Love Is an Illusion?
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Well, I just had this topic pop into my head for no apperent reason, and wanted to see what you all think.
This idea originated from one of my teachers back in High School, and the teacher always said that love is an illusion, that it is always a selfish act one that commits. Whenever one sais "I Love You," it is always I before You, meaning that it is about Your feelings to that person, what you see yourself in what you reflest off of that person.
I have to admit that I agree with some of this, but I have different ideas for some of the topic.
Again, your thoughts.
This idea originated from one of my teachers back in High School, and the teacher always said that love is an illusion, that it is always a selfish act one that commits. Whenever one sais "I Love You," it is always I before You, meaning that it is about Your feelings to that person, what you see yourself in what you reflest off of that person.
I have to admit that I agree with some of this, but I have different ideas for some of the topic.
Again, your thoughts.
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cruz737 wrote...
You may view "love" as a selfish reaction, but it is indeed very real.Thats another thing that I wanna find out. What is love? is it just a feeling, or just another man made thing?
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Love is quite real, actually even science approves of it, there are certain chemical reactions happening when you are in love within your body, especially inside your brain... it is an emotion like any other. There are some scientific quarrels about how long it can last though but in my opinion it can last as long as possible if both partners are up to it, there are some good examples of the so called "perfect love", although is rare... On the other hand, yes you say I love you, but thats basically all you can say since you cant express the feelings of another person, plus if the person loves you back he/she will say the same, love is selfish and we are always on the first place to ourselfs, get used to it.
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how can a person express their feelings about something or someone and it not be selfish? lol your teacher sounds kind of bitter.
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Drifter995
Neko//Night
I'd say, your teacher has his points, but it's mostly about conveying your feelings towards another person. EG you say 'i love you' to your partner, then they say it back, therefore you know you both love each other. and i'm assuming, since you're going out, you'd actually know what each other is like, so it would be more than lust. (unless your 16) So, loving somebody for their personality isn't quite an illusion..
Else, if he/she means stating 'i love you' is selfish.. try saying it the other way out of context 'you love me' how arrogant. That my friend is selfish/ arrogant. Stating i love you is not. If used in a manor of trying to get back with an ex or something that is in a relationship, that is a selfish act. and trying to steal them.
But if used normally, i hardly think it's selfish...
Also, to serious discussion or to love and romance? that is the question. (meaning, i wonder if this suits serious discussion more than love and romance)
Else, if he/she means stating 'i love you' is selfish.. try saying it the other way out of context 'you love me' how arrogant. That my friend is selfish/ arrogant. Stating i love you is not. If used in a manor of trying to get back with an ex or something that is in a relationship, that is a selfish act. and trying to steal them.
But if used normally, i hardly think it's selfish...
Also, to serious discussion or to love and romance? that is the question. (meaning, i wonder if this suits serious discussion more than love and romance)
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I think your teacher's analogy that "the I comes before you" is downright stupid; what are you supposed to say, "you are loved by me"? And no, love is not an illusion, it's just that true love is very rare
however, I agree that most love is selfish. Most People love someone because they ultimately want to benefit themselves, not the person they love. If you disagree, ask yourself this:
If loving him/her no longer benefits me, do I continue loving him/her?
I think that true love is when you ultimately want to benefit the person you love more than yourself. If you answered yes to ^this question, then you have true love. Unfortunately, a perfect relationship requires that both people have true love, making a perfect relationship nearly impossible
however, I agree that most love is selfish. Most People love someone because they ultimately want to benefit themselves, not the person they love. If you disagree, ask yourself this:
If loving him/her no longer benefits me, do I continue loving him/her?
I think that true love is when you ultimately want to benefit the person you love more than yourself. If you answered yes to ^this question, then you have true love. Unfortunately, a perfect relationship requires that both people have true love, making a perfect relationship nearly impossible
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Firstbornnyc wrote...
how can a person express their feelings about something or someone and it not be selfish? lol your teacher sounds kind of bitter.The funny thing, he's not bitter, but happy and cheerful. It's weird.
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cruz737 wrote...
You may view "love" as a selfish reaction, but it is indeed very real.This. You love someone not because you love LOVE him/her, you love him/her because you love the feeling of loving him/her.
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It is possible to love without it being selfish. Like if your lover does not want to be with you anymore, instead of being selfish and forcefully trying to get her to like you again, you can let her go because you know it is what she wants and it will make them more happy.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Since people love my emotionless reactions and ideas on love earlier...
https://www.fakku.net/viewtopic.php?t=51755#1564498
Love is a chemical imbalance that can be induce by chocolate and dopamine. It doesn't change the feelings but i realize that love is a myth and we grasp at straws just to feel it. I feel content with my wife and a analytical meaning with her and my children but alast im just a logical man with no way to feel those intense emotions. It the way i can deal with my bi polar emotions is by analyze them, Only hold true to me and no one else.
warning science at work
https://www.fakku.net/viewtopic.php?t=51755#1564498
Love is a chemical imbalance that can be induce by chocolate and dopamine. It doesn't change the feelings but i realize that love is a myth and we grasp at straws just to feel it. I feel content with my wife and a analytical meaning with her and my children but alast im just a logical man with no way to feel those intense emotions. It the way i can deal with my bi polar emotions is by analyze them, Only hold true to me and no one else.
warning science at work
Spoiler:
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Takerial
Lovable Teddy Bear
Love is indeed selfish. It is one of the most selfish emotions you can have in fact. Because love is a very primal emotion.
If you haven't realized, people start out as selfish when we are born. It's one of the first emotions we know as infants because that is how we survive. It's about needing others to survive.
That is what love reflects. The selfish want of someone you need to survive.
And it is a glorious feeling when you have it.
If you haven't realized, people start out as selfish when we are born. It's one of the first emotions we know as infants because that is how we survive. It's about needing others to survive.
That is what love reflects. The selfish want of someone you need to survive.
And it is a glorious feeling when you have it.
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Takerial wrote...
Love is indeed selfish. It is one of the most selfish emotions you can have in fact. Because love is a very primal emotion.If you haven't realized, people start out as selfish when we are born. It's one of the first emotions we know as infants because that is how we survive. It's about needing others to survive.
That is what love reflects. The selfish want of someone you need to survive.
And it is a glorious feeling when you have it.
A reason why a lot of people may not look at love as being selfish is because we all have been brought up that the word 'selfish' is bad, and anything selfish is bad. In truth, selfishness is actually a good, human thing, but it has the limits to going bad, like anything else. If your selfishness either insults or harms any other being, then that is when we should associate it with a negative manner.
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As other people have mentioned, there is a physiological process which is described as love, but the concept of love itself is a rationalization for that process. And it's probably almost entirely selfish. The only 'love' which should overpower self-preservation in a healthy, sane, person, is love for your children.