Hug Pillows (Dakimakuras) with Anime Characters Imprinted...

in that case im a walking contradiction pal.

Well for one a wall scroll goes on the wall, not beside you in bed. I'm sure you understand why many girls would consider that a little strange and quite possibly a turn off.

you are not an average girl zig, and I'm not trying to be insulting.

@Timeenforceranubis

Being upfront about your love for Anime is all well and good, but would you tell a girl on your first date with her that you have a lifesized pillow with a 2D character on it? You have to have some sense in what to reveal at a later date.

It doesn't matter what you really use the pillow for, the issue is perception. When someone who doesn't understand our group is first introduced to it they assume things like hug pillows and cardboard cutouts are used for sexual desires, perhaps as mastubatory aids, perhaps as simple representations of sexual desires. You don't want a girl to walk out or think you're a freak the first time, you only reveal the truly shocking things about yourself over time. I hate to tell you but the majority of people view us as weird people with a strange fettish, would you really avoid introducing a new person who may be interested in you simply because they dont accept everything about you the second you meet? That's naive and slightly unrealistic.



I'm able to see nudity and eat or do whatever, also. However, when I see someone with a hug pillow, I believe he's subconsciously or consciously using it as a substitute for a real girl. Now, this may not be true for all guys, but some do use it for that purpose.

@trekki859: You're saying you have a hug pillow and a girl still fucked you? Congrats? I wasn't saying that all girls would react that way, just the majority would find it a turn off.

;| I realize I'm not an average girl, but that doesn't mean you have to warn everyone if they ever get a pillow then they're doomed to be a virgin.

It's a pillow. I don't think it'd be any weirder to have a pillow than a wall scroll, than a figurine of a girl in a sexy pose on their bookshelf.

Personally, if I ever dated someone who wasn't into anime, I'd tell them about the scene way before I took them to my bedroom, so I don't think it'd be a huge issue either.

Why wouldn't you tell someone about your hobbies and sexual interests BEFORE going to the bedroom?

If they're not okay with it or into it - then that's the person who owns the stuff to decide whether or not the person is worth getting rid of the items for.

I honestly don't think I'd be able to date someone who wasn't into anime. That may sound really stupid, but so much of my interest goes into anime/video games/even porn now that if they couldn't accept that then I probably wouldn't be interested in them.

That might sound ridiculous, but leaving someone over a pillow sounds just as ridiculous to me.

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I mean, you have 2 girls disagreeing on whether or not a pillow is creepy. There's always going to be exceptions and not 100% Just as it's likely that a girl won't care, it's always better to make sure ahead of time before taking her to the bedroom.

I just think it's not fair to say if you own one you're doomed to be a virgin.

I also think it's not fair that just because you've seen a few people who have hug pillows be total creepers with them in various pictures doesn't mean everyone with them is like that. You see plenty of horrible antisocial otaku's who have their room covered in anime stuff and probably smell terrible.

But look at all the awesome people you meet in Fakku or have met at Otakon. There's always going to be the few out there who ruin it, but that doesn't mean you should base your opinion on the item as the source of the problem.

Zig, what you said about not being able to be with someone who doesn't like anime doesn't sound ridiculous. I know it's a huge part of your life, and if the person you're dating doesn't like anime at all, then you won't be able to do as much together.

You repeated a lot of your earlier points about the hug pillow being no different than a wall scroll, but I replied to them in my responses to you and Time.

Edit: I did meet a lot of awesome people at Otakon, and I won't stop being someone's friend just because they own a hug pillow. I'm talking about sexual relationships and how most girls view hug pillows as a turn off.

You're right; I shouldn't have doomed them to be virgins, but my statement still holds true that their chances of bringing home a girl during the first few dates and fucking her decreases by owning a hug pillow.

ima gonna have to agree with zigz there, but i would point out if the guy was dense enouge to not realise how much of a S.U.B. the girl was before takeing him into his room to be scared away by something as small as that then its his fault. you need to put more thought into who you want in your life.

This thread has taken a turn befitting of the term 'random'.

Again, I'm not sure why you're repeating yourself. I know you don't see the difference, but the average female will. As Steph said earlier you release more shocking things like sexual desires later in most relationships, so as to not freak the person you're with out right off the bat. I would have been slightly shocked had steph told me about her rape fantasies the second we met, It's just harder for me to act that way in bed so it took some getting used to before I was ready for something more extreme. Steph made another good point when she said that it's naive to think someone has to accept everyone about you the second they meet you, the real world doesn't work like that.

I'd also like to point out ziggy that as a woman you probably have less experience having to charm someone you like, the dating game is designed for women, we have to approach them, we have to ask them out first, we have to make all the moves first. I don't think we have the luxury to pick and choose what hobbies our partners may enjoy. I certainly don't (got lucky this time). Just a reminder, I'm talking about the average female, the vast majority, something you are not part of (not an insult).

i was just thinking that a few posts ago, its not quite incoherent thank god as were still talking about something related to the dakimakura

x3 sorry for repetition.


In the end I think it's just based on the type of girl the guy brings home, and I would hope if he's capable of catching a girl, he'd have enough sense to screen or even talk to her to figure out her reaction of the kind of things he has at home. I won't disagree that some girls would have a huge issue with it, as some girls don't even like their boyfriends watching porn as they feel like it's 'cheating' ;|

Girls can be anything but logical at times, and it's very situational on what kind of girl is coming home.

@Waar, and yeah. I'll agree there. I've never had to seek out a partner, so maybe that's why I see it so differently.

you see it differently because you're a woman who is part of this niche group, and you do stare at drawn tits every day when you edit manga. It's easy to understand why you would believe it to be acceptable.

If it's an issue of perception, then I simply won't date women who automatically think I'm trying to substitute a pillow for a real girl. Why would I want to continue dating a woman who would reject me based on the false assumption that I use a pillow to substitute for a real relationship? That's absurd. And, no, I wouldn't simply avoid new people because they don't accept everything I'm into right off the bat, however, at the point where myself and my hypothetical girlfriend intend to have sex in my room, I think it'd be quite reasonable for her to 1: Have seen my room and the contents therein before, and 2: Know I own a dakimakura and not have left me over something so stupid.

@Zig


Guys can be capable of catching a girl and not have enough sense to "screen her". Also, I had a friend who's girlfriend pulled that same cheating porn thing. So ridiculous.

that i have to agree with there. im sorry if this sounds sexist but any girl who thinks watching porn is "cheating" has some SERIOUS insecurity issues

I think a better question (overall) would be, what otaku would try to zoom in on a non-kindred spirit? I've never seen a one-sided anime fan relationship, ever.

you simply aren't being realistic. Your standards are too high if you think you "simply wont date" them and it will be harder for you to find someone. Years of chasing after girls has taught me to make the situation I'm in work if it's something I really want. I don't think anyone ever advised you to never show her all your hobbies (LQ might have but i think it was more in jest at first) and personal effects, it just takes time for average people to accept something new. I did get lucky with steph though, we share 80% of the same hobbies.

@kgods, I have dated many girls who didnt like anime, while I was a very big fan of it.

Key words being "HAVE", note that you are not still together.

I see what you're saying, and while I agree that it'd be harder to find someone, I'd assert that it's unreasonable to outright reject someone whom you've been dating long enough to consider, intend, and move to execute intimate sexual maneuvers with in that person's bedroom, simply because of a misconception about a piece of character merchandise they own.

Question: Are you and LostQuartet a "item?"

Sorry if thats too personal, I just get the feeling that you two are close.