuel (lifetime), your gonna stop, and won't start again. If you stop halfway, you still won't be able to restart. The first time your body stops will also be the last time.
Death, on the otherhand, is characterized by the total cessation of all metabolic activity of the cells. For humans, it is enough to be deemed dead if your brain stops functioning. MRI and PET scans will clearly show the lack of activity, but a normal EEG chart will usually suffice.
There's a clear cut difference. Your body is like a car without a functional ignition switch, but is already running. If you run out of fuel (lifetime), your gonna stop, and won't start again. If you stop halfway, you still won't be able to restart. The first time your body stops will also be the last time.
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But its possible that the activity could be the removal of your body's memories and such, and in that short time you could instantly solve any problem in the universe (if you were awake), and then you are "copied" onto your body again and as you get copied, the activity rate goes down. To be honest, our level of science is pretty low. We don't even know about dreams, or what makes the human brain tick, and in all probability, we may never find out.
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Technically since we're constantly changing we're never the same person we just were. Going to sleep is irrelevant.
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NEXUS
Since 2010
That's a real trippy concept that I just can't grasp with my mind at this moment here in time.
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Aura-Desu
Beautiful and Twisted~
I would say you dont die. desu. I believe each day is a new day but not a new you. You can change what you act like or do but it is still the same you desu.
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blacktornado wrote...
How do you know?You don't. And there's absolutely no reason to think this actually happens.
Pixies sodomize you while you're asleep, you just don't know about it.
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Aura-Desu
Beautiful and Twisted~
Rbz wrote...
Pixies sodomize you while you're asleep, you just don't know about it.
D: They do every night. Desu. But i always wake up feeling unsatisfied. T_T Desu.
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Ex. teleportation is discovered and you want to teleport somewhere else on earth, so you do. But what if you didn't teleport and instead you where vaporized. Yet, before you where vaporized everything was converted into data that was sent to the other side of the world where you would be recreated by some form of tech.
Would you still be you?
Would it really matter?
Would you still be you?
Would it really matter?
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To be fair we could just as easily be dying every four seconds, then being instantaneously replaced with a completely identical version of ourselves with the same memories and such up to that point.
The answer is you don't know you didn't die in your sleep, but since there is absolutely no evidence to support that you died/replaced some identical to you in every way sleeping guy/whatever it should be assumed that you did not.
The answer is you don't know you didn't die in your sleep, but since there is absolutely no evidence to support that you died/replaced some identical to you in every way sleeping guy/whatever it should be assumed that you did not.
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I don;t think "copy" is the right word, or old/new for that matter. I have never heard of a school of thought that believes in "copying" a soul, and throwing away the original. Reincarnation, the soul never changes except the weight of karma, and is only placed in a new vessel.
Nothing is unchanging, so we are always a different person. This is just taking your words literally.
I also think you are taking Gandhi's words too literally. Maybe I just lack the faith to believe that he believes he died in his sleep and was reborn. I think it is simply poetry.
Nothing is unchanging, so we are always a different person. This is just taking your words literally.
I also think you are taking Gandhi's words too literally. Maybe I just lack the faith to believe that he believes he died in his sleep and was reborn. I think it is simply poetry.
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If we are sticking to the physical, you dont need to sleep to change, we do so every second.
If we are not, I do not think a mere sleep can change a person's way of thinking or personality and all of that. Maybe unless you had a horrific traumatizing nightmare, then maybe...
If we are not, I do not think a mere sleep can change a person's way of thinking or personality and all of that. Maybe unless you had a horrific traumatizing nightmare, then maybe...
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x-gen wrote...
That's because they aren't the same. Your mind is very much active at night. In fact, you are subconciously working away at problems you had not solved before sleep, in order to prepare for tomorrow when you'll tackle said problem again. The different stages of sleep, from slow wave to REM, clearly shows activity, although unlike awakefulness, is still nonetheless functioning. This is why sleeping on problems can help.Death, on the otherhand, is characterized by the total cessation of all metabolic activity of the cells. For humans, it is enough to be deemed dead if your brain stops functioning. MRI and PET scans will clearly show the lack of activity, but a normal EEG chart will usually suffice.
There's a clear cut difference. Your body is like a car without a functional ignition switch, but is already running. If you run out of fuel (lifetime), your gonna stop, and won't start again. If you stop halfway, you still won't be able to restart. The first time your body stops will also be the last time.
I died twice in the hospital two 5 years ago. So, no.
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A person changes little by little every day as we interact with the world. Also if you were replaced by an exact copy that had your memories then how would you know you'd been replaced, if that happened I think you'd be quisedead, the origional you would be gone but a part of you would still exist in the copy.