i7 counterfeit or demo Tech scandal
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03/05/2010 - 7:52PM CST:
DBA Public Relations has contacted us with the following statement.
"Newegg is aware of a shipping error that occurred with certain recent orders of the Intel Core i7-920 CPU. After investigating the issue internally it appears one of our long term partners mistakenly shipped a small number of demo boxes instead of functional units. Our customer service team has already begun proactively reaching out to the affected customers. In line with our commitment to ensure total customer satisfaction, we are doing everything in our power to resolve the issue as soon as possible and with the least amount of inconvenience to our customers."
Courthouse News Service
Video of user showing the CPU(or piece of metal)and the fake fan
03/05/2010 - 7:52PM CST:
DBA Public Relations has contacted us with the following statement.
"Newegg is aware of a shipping error that occurred with certain recent orders of the Intel Core i7-920 CPU. After investigating the issue internally it appears one of our long term partners mistakenly shipped a small number of demo boxes instead of functional units. Our customer service team has already begun proactively reaching out to the affected customers. In line with our commitment to ensure total customer satisfaction, we are doing everything in our power to resolve the issue as soon as possible and with the least amount of inconvenience to our customers."
Courthouse News Service
Video of user showing the CPU(or piece of metal)and the fake fan
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Seen this on another forum, but understand that you'll have to take Newegg's statement with a grain of salt. Intel just gave their assessment of the situation:
http://hardocp.com/news/2010/03/07/intel_comment_on_fake_cpu_debacle_raises_more_questions
My guess is that a group from inside Newegg, probably in shipping or stocking, had intentionally swapped out actual i7 boxes with the fakes. In total, they got away with over 300 i7's, and as far as Newegg's response goes, it looks like Newegg isn't holding an official investigation.
Really, this only hurts a few select individuals who had purchased i7's in the past few
months. What we should hope for more is whether the perpetrators are getting away with it, and not if the customers will be satisfied. It's probably not Newegg's fault anyway, don't blame the company for the actions of a few thieving workers.
Source:
http://www.overclock.net/hardware-news/683155-hardocp-hwc-newegg-ships-counterfeit-intel-18.html
Intel (Dan Snyder) wrote...
Intel has been made aware of the potential for counterfeit i7 920 packages in the marketplace and is working to how many and/or where they are being sold. The examples we have seen are not Intel products but are counterfeits. Buyers should contact their place of purchase for a replacement and/or should contact their local law enforcement agency if the place of purchase refuses to help.http://hardocp.com/news/2010/03/07/intel_comment_on_fake_cpu_debacle_raises_more_questions
My guess is that a group from inside Newegg, probably in shipping or stocking, had intentionally swapped out actual i7 boxes with the fakes. In total, they got away with over 300 i7's, and as far as Newegg's response goes, it looks like Newegg isn't holding an official investigation.
Really, this only hurts a few select individuals who had purchased i7's in the past few
months. What we should hope for more is whether the perpetrators are getting away with it, and not if the customers will be satisfied. It's probably not Newegg's fault anyway, don't blame the company for the actions of a few thieving workers.
Source:
http://www.overclock.net/hardware-news/683155-hardocp-hwc-newegg-ships-counterfeit-intel-18.html
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Many of the people of the people read the box the CPU came in saying it had multiple spelling errors so I'm thinking someone made counterfeit ones and swapped them with the real ones.So it might not be New Egg's fault.
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Nachbar wrote...
What I don't understand is why people are buying 920's when 930 just came out.i7 930 = 2.8 Ghz and $295
i7 920 = 2.66 Ghz and $289
i7 930's are one more multiplier faster than the 920 for only $6 more so there is no reason at all not to get it over a 920.
For those of us that have a MicroCenter near by or can get Fry's to PM, MicroCenter has i7 920s for $200 all day long. :)
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The CPU's are indeed counterfeit.New Egg has posted a letter explaining what happened and will be replacing all the consumers who received the piece of metal and clay mold on their Facebook page.
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Nachbar wrote...
What I don't understand is why people are buying 920's when 930 just came out.i7 930 = 2.8 Ghz and $295
i7 920 = 2.66 Ghz and $289
i7 930's are one more multiplier faster than the 920 for only $6 more so there is no reason at all not to get it over a 920.
Or just save the $6 and overclock the 920.
Edit: From what I've heard the 920 overclocks like a beast.
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They are exactly the same except the multiplier on the 930 is 1 higher than the 920.
When you overclock, you raise the mhz value on the bus so if you have a better multiplier then you will have a much higher overclock.
Here are the stock speeds:
920= 133Mhz x 20 = 2.66Ghz
930= 133Mhz x 21 = 2.80Ghz
And an easily achievable overclock: *it'll run hot as hell with the stock fan though*
920= 191Mhz x 20 = 3.8 Ghz
930= 191Mhz x 21 = 4.0 Ghz
$6 for 200Mhz seems like a damn good deal to me.
If your not convinced yet, here's its value in Mhz/$:
920= 2660/289 = 9.20 Mhz/$
930= 2800/295 = 9.49 Mhz/$
And overclocked is better as well:
920= 3800/289 = 13.15 Mhz/$
930= 4000/295 = 13.56 Mhz/$
I.e. the i7 930 is a 5% increase in performance with a 2% increase in price over the 920. Stupid to buy a 920 now unless its dirt cheap somewhere.
Remember they both are quad-cores and have hyperthreading so you could even take those values times 8 which will make the 930 have an even better value for applications that can utilize all of those cores/threads.
When you overclock, you raise the mhz value on the bus so if you have a better multiplier then you will have a much higher overclock.
Here are the stock speeds:
920= 133Mhz x 20 = 2.66Ghz
930= 133Mhz x 21 = 2.80Ghz
And an easily achievable overclock: *it'll run hot as hell with the stock fan though*
920= 191Mhz x 20 = 3.8 Ghz
930= 191Mhz x 21 = 4.0 Ghz
$6 for 200Mhz seems like a damn good deal to me.
If your not convinced yet, here's its value in Mhz/$:
920= 2660/289 = 9.20 Mhz/$
930= 2800/295 = 9.49 Mhz/$
And overclocked is better as well:
920= 3800/289 = 13.15 Mhz/$
930= 4000/295 = 13.56 Mhz/$
I.e. the i7 930 is a 5% increase in performance with a 2% increase in price over the 920. Stupid to buy a 920 now unless its dirt cheap somewhere.
Remember they both are quad-cores and have hyperthreading so you could even take those values times 8 which will make the 930 have an even better value for applications that can utilize all of those cores/threads.
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Nachbar wrote...
They are exactly the same except the multiplier on the 930 is 1 higher than the 920.When you overclock, you raise the mhz value on the bus so if you have a better multiplier then you will have a much higher overclock.
Here are the stock speeds:
920= 133Mhz x 20 = 2.66Ghz
930= 133Mhz x 21 = 2.80Ghz
And an easily achievable overclock: *it'll run hot as hell with the stock fan though*
920= 191Mhz x 20 = 3.8 Ghz
930= 191Mhz x 21 = 4.0 Ghz
$6 for 200Mhz seems like a damn good deal to me.
If your not convinced yet, here's its value in Mhz/$:
920= 2660/289 = 9.20 Mhz/$
930= 2800/295 = 9.49 Mhz/$
And overclocked is better as well:
920= 3800/289 = 13.15 Mhz/$
930= 4000/295 = 13.56 Mhz/$
I.e. the i7 930 is a 5% increase in performance with a 2% increase in price over the 920. Stupid to buy a 920 now unless its dirt cheap somewhere.
Remember they both are quad-cores and have hyperthreading so you could even take those values times 8 which will make the 930 have an even better value for applications that can utilize all of those cores/threads.
I wouldn't say that the 920 can clock to a max of 3.8. Remember that there are two revisions of the i7 920, the C0 and the D0 revision. The D0 recieve a significant increase in overclocking because they receive less heat from high voltages.
With that said, D0 920's easily overclock to 4.0GHz with appropriate air cooling and voltage. My brother does it, gets about ~60 load in LinX with the sythe mugen II. If 4.0GHz is all the i7 930 can do, I am not impressed, but I think it can be overclocked a little more past 4.0GHz, past that of the i7 D0. However, there is no doubt that you should go for this newer chip, just because it is new and it is binned better (binned to 2.8GHz), with just a slight increase in price.
Oh BTW, they still have $200 i7 920's at Microcenter :)
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I just said easily achievable. I'm sure you can go much higher. I just put an example up there of them using the same bus frequency and how the 930 is better because of the multiplier. Also because the 930 is brand new as of this month I'm pretty sure it uses the same thing the 920 does to get less heat. A 200 bus speed is probably what your brother overclocked his at because you can have a 1:1 ratio with some RAM that way which would make the 920 OC at 4.0Ghz and the 930 would be at 4.2Ghz. Unless you have really good RAM and a motherboard that supports that RAM you can't go past that without using dividers in your memory controller which reduces its performance.