need SSD recommendation...
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I'm looking around to buy 2 SSD to raid 0 them and i wanted around 60g on each...
I just want one that reliable, doesn't crash on me and it probably last long time. I don't care much about price or speed.[size=8] (considering it an SSD i'm just glad it faster then hdd) [/h]
This what I thinking into buying, but idk if there any other that is a better value. anyone have suggestion?
I just want one that reliable, doesn't crash on me and it probably last long time. I don't care much about price or speed.[size=8] (considering it an SSD i'm just glad it faster then hdd) [/h]
This what I thinking into buying, but idk if there any other that is a better value. anyone have suggestion?
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
The general consensus among power users is that RAID 0 on SSDs is not worth the hassle and money.
If you want higher transfer speeds (although for SSDs what you really should look at is IOPS), buy an SSD with PCI-E x 4 interface instead SATA 3, or just buy a bigger drive. The later are faster, because they have more NAND chips in the drive, allowing a greater bandwidth.
If you want higher transfer speeds (although for SSDs what you really should look at is IOPS), buy an SSD with PCI-E x 4 interface instead SATA 3, or just buy a bigger drive. The later are faster, because they have more NAND chips in the drive, allowing a greater bandwidth.
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I would try out the PCI-e one if there were more in the market. Plus from all the review I see, most of them are bad and the one are good is way to expensive for me.
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
RAID 0 is usually still not worth it, the speed boost is negligible in practical terms...
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1999739
...and also brings tons of complications, this setups (depending on your MOBO) can be quite iffy.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-recommendation-benchmark,3269-6.html
Bottomline: just buy a 120 GB SSD. The performance difference between 1 SSD vs 2 RAID 0 SSDs is nowhere near as big - and especially doesn't *feel* big - as the difference between HDD and SSD.
Once again: for general use, the important thing is IOPS, not sequential transfer-speed.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/storage/display/kigston-hyperx-ssd-raid0_7.html#sect0
RAID0 is a traditional method of boosting your disk subsystem performance. The trick works with SSDs, too. Combining two SSDs into a RAID0 helps increase linear read/write speeds as well as the speed of processing small data blocks at a long request queue. We did notch very impressive sequential read and write speeds in our tests, getting much higher than the SATA 6 Gbit/s bandwidth.
However, we should keep it in mind that modern SSDs have a tendency to get faster as their capacity grows even within the same product series, so a two-disk RAID0 may turn out to be slower than a single large-capacity SSD. More importantly, SATA RAID controllers, including those in modern chipsets, do not support the TRIM command. As a result, the array’s writing performance degrades over time whereas single SSDs are less susceptible to this problem.
Thus, a RAID0 will only be superior to a single SSD at linear operations whereas random-address operations will expose its weakness. That’s why we can’t prefer the RAID0 solution to a single SSD without reservations. On the other hand, most of our lifelike benchmarks do show the RAID0 to be overall faster. In other words, the RAID0 is better on average, especially as it doesn’t involve any investment: the cost per gigabyte is the same for a RAID0 and an SSD of the same capacity.
There is some inconvenience about running an SSD RAID0 that should also be mentioned. You cannot monitor the health of your SSDs in a RAID0 or update their firmware. A RAID0 will also have lower reliability since a failure of any SSD causes the loss of all data stored on all the SSDs in the array.
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1999739
...and also brings tons of complications, this setups (depending on your MOBO) can be quite iffy.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-recommendation-benchmark,3269-6.html
Bottomline: just buy a 120 GB SSD. The performance difference between 1 SSD vs 2 RAID 0 SSDs is nowhere near as big - and especially doesn't *feel* big - as the difference between HDD and SSD.
Once again: for general use, the important thing is IOPS, not sequential transfer-speed.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/storage/display/kigston-hyperx-ssd-raid0_7.html#sect0
XTI Labs wrote...
Unfortunately, our today’s tests do not provide a clear answer to the question if building a RAID0 out of modern SSDs makes sense. This solution has its highs and lows and we can only do as much as lost them all and let you be the decision maker.RAID0 is a traditional method of boosting your disk subsystem performance. The trick works with SSDs, too. Combining two SSDs into a RAID0 helps increase linear read/write speeds as well as the speed of processing small data blocks at a long request queue. We did notch very impressive sequential read and write speeds in our tests, getting much higher than the SATA 6 Gbit/s bandwidth.
However, we should keep it in mind that modern SSDs have a tendency to get faster as their capacity grows even within the same product series, so a two-disk RAID0 may turn out to be slower than a single large-capacity SSD. More importantly, SATA RAID controllers, including those in modern chipsets, do not support the TRIM command. As a result, the array’s writing performance degrades over time whereas single SSDs are less susceptible to this problem.
Thus, a RAID0 will only be superior to a single SSD at linear operations whereas random-address operations will expose its weakness. That’s why we can’t prefer the RAID0 solution to a single SSD without reservations. On the other hand, most of our lifelike benchmarks do show the RAID0 to be overall faster. In other words, the RAID0 is better on average, especially as it doesn’t involve any investment: the cost per gigabyte is the same for a RAID0 and an SSD of the same capacity.
There is some inconvenience about running an SSD RAID0 that should also be mentioned. You cannot monitor the health of your SSDs in a RAID0 or update their firmware. A RAID0 will also have lower reliability since a failure of any SSD causes the loss of all data stored on all the SSDs in the array.
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hmm... thank you,
I thought raid 0 ssd is good considering a raid 0 HDD is. And I thought the only downside would be risk of corruption of data if one were to fail. Thank for proving me wrong. Rep+
Then do you have any suggestion for a 120gb or even 250gb SSD?
what I'm looking at mostly the reliability out of anything else.
I thought raid 0 ssd is good considering a raid 0 HDD is. And I thought the only downside would be risk of corruption of data if one were to fail. Thank for proving me wrong. Rep+
Then do you have any suggestion for a 120gb or even 250gb SSD?
what I'm looking at mostly the reliability out of anything else.
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From what I've heard, Samsung 840 Pro SSDs are the best on the market right now. Their performance and reliability are top-notch.
Intel 520 SSDs are the absolute best in terms of reliability, but they're not quite as fast as the Samsung drives (very close, though) and they're a tad pricey.
As for SSD size, 128GB should be enough for Windows and your programs. I'd recommend keeping games, if you play a lot of them, on your second (traditional) hard drive, because games will suck up disk space faster than anything else.
Intel 520 SSDs are the absolute best in terms of reliability, but they're not quite as fast as the Samsung drives (very close, though) and they're a tad pricey.
As for SSD size, 128GB should be enough for Windows and your programs. I'd recommend keeping games, if you play a lot of them, on your second (traditional) hard drive, because games will suck up disk space faster than anything else.
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Kingston Hyper X 3k- Highly Recommened
ADATA XPG SX900- Very Identical as the Kingston Hyper X 3K as in internal and sandforce controller
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Samsung 840 series-
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OCZ Vertex 4 or Velociraptor - Avoid other OLDER OCZ SSD as they are know to have bad firmware and fail rates. Most know to be bad back then due to they were the major producers of SSD in the begining of the market. But new ones are good now.
I have not tried the Corsiar SSD or know anyone yet. But it is a good company that stands behind their products and support.
-----------------Shopping
I always do the math of 1GB perUSD rule by Grand total GB memory and take off
50% of it. Then add $20. This mostly happens when they go on sale. This is when I start off with. Then the added value is the speeds with newer controllers which
is more $$$.
Get at least a 120GB. The 240GB or little more GB off are not getting the same ratio deals as the 120GB types. But these days the bigger SSD memory are getting cheaper and better. Just use that mock formula for value wish.
Always check your Newegg/Tigerdirect/Amazon/etc sites for deals. Good luck
ALso read on how to set up your SSD so it will last longer such as turning off Defrag disk.
I recommend SSD for install OS and programs and regular data on hardrives. Games maybe for loading times. but not much needed as they are fine of Hardisks.
ADATA XPG SX900- Very Identical as the Kingston Hyper X 3K as in internal and sandforce controller
-------------------
Samsung 840 series-
----------------------
OCZ Vertex 4 or Velociraptor - Avoid other OLDER OCZ SSD as they are know to have bad firmware and fail rates. Most know to be bad back then due to they were the major producers of SSD in the begining of the market. But new ones are good now.
I have not tried the Corsiar SSD or know anyone yet. But it is a good company that stands behind their products and support.
-----------------Shopping
I always do the math of 1GB perUSD rule by Grand total GB memory and take off
50% of it. Then add $20. This mostly happens when they go on sale. This is when I start off with. Then the added value is the speeds with newer controllers which
is more $$$.
Get at least a 120GB. The 240GB or little more GB off are not getting the same ratio deals as the 120GB types. But these days the bigger SSD memory are getting cheaper and better. Just use that mock formula for value wish.
Always check your Newegg/Tigerdirect/Amazon/etc sites for deals. Good luck
ALso read on how to set up your SSD so it will last longer such as turning off Defrag disk.
I recommend SSD for install OS and programs and regular data on hardrives. Games maybe for loading times. but not much needed as they are fine of Hardisks.