Make a AMD Bulldozer PC

Hi guy, I want built a AMD Bulldozer PC but under budget so is this a good component to built it? Help please?

Processor - AMD3+ (FX 4130)
CPU Heat sink - Cooler Master (v6GT)
Memory RAM - Cosair (D3 VS1600/8GB)
Mainboard - MSI (970A-G46)
Graphic card - Sapphire (HD7750)
POwer supply - Cooler Master (GX Series 650W)
Chassis - Thermaltake (V3 Black Edition)

At the moment, going AMD is the worst decision you could make... and no, the AM3+ socket probably won't allow you to upgrade to a better CPU later on. Bulldozer was supposed to be it, and (for gaming needs) it didn't deliver:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html

What youre gonna use it?

If for gaming, then you can play with it. But on the highest settings?

Im not sure about that.

I planned building an AMD PC as well.

Here is the TOPIC.

In the end. I got Intel I5 3570K (THANK YOU FLASER) and i dont look back on the purchase with regret.

I had to change my purchace list though, remove 8 GB of ram, get a cheaper case and use old PSU from my old PC to get Intel I5 with good Graphics card.

But definetly worth ever cent spent and sacrifice made.

It will run games, only not on the highest.

Id reccomend collecting cash.

Also, summer is up.

If youre attending school, try getting a summer job.

It may not pay enough, but those who dont collect cents, wont get a dollar.

there been talks about AMD loosing money, potentially go bankrupt. Like Flaser said, think carefully about them first.

Kinda sad to hear considering if they out of the picture, Intel and nvidia basically dominate the CPU and GPU market. Which I'm sure no consumer want that... D:

Thanks you for information kinsake

Flaser is overstating the performance and not factoring in the best performance for the price within your budget. If you go for an i3 you will only have two cores, which while being slightly faster than and are still outdated for games which are becoming increasingly multi threaded. For the price of an i3, you can get an and bulldozer vishera, and fx-6300 which is a much better value. It over clocks well, has great performance and is a six core processor. For the same price it will game better than the i3. A lot of games still aren't CPU bound anyway, and pairing an expensive processor such as an i5 with an inexpensive GPU such as a 7750 is a waste of money. You will not be bottlenecked b CPU performance at this level. The six core is more valuable in a working environment as well. It will render faster than an i3 and multitask better. You can always overclock to improve single thread performance, but there is nothing you can do to increase multi threading capability to match more cores. The upgrade path isn't bad either, you can get a eight core which trails slightly behind an i7, yet for a cheaper price.

Mind you this is coming from a guy with an i5-3470. I'd trade it for a vishera eight core in an instant for better multithread capability but sadly they do not make mini-itx am3+ motherboards for my case.

Also, one thing other thing I would seriously recommend changing is the PSU. The power supply is the most important part in your computer, if it fails it can take your expensive components down and fry everything. A good power supply will let your components last longer as well. Cooler master is known for not making electrically stable power supplies and I've built enough computers to know which power supplies are dodgey and the mediocre brands tend to have a high rate of failing, especially at the power level they say they deliver. Try getting a seasonic 500w or 450w. They have rock solid voltage regulation, great warranty, and great efficiency. 500w is enough to power any CPU and GPU.

I didn't say AMD wasn't better bang for your buck - at the low end of the budget, they still very much are - , what I stress is that the AM3+ platform is not a good investement, as later on you won't be able to cheaply upgrade it.

Right now, the i-series CPUs trash AMD across the board, and AMD is only a good investment on the very low end of the budget (sub ~$100). I'd prefer if this weren't so, as competition is what drives prices down and Intel's dominance is not good for the consumer in the long run.

You bring up two things:
1. Games are not so CPU dependent - true. Right now having a good GPU is more important for games than a CPU... if the later's a decent, then you're good to go. (Except in some hideously unoptimized games, like MW0)
2. AMD's Bulldozer is better for multitasking and non-game related tasks - true. It's a 6-core setup, and this is why it has a substantial user-base for server side use.

Which of our strategies is valid is not a given though: I recommend Intel, as it'll be cheaper to upgrade later on Socket 1155 MOBOs will have a wide range of strong CPUs available at a decent price.

From what I hear - please tell me if I'm wrong, as I may *not* be up to date on AMD's plans - the AM3+ socket boards won't have this advantage, as the Bulldozer is pretty much as good as you can get for this socket.

Your point about GPU being important is valid, and so is your point about investing in it over the CPU. What's not a given is which strategy is preferable to smaurai1 in the long run:
-Buy a cheaper Socket AM3+ MOBO + Bulldozer now, use the remaining money for a better GPU. Pay more for a new MOBO later on when a stronger CPU becomes necessary.
-Invest more now in a Socket 1155 MOBO + Intel Core i3, spend less on a GPU; upgrade both GPU and CPU as money permits or as games demand.

I admit I may be biased, and frankly a new MOBO is not that expensive... though what tends to make it so, is when one finally musters the money and effort you usually buy the newest tech, which might mean new RAM, sometimes GPU and even peripherals as the standards might've moved on. (Though thankfully that one might be another generation or two away for now, unlike the AGP/PCI-E & PATA/SATA debacle we just went through).

Part of why I recommend the Intel path is that changing a CPU or GPU is usually a lot more hassle free than changing your MOBO, which often necessitates an OS reinstall. For users who're not that familiar with all things IT, you usually recommend the easier path as long as it's not grossly more expensive.