The truth about Marijuana
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After the poll I gave out, I've found that a lot of people dont understand the basics of marijuana
If your interested about the truth, just search part 2 in youtube.
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Mucky56 wrote...
After the poll I gave out, I've found that a lot of people dont understand the basics of marijuana
If your interested about the truth, just search part 2 in youtube.
'm sorry but i just don't have the patience to watch that. its ten minutes long -.-
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i beleive im the only one who reached all the way to part 4 xD i do have to say its an interesting watch.
But nothings gonna change unless the american government chose to change it =S
But nothings gonna change unless the american government chose to change it =S
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"I would say it would be hundreds of billions." I laughed so hard at this.
"You can die from drinking too much coffee." Yeah, you can also die from drinking too much water.
Sounds pretty convincing, but now I need the other side of the argument. I still wouldn't do it though even if I was okay with it.
"You can die from drinking too much coffee." Yeah, you can also die from drinking too much water.
Sounds pretty convincing, but now I need the other side of the argument. I still wouldn't do it though even if I was okay with it.
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For people who dont want to watch through the whole video...
I'll spoil it for you!
Marijuana....
-Doesn't kill braincells
-Doesn't kill people
-Doesn't cause cancer
-Only causes temporary shortness of memory
-It isn't addictive
-Its worth more than gold
-Drug dealers make shit loads of money, so this should help the economy if legalized
I'll spoil it for you!
Marijuana....
-Doesn't kill braincells
-Doesn't kill people
-Doesn't cause cancer
-Only causes temporary shortness of memory
-It isn't addictive
-Its worth more than gold
-Drug dealers make shit loads of money, so this should help the economy if legalized
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Mucky56 wrote...
-Doesn't kill people"Nothing is poisonous, only the dosage is."
Mucky56 wrote...
-Doesn't cause cancerEVERYTHING causes cancer. Seriously. Just you sitting there is causing cancer.
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Klorofolun wrote...
Mucky56 wrote...
-Doesn't kill people"Nothing is poisonous, only the dosage is."
Mucky56 wrote...
-Doesn't cause cancerEVERYTHING causes cancer. Seriously. Just you sitting there is causing cancer.
First quote...
You cannot overdose on marijuana, unless you smoke 15,000 joints in 20 minutes
Second quote...
Illogical
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Mucky56 wrote...
Klorofolun wrote...
Mucky56 wrote...
-Doesn't kill people"Nothing is poisonous, only the dosage is."
Mucky56 wrote...
-Doesn't cause cancerEVERYTHING causes cancer. Seriously. Just you sitting there is causing cancer.
First quote...
You cannot overdose on marijuana, unless you smoke 15,000 joints in 20 minutes
Second quote...
Illogical
What, are you Spock? :lol:
Anyway, Cancer is caused by mutated cells that grow out of control. What mutates cells? Everything. Light, heat, that burrito you just ate, etc.
And it's great that you're defending marijuana and all, but you probably should put some anti-marijuana stuff up there, then refute THAT so at least people have two sides of the story. -_-
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Klorofolun wrote...
Mucky56 wrote...
Klorofolun wrote...
Mucky56 wrote...
-Doesn't kill people"Nothing is poisonous, only the dosage is."
Mucky56 wrote...
-Doesn't cause cancerEVERYTHING causes cancer. Seriously. Just you sitting there is causing cancer.
First quote...
You cannot overdose on marijuana, unless you smoke 15,000 joints in 20 minutes
Second quote...
Illogical
What, are you Spock? :lol:
Anyway, Cancer is caused by mutated cells that grow out of control. What mutates cells? Everything. Light, heat, that burrito you just ate, etc.
And it's great that you're defending marijuana and all, but you probably should put some anti-marijuana stuff up there, then refute THAT so at least people have two sides of the story. -_-
Marijuana cant cause lung cancer, since it kills any mutated cells growing.
Well I have thought about putting what anti-smokers thoughts would be, but you have to admit that we all the debates from schools, television, parents, etc.
And those damn commercials... they're so damn stupid.
Like that dog telling us we're not the same when we smoke... well no shit, your not same when your drunk either
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Mucky56 wrote...
Marijuana cant cause lung cancer, since it kills any mutated cells growing.I don't think that it can prevent cancer, unless it's got magical smoke that only kills bad cells. >.>
Although I will concede that we pretty much know all the arguments by this point.
Although all of my anti-drug experience that I remember is "Don't do them or you'll get AIDS." :? Anyone else feel the same way?
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Mucky56 wrote...
Marijuana cant cause lung cancer, since it kills any mutated cells growing.Well I have thought about putting what anti-smokers thoughts would be, but you have to admit that we all the debates from schools, television, parents, etc.
And those damn commercials... they're so damn stupid.
Like that dog telling us we're not the same when we smoke... well no shit, your not same when your drunk either
People always use the alcohol comparison, but I think they are both pretty bad. Ultimately I think marijuana is illegal and alcohol isn't because marijuana was a much easier nut to crack, so to speak. While the history of marijuana use is far reaching, it has nothing on alcohol.
I always maintain that two wrongs don't make a right.
To reply to your video though:
The idea that marijuana is illegal only because our government was worried it would pacify our citizens and weaken our will to fight is so ridiculous I couldn’t help but laugh. The video is good though, they did an excellent job of jumping from one historical fact to another while filling the grey area between with their own biased opinions. This makes their opinions also look credible and factual by association.
An example of this is how they are pretending that hemp was made illegal because it competed with other fibers used to make ropes and clothes. The United States has always, and still does, grow hemp for industrial purposes. Hemp was never legalized for WWII, because industrial hemp was never illegal in the first place. The US just handed out more licenses to grow hemp during WWII. They are right that congress passed the marijuana tax act, but there is nothing wrong with placing a tax on a product. And certainly with a product such as hemp that has so many uses, there is nothing wrong with wanting to control what it is used for.
They are right about brain cell damage… to my knowledge there really is no evidence to suggest brain cells are killed by smoking pot. Cancer however really does have links to the drug. The active ingredients in marijuana are refered to as cannabinoids. The brain actually creates its own cannabinoid called anandamide, which is involved with memory regulation, pain, and the immune system. The cannabinoids in marijuana give you a high by reacting with the same receptors that normally receive anadamide, but obviously in much higher quantities. In short, marijuana provides a weak sort of immune system deficiency, which is damaging to your body’s natural defenses against cancer (among other things). It doesn't directly cause cancer specifically though, but users of marijuana might be more susceptible.
I still stand by what I said in your other thread, and would agree that the penalties for marijuana use are too high. The DEA wastes way too much money tracking down users of what is defiantly one of the most mild of illegal substances. But all the same, I think leaving marijuana illegal is important, because it encourages people to keep it to themselves. Also I should point out that while it may generate billions of dollars while it is illegal, if marijuana ever became legalized its value would drop massively.
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StaticChange wrote...
Mucky56 wrote...
Marijuana cant cause lung cancer, since it kills any mutated cells growing.Well I have thought about putting what anti-smokers thoughts would be, but you have to admit that we all the debates from schools, television, parents, etc.
And those damn commercials... they're so damn stupid.
Like that dog telling us we're not the same when we smoke... well no shit, your not same when your drunk either
People always use the alcohol comparison, but I think they are both pretty bad. Ultimately I think marijuana is illegal and alcohol isn't because marijuana was a much easier nut to crack, so to speak. While the history of marijuana use is far reaching, it has nothing on alcohol.
I always maintain that two wrongs don't make a right.
To reply to your video though:
The idea that marijuana is illegal only because our government was worried it would pacify our citizens and weaken our will to fight is so ridiculous I couldn’t help but laugh. The video is good though, they did an excellent job of jumping from one historical fact to another while filling the grey area between with their own biased opinions. This makes their opinions also look credible and factual by association.
An example of this is how they are pretending that hemp was made illegal because it competed with other fibers used to make ropes and clothes. The United States has always, and still does, grow hemp for industrial purposes. Hemp was never legalized for WWII, because industrial hemp was never illegal in the first place. The US just handed out more licenses to grow hemp during WWII. They are right that congress passed the marijuana tax act, but there is nothing wrong with placing a tax on a product. And certainly with a product such as hemp that has so many uses, there is nothing wrong with wanting to control what it is used for.
They are right about brain cell damage… to my knowledge there really is no evidence to suggest brain cells are killed by smoking pot. Cancer however really does have links to the drug. The active ingredients in marijuana are refered to as cannabinoids. The brain actually creates its own cannabinoid called anandamide, which is involved with memory regulation, pain, and the immune system. The cannabinoids in marijuana give you a high by reacting with the same receptors that normally receive anadamide, but obviously in much higher quantities. In short, marijuana provides a weak sort of immune system deficiency, which is damaging to your body’s natural defenses against cancer (among other things). It doesn't directly cause cancer specifically though, but users of marijuana might be more susceptible.
I still stand by what I said in your other thread, and would agree that the penalties for marijuana use are too high. The DEA wastes way too much money tracking down users of what is defiantly one of the most mild of illegal substances. But all the same, I think leaving marijuana illegal is important, because it encourages people to keep it to themselves. Also I should point out that while it may generate billions of dollars while it is illegal, if marijuana ever became legalized its value would drop massively.
Yeah it was bias, but still convincing compared to what anti-marijuana campaigners... they are fucking ignorant...
I've actually heard about the immune system before, so I 'equalize' my immune system with green tea :wink:
Its value would drop, but while at it, it can bring our economy back. It will produce thousands of new jobs, and take over the tobacco company :lol: .
But they really should legalize it, there are a lot of people who dont deserve to be in jail for a plant.
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Mucky56 wrote...
Yeah it was bias, but still convincing compared to what anti-marijuana campaigners... they are fucking ignorant...I've actually heard about the immune system before, so I 'equalize' my immune system with green tea :wink:
Its value would drop, but while at it, it can bring our economy back. It will produce thousands of new jobs, and take over the tobacco company :lol: .
But they really should legalize it, there are a lot of people who dont deserve to be in jail for a plant.
I think maybe you should read the third link in GinIchimaru_09's post, its a very interesting read. Also, one of the main problems with the immune system deficency caused by marijuana is that marijuana is frequently used in therapy for people who have diseases (like HIV). In many cases marijuana can actually make things worse. And by the way, marijuana may not kill brain cells, but frequent useage still impairs the brains ability to access memories (the symptoms of which people probably wrongly associated with brain cell loss).
And the video was more than just biased, lots of the opinions represented in it are completely unfounded.
In anycase, I've made my points, so unless someone posts a real challenge to them I probably wont post again.
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Mucky56 wrote...
And those damn commercials... they're so damn stupid.Like that dog telling us we're not the same when we smoke... well no shit, your not same when your drunk either
That commercial is such bullshit. When you're baked, you love your fucking dog!
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All smoke contains tar, and you get more tar from a joint than a filtered cigarette, because basically all a filter does is cut down on tar.
Still not as dangerous as some people would have you believe, but more so than hippies would have you believe.
Goddamned hippies.
Still not as dangerous as some people would have you believe, but more so than hippies would have you believe.
Goddamned hippies.
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While i'm against Marijuana heres a link about Marijuana and lung cancer.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729_pf.html
Also Mucky56 you really souldnt talk a about people being bais when you are incredibly bais.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729_pf.html
Also Mucky56 you really souldnt talk a about people being bais when you are incredibly bais.
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Myth: Marijuana is More Damaging to the Lungs Than Tobacco. Marijuana smokers are at a high risk of developing lung cancer, bronchitis, and emphysema.
Fact: Moderate smoking of marijuana appears to pose minimal danger to the lungs. Like tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke contains a number of irritants and carcinogens. But marijuana users typically smoke much less often than tobacco smokers, and over time, inhale much less smoke. As a result, the risk of serious lung damage should be lower in marijuana smokers. There have been no reports of lung cancer related solely to marijuana, and in a large study presented to the American Thoracic Society in 2006, even heavy users of smoked marijuana were found not to have any increased risk of lung cancer. Unlike heavy tobacco smokers, heavy marijuana smokers exhibit no obstruction of the lung's small airway. That indicates that people will not develop emphysema from smoking marijuana.
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Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse. “Legalization: Panacea or Pandora’s Box.” New York. (1995): 36.
Most of the negative things you hear about marijuana is a lie. In fact the source of US governments negative effects is themselves, so that shows you how reliable and accurate their information is.
Fact: Moderate smoking of marijuana appears to pose minimal danger to the lungs. Like tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke contains a number of irritants and carcinogens. But marijuana users typically smoke much less often than tobacco smokers, and over time, inhale much less smoke. As a result, the risk of serious lung damage should be lower in marijuana smokers. There have been no reports of lung cancer related solely to marijuana, and in a large study presented to the American Thoracic Society in 2006, even heavy users of smoked marijuana were found not to have any increased risk of lung cancer. Unlike heavy tobacco smokers, heavy marijuana smokers exhibit no obstruction of the lung's small airway. That indicates that people will not develop emphysema from smoking marijuana.
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Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse. “Legalization: Panacea or Pandora’s Box.” New York. (1995): 36.
Most of the negative things you hear about marijuana is a lie. In fact the source of US governments negative effects is themselves, so that shows you how reliable and accurate their information is.