ISPs Agree To Become Copyright Cops For RIAA And Co.
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MaximumPC wrote...
Industry trade groups like the RIAA and the MPAA have been beating on Congressional doors for years now in a fruitless attempt to restrict Internet access for rampant file-sharers. Thanks to a tangled web of possible political and legal ramifications, the government's been hesitant to drop the banhammer on everyday pirates. Sick of the foot-dragging, the content associations just went Dirty Harry. No, they didn't take the law into their own hands – they bypassed it completely by forging a deal with the largest ISPs, who will now take a "graduated response" against file-sharers at the copyright owners' command. Full Article
Personal Thoughts: Highly confused and scared. Also a bit disinterested.
Actually I think question that needs to be asked is, how serious of an issue is this on a scale of -(100)-10?
Also sorry if I don't sound all too educated in this matter. I'm admittedly not.
EDIT: I have done research for another article on the subject and I found one from Ars Technica
Ars Technica wrote...
American Internet users, get ready for three strikes "six strikes." Major US Internet providers—including AT&T, Verizon, Comcast, Cablevision, and Time Warner Cable—have just signed on to a voluntary agreement with the movie and music businesses to crack down on online copyright infringers. But they will protect subscriber privacy and they won't filter or monitor their own networks for infringement. And after the sixth "strike," you won't necessarily be "out."Much of the scheme mirrors what ISPs do now. Copyright holders will scan the 'Net for infringement, grabbing suspect IP addresses from peer-to-peer file-sharing networks. If they see your IP address participating in a swarm for, say, Transformers, they will look up that IP address to see which ISP controls it, then fire off a message
Ars Technica
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Pfft, nice trick.
Comcast already tried to take "justice" into their own hands and got slapped down my a handful of lawsuits over the years. Not sure why that would suddenly change just because a few more IPS's are onboard with the idea. They'll have a lawsuit on their hands as soon as they try anything.
Comcast already tried to take "justice" into their own hands and got slapped down my a handful of lawsuits over the years. Not sure why that would suddenly change just because a few more IPS's are onboard with the idea. They'll have a lawsuit on their hands as soon as they try anything.
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I love how the EFF has been trying to tell people this for years. And no one cares until it's too late. D;
https://www.eff.org/
https://www.eff.org/
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gizgal wrote...
I love how the EFF has been trying to tell people this for years. And no one cares until it's too late. D;https://www.eff.org/
I'm sorry to ask but, who are they exactly? Haven't heard about them until just now.
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Akasen wrote...
gizgal wrote...
I love how the EFF has been trying to tell people this for years. And no one cares until it's too late. D;https://www.eff.org/
I'm sorry to ask but, who are they exactly? Haven't heard about them until just now.
A leading research and interest organization on digital rights, issues and causes.
They've gotten press in recent years for their beliefs and spearheading campaigns to ensure 'net neutrality'.
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So from the general response, this isn't a big issue because most of FAKKU does not use a major provider or because it's not an issue period. is this correct?
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
Akasen wrote...
So from the general response, this isn't a big issue because most of FAKKU does not use a major provider or because it's not an issue period. is this correct?Actually it *is* a big issue, since this is a big step against net neutrality and even the lesser providers may be influenced through the chilling effect of this turn.
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Really no matter how much they try to crack down it will never stop. People will always find a way to get around laws and other security measures. So in the end I'm not worried about this at all.
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Flaser wrote...
Akasen wrote...
So from the general response, this isn't a big issue because most of FAKKU does not use a major provider or because it's not an issue period. is this correct?Actually it *is* a big issue, since this is a big step against net neutrality and even the lesser providers may be influenced through the chilling effect of this turn.
Yep. Hope to heaven this crap doesn't pass.
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I think you two are overestimating the potential ramifications of this.
At best, it might make the government change their stance regarding the political and legal ramifications of changing or overturning Net Neutrality, but I fail to see how this is going to be any different than what Comcast/Xfinity tried by themselves.
Comcast tried to interfere with P2P networking on several occasions and were sued, and lost, on each account for unlawfully interfering in P2P transactions over the internet. There is no reason to believe that just because the number of ISPs willing to try this bold move has increased, will change the outcome when they will inevitably be sued.
At best, it might make the government change their stance regarding the political and legal ramifications of changing or overturning Net Neutrality, but I fail to see how this is going to be any different than what Comcast/Xfinity tried by themselves.
Comcast tried to interfere with P2P networking on several occasions and were sued, and lost, on each account for unlawfully interfering in P2P transactions over the internet. There is no reason to believe that just because the number of ISPs willing to try this bold move has increased, will change the outcome when they will inevitably be sued.
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I believe Tsuyaru is correct.
Until the ISPs actually start handing street addresses of ip adresses/timeframe to RIAA, no one gets sued other than the ISP. Therefore, it would be in their interest to not execute those measures. So nothing to worry about yet.
from the same ars technica article
Until the ISPs actually start handing street addresses of ip adresses/timeframe to RIAA, no one gets sued other than the ISP. Therefore, it would be in their interest to not execute those measures. So nothing to worry about yet.
from the same ars technica article
ISPs have committed to forward such notices to subscribers—though, crucially, they won't turn over actual subscriber names or addresses without a court order. This is a one-way notification process.
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
sciwhiz wrote...
I believe Tsuyaru is correct.Until the ISPs actually start handing street addresses of ip adresses/timeframe to RIAA, no one gets sued other than the ISP. Therefore, it would be in their interest to not execute those measures. So nothing to worry about yet.
from the same ars technica article
ISPs have committed to forward such notices to subscribers—though, crucially, they won't turn over actual subscriber names or addresses without a court order. This is a one-way notification process.
Re-read the article. It's *not* just forwarding notices, but a "graduated response". What does that translate to? They will altogether *cut* your Internet service if you're caught continuing to do things they deem "suspicious".
Maximum PC wrote...
The new agreement isn't a three-strikes-and-you're-out arrangement, as was previously rumored. Instead, Verizon, Comcast, AT&T, Cablevision and Time Warner Cable will send users an alert "in response to a notice from a copyright holder" like the RIAA. If someone continues to download or upload copyrighted content, a "graduated response" takes effect: ISPs will redirect users to a splash page containing the warning or start sending pop-ups insinuating that their customers are dirty criminals. After five "alerts," the ISPs turn to "Mitigation measures," which are oh-so-nebulous "measures that the ISP may deem necessary to help resolve the matter."
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Sindalf
Used to do stuff
"If you think you were incorrectly accused of infringement, you can pay $35 to get an "independent review," "
Enjoy your extortion by your ISP. May I remind you that extortion is illegal.
Enjoy your extortion by your ISP. May I remind you that extortion is illegal.
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Standardcorpse wrote...
Really no matter how much they try to crack down it will never stop. People will always find a way to get around laws and other security measures. So in the end I'm not worried about this at all.True, this does seem to happen often enough. We find a way around their measures, then they find a way to block us again. Seems to be an endless cycle.