Outlaw possession of written accounts of child abuse says MP

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19574487

So, the UK, not just content with the banning the posession of loli drawings a few years back, now wants to make text dipictions of sexual loli situations illegal.


Welcome to Neo-North Korea.

It just says child abuse. It doesn't outright say that they outlawed sexual loli situations. So long as the loli isn't abused, there isn't anything saying it's illegal.

50/50 on the law not applying to shota.

Here, in the UK, loli and child are the same thing. (At least according to idiots in the gov't and other morons.)

Yeah, I figured as much. However, sexual interaction is okay. Hurting the child is not okay. That's basically what the article says.

North korea has no anti loli laws. Your example is incorrect.

Strange.

I read that that law only applied if the image was realistic or indistinguishable from photographs - so basically only if the content resembled, or is, a real life human and said content could be used to feed a depraved habit, such as those in a pedophile ring.

Edit:

Nope, never mind. Apparently there was a ban on all content depicting under 18s, even Hentai.

Can blame children's charities being hypersensitive for that one.

Well, that's not a problem. After all, even the high schoolers in hentai are at least 18 years of age or older, regardless of whether they're a first year in high school or not.

It's a problem for Lolicons

But then again, the Internet provides all the wonders of the world - both wonderful and disturbing

They can just say that they're really 700 years old, like most of the lolis in Touhou are. Problem solved enough for one day.

Actually loli falls under "obscenity" here in the UK.

That said, I find dozens of things obscene but they're not illegal. (Actors paychecks for example. Nobody needs >$1,000,000 for one episode of a show or movie.)

Do leaders actually think banning/restricting loli will stop people from becoming pedophiles?

Cause if so, that is just silly. Pedophiles existed long before loli came along, and no amount of censorship will suddenly stop them from popping up or targeting real life children. I am all for protecting real life children from abuse, but i don't see this helping in that regard

If anything theres a small chance the really depraved people(i'd say like 1% of the people who look at it) would then try and do it in real life. no one wants that.

Having sex with a child is child abuse. It doesn't mean 'you can have sex with them, you just can't punch them in the face'. Shocking, I know.





Coroners and Justice Act 2009; look it up. It's been 'actively enforced' for two years now. I still see technically loli doujins every time I go to expos. No more naked loli bedsheets though. Kudos to them on that.

However, what if the child were to, say, drug the adult and have sex with said adult while they're disoriented or sleeping? The adult would be unable to resist. 'Tis an almost impossible idea in reality, but fiction isn't real. Would this still qualify as "child abuse" even though the adult had no idea that any of this would happen and had no control over it?

Right, for starters, you're dealing in absurd hypotheticals. To clear things up: the law would not literally say 'depictions of child abuse'. It would cater for broad scenarios in which the child is engaged in sexual acts. That example is clearly written for people who want to think that a child would do that.

As they mentioned Nabokov, it's safe to say that the law would follow similar lines to the law on indecent images. That is, the primary purpose of the text would have to be deemed to be arousal. So if this featured in a published novel, no. If it was a piece of online fiction, yes.

Pedophilia existed long before loli hentai came along.If someone is depraved enough to want to abuse children, i don't think restricting loli porn will make them second guess that.

For some abuse survivors, sometimes writing accounts can be therapeutic.

That said, we ought to avoid abuse-memory-triggering language and writing in most media, just to be safe. However, I don't see it as a huge issue at all right now: if anything, child abuse accounts are very hush-hush in most circles.

If they ban loli more, it wouldn't help them to stop pedobears. It's like banning alcohols and narcotics to alcoholics and chain smokers -- they'll surely find a way to fill in their desires, but in a stealthy and not-so-good way.

How about shota? Aren't they banning that too?