Question for Loli fans/Lolicons!
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What is a common trope you see in loli hentai that really annoys you and why?
And if there's a trope that you actually enjoy what are those and why?
And if there's a trope that you actually enjoy what are those and why?
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cactus5390 wrote...
when they look like literal BABIESThat's closer fetuscon then lolicon. After this comes toddlercon and then lolicon...
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JAHT wrote...
cactus5390 wrote...
when they look like literal BABIESThat's closer fetuscon then lolicon. After this comes toddlercon and then lolicon...
Aside from that, got an answer for my question? xP
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the fact that Loli hentai exist.
its pedophilia. and it makes me angry that people just write it off as "1000 year old ancient dragon in her human form that just so happens to look like a 8 year old"
its pedophilia. and it makes me angry that people just write it off as "1000 year old ancient dragon in her human form that just so happens to look like a 8 year old"
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deadbydelilah wrote...
the fact that Loli hentai exist.its pedophilia. and it makes me angry that people just write it off as "1000 year old ancient dragon in her human form that just so happens to look like a 8 year old"
Then don't look at it if it makes you mad. :)
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luinthoron
High Priest of Loli
I don't think any of the really annoying tropes are common enough to be a concern. Maybe tricking them into doing things.
As for what I like to see, vanilla-ish couples or proactive loli who know exactly what they're doing usually work the best without any bad feelings about the situation.
As for what I like to see, vanilla-ish couples or proactive loli who know exactly what they're doing usually work the best without any bad feelings about the situation.
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I'll give it a go~
There's actually a trope that I actually hate to see it alot on loli hentai, and honestly this trope isn't even with shota hentai so it amazes me that it's somehow "loli only" thing.
And that is how the characters LOVE to emphasize that they're "XX year old" or they're "XX grader schoolgirl".
Like I'm not sure about you, but when they get repetitive saying it over and over again, it can get very annoying and uncomfortable in my opinion. >_
There's actually a trope that I actually hate to see it alot on loli hentai, and honestly this trope isn't even with shota hentai so it amazes me that it's somehow "loli only" thing.
And that is how the characters LOVE to emphasize that they're "XX year old" or they're "XX grader schoolgirl".
Like I'm not sure about you, but when they get repetitive saying it over and over again, it can get very annoying and uncomfortable in my opinion. >_
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MasterClassic wrote...
Aside from that, got an answer for my question? xPYeah, I actually do: When they do the "legal loli" dance.
The whole thing about lolicon is that it's idealized fantasy pedophelia.
Making a loli of legal age saps the whole thing of what appeals to me in the first place.
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silentswordsman53
Nightstalker
I guess the repetitive xx age annoys me a little. I kinda filter it out along with OO-kun.
It's not really a trope, but I don't really like works where the loli looks to be 8 or under. The ones that focus on impregnation before they've entered puberty is a tad disturbing. Especially when it's forced, mind control, rape, ect.... Really not a fan of that stuff.
I predominately read loli doujins/ manga mostly for the height difference. I prefer it when the girls are the perverts or instigators. It comes across as something they have knowledge about and consent to. I tend to prefer lovey-dovey vanilla, or slightly slutty girls that could pass as insatiable succubi. I also like oppai loli... at times.. It really depends on the artist.
Sometimes the immortal/ eternal loli stories can actually tell a decent plot. Actually read two this morning where the girls had to endure the hardships of their immortality. One whom wanted to forget the pain of loss. The other wanting an end to her curse. The first had a bittersweet happy ending. The other was a bit more depressing.
It's not really a trope, but I don't really like works where the loli looks to be 8 or under. The ones that focus on impregnation before they've entered puberty is a tad disturbing. Especially when it's forced, mind control, rape, ect.... Really not a fan of that stuff.
I predominately read loli doujins/ manga mostly for the height difference. I prefer it when the girls are the perverts or instigators. It comes across as something they have knowledge about and consent to. I tend to prefer lovey-dovey vanilla, or slightly slutty girls that could pass as insatiable succubi. I also like oppai loli... at times.. It really depends on the artist.
Sometimes the immortal/ eternal loli stories can actually tell a decent plot. Actually read two this morning where the girls had to endure the hardships of their immortality. One whom wanted to forget the pain of loss. The other wanting an end to her curse. The first had a bittersweet happy ending. The other was a bit more depressing.
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MasterClassic wrote...
deadbydelilah wrote...
the fact that Loli hentai exist.its pedophilia. and it makes me angry that people just write it off as "1000 year old ancient dragon in her human form that just so happens to look like a 8 year old"
Then don't look at it if it makes you mad. :)
what makes me angry about it is the normalization of sexualization of people who are pre-pubescent.
its not as simple as "hey man if you aint into it just dont look at it"
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luinthoron
High Priest of Loli
deadbydelilah wrote...
MasterClassic wrote...
deadbydelilah wrote...
the fact that Loli hentai exist.its pedophilia. and it makes me angry that people just write it off as "1000 year old ancient dragon in her human form that just so happens to look like a 8 year old"
Then don't look at it if it makes you mad. :)
what makes me angry about it is the normalization of sexualization of people who are pre-pubescent.
its not as simple as "hey man if you aint into it just dont look at it"
May I point out that your own signature includes this "gem" about far younger people:
-fuck a pregnant girl call it a threesome
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deadbydelilah wrote...
what makes me angry about it is the normalization of sexualization of people who are pre-pubescent. its not as simple as "hey man if you aint into it just dont look at it"
You're jumping through conclusions there. Assuming people who are watching/reading loli hentai and think of sexualization of minors as normal is just as reasonable as expecting people to think they can go super saiyan. People buy into a sexual fantasy here and most of 'em are actually very good at telling fantasy and reality apart. I'm a massive lolicon and obviously, I detest actual child pornography to the highest degree since children get abused during it's production. So it's far from normalizing.
Children don't work in real life like they do in lolicon hentai.
Heck, sex doesn't work in real life like in hentai. It doesn't even work in real life like it does in live action pornography.
People know these things, you know?
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JAHT wrote...
deadbydelilah wrote...
what makes me angry about it is the normalization of sexualization of people who are pre-pubescent. its not as simple as "hey man if you aint into it just dont look at it"
You're jumping through conclusions there. Assuming people who are watching/reading loli hentai and think of sexualization of minors as normal is just as reasonable as expecting people to think they can go super saiyan. People buy into a sexual fantasy here and most of 'em are actually very good at telling fantasy and reality apart. I'm a massive lolicon and obviously, I detest actual child pornography to the highest degree since children get abused during it's production. So it's far from normalizing.
Children don't work in real life like they do in lolicon hentai.
Heck, sex doesn't work in real life like in hentai. It doesn't even work in real life like it does in live action pornography.
People know these things, you know?
Yeah, I actually do: When they do the "legal loli" dance.
The whole thing about lolicon is that it's idealized fantasy pedophelia.
Making a loli of legal age saps the whole thing of what appeals to me in the first place.[/quote]
i just cant get with this idea dude. the phrase "IDEALIZED FANTASY PEDOPHILIA" IS NOT something that should thrown around.
yeah your right this is fantasy. porn in general is usually an exageration, but what does it for most people is the IDEA FOR IT. in BDSM people enjoy the control of another person (or lack there of depending on what end your on). in roleplay people like the IDEA of doing something they probably would never be able to do. (like that episode of south park where that guy fucked his wife dressed like the UPS man) with lolis people enjoy the idea of fucking kids.
IM probably going to get so much shit for this since im on a anime related forum but lolis just something i cant get with.
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deadbydelilah wrote...
i just cant get with this idea dude. the phrase "IDEALIZED FANTASY PEDOPHILIA" IS NOT something that should thrown around.yeah your right this is fantasy. porn in general is usually an exageration, but what does it for most people is the IDEA FOR IT. in BDSM people enjoy the control of another person (or lack there of depending on what end your on). in roleplay people like the IDEA of doing something they probably would never be able to do. (like that episode of south park where that guy fucked his wife dressed like the UPS man) with lolis people enjoy the idea of fucking kids.
IM probably going to get so much shit for this since im on a anime related forum but lolis just something i cant get with.
Nah, you won't get feces for it. At least not from me. I won't even downvote your posts since you're civil and reasonable about your views.
But you're actually right on about something there: In BDSM people enjoy the control of another person. But it's actually, again, the fantasy of control they enjoy because they aren't in total control (assuming they doing it correct and not the 50 Shades of Grey style) that's why there's savewords whenever someone goes too far.
I can understand why you are appaled by the idea of it. That's a natural reaction. As a heterosexual person I'm also somewhat squicked out by homosexual sex, which probably resulted in some comments I wish I never made during my younger years. But I've grown.
Basically, the only way you could convince me that lolicon stuff is per se bad is if you showed me sufficiant factual, scientifically confirmed evidence that consuming lolicon media does indeed make the consumer abuse children.
Since we're at that, here's some untrue myths about real life child abuse:
Stranger danger: Over 90% of actual child abuse is carried out by sonmeone close to the child who is trusted by the child and their family.
Child abusers are pedophiles: Only a small amount actually are. Most are attracted to both adult woman and children. A lot target children as a substitute for adult women since children are easier to manipulate.
Sexual attraction to children is rare: It's much more common than you'd think. Studies are rare since theres an obvious stigma and few people would be willing to admit that they are attracted to children. I have seen studies and estimates that go all the way from 3% of adult males to 30%. However, most of them are simply decent people who know it would be wrong to act on those urges, just as most people who are attracted to adult females know it would be wrong to rape.
Let all that sink in for a bit.
BTW, I live in a country were loli and shota is perfectly legal (if probably frowned upon) while real child pornography is obviously very illegal as it should be.
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It's fine not liking it as long as it's not about preventing others from enjoying drawings.
To respond to OP. One thing I don't like about is the age-look mismatch. I like Comic Towako with the immortal supernatural lolis tho.
To respond to OP. One thing I don't like about is the age-look mismatch. I like Comic Towako with the immortal supernatural lolis tho.
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smug fennec wrote...
To respond to OP. One thing I don't like about is the age-look mismatch. I like Comic Towako with the immortal supernatural lolis tho.So basically the legol loli dance I mentioned earlier?
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JAHT wrote...
smug fennec wrote...
To respond to OP. One thing I don't like about is the age-look mismatch. I like Comic Towako with the immortal supernatural lolis tho.So basically the legol loli dance I mentioned earlier?
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JAHT wrote...
smug fennec wrote...
To respond to OP. One thing I don't like about is the age-look mismatch. I like Comic Towako with the immortal supernatural lolis tho.So basically the legol loli dance I mentioned earlier?
I must tell you that lolicon is not an age based fetish but a body type.
So i strongly disagree with you saying that it's somehow an "idealized pedophilia"
Lolis has always been a body type rather than age.
So the fact that you SOMEHOW don't like Legal Lolis (even though they're drawings and age means fuck all) for some reason is just weird.
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MasterClassic wrote...
I must tell you that lolicon is not an age based fetish but a body type.So i strongly disagree with you saying that it's somehow an "idealized pedophilia"
Lolis has always been a body type rather than age.
So the fact that you SOMEHOW don't like Legal Lolis (even though they're drawings and age means fuck all) for some reason is just weird.
I guess that's debatable. I checked three different dictionaries and all defined lolicon as "an attraction to young/underage/prepubescent girls". Even if you say it's the bodytype that attracts you it's still the body type of a child, wouldn't you say?
But speaking only for myself, yeah it's the forbidden fruit appeal that hooks me in here. That's why I don't like the whole legal loli thing. The whole thing appeals as a fantasy to me because it is inherently immoral and hence something I'd never do in real life.
On the inverse end, I'd probably like a manga if it depicts 8 year old girls with the bodies of 32 year old mature ladies if they still have that childish, easy to manipulate mentality so said appeal remains intact.