Bipolar Disorder
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With the utmost respect your efforts, I believe the child needs assistance comprehending and with how to behave around the father's bipolar. The proper medicine can help, but it needs constant monitoring by an expert. Even the most "on paper, looks good" medicine for bipolar can go awefully sour in a short time. I have never met a psychaiatrist who did not have several back up prescriptions in case the first one didn't work out. Even something as simple as a mood stabilizer can back fire quickly, believe me I have been there when it did.
In my experience the only universal medicine for it is tranquilizers, but the psychological stress of using them for an extended period of time on a patient is beyond acceptable.
It is my opinion that it would be possible to recommend a few possible drugs for short term use, so I am not saying your efforts are wasted or unwarranted, I am simply saying that it both cannot be solved through it.
As the issue is the agony the father suffers, again the ability to understand the disorder is more important than the urge to mitigate it.
In my experience the only universal medicine for it is tranquilizers, but the psychological stress of using them for an extended period of time on a patient is beyond acceptable.
It is my opinion that it would be possible to recommend a few possible drugs for short term use, so I am not saying your efforts are wasted or unwarranted, I am simply saying that it both cannot be solved through it.
As the issue is the agony the father suffers, again the ability to understand the disorder is more important than the urge to mitigate it.
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WolfgangLuciferMclain wrote...
With the utmost respect your efforts, I believe the child needs assistance comprehending and with how to behave around the father's bipolar. The proper medicine can help, but it needs constant monitoring by an expert. Even the most "on paper, looks good" medicine for bipolar can go awefully sour in a short time. I have never met a psychaiatrist who did not have several back up prescriptions in case the first one didn't work out. Even something as simple as a mood stabilizer can back fire quickly, believe me I have been there when it did.In my experience the only universal medicine for it is tranquilizers, but the psychological stress of using them for an extended period of time on a patient is beyond acceptable.
It is my opinion that it would be possible to recommend a few possible drugs for short term use, so I am not saying your efforts are wasted or unwarranted, I am simply saying that it both cannot be solved through it.
As the issue is the agony the father suffers, again the ability to understand the disorder is more important than the urge to mitigate it.
He's been trying to understand it. Meh sedatives?Really?We don't need an all purpose knock out that will make him completely emotionless and would cost more than its small worth.Besides, not only is the person non psychotic but is in no need anxiolytics, to even suggest tranquilizers is the easy way out. We're trying to provide a long lasting solution to this harrowing problem and since the family and child in case are irresponsive towards their father's plight whether by necessity or choice, that's not up to me, it's the only solution.I have full faith in what I have recommended, whilst the common prescription I have to admit loses effect in months and dosage has to be permanently increased, I'm providing something to calm reaction instead of receptors, diverting that whole problem. There is not a psychological disorder than can be solved through treatment, no matter how much you try, what we can try to do is lessen it, the option now as always is not the solution but the prevention.Truly, I wish and believe that if any of us could guide them to understanding it, that would be the best choice, however as it is, that's not what we are capable of or they, we must try our best still though.
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Darkhilt wrote...
WolfgangLuciferMclain wrote...
With the utmost respect your efforts, I believe the child needs assistance comprehending and with how to behave around the father's bipolar. The proper medicine can help, but it needs constant monitoring by an expert. Even the most "on paper, looks good" medicine for bipolar can go awefully sour in a short time. I have never met a psychaiatrist who did not have several back up prescriptions in case the first one didn't work out. Even something as simple as a mood stabilizer can back fire quickly, believe me I have been there when it did.In my experience the only universal medicine for it is tranquilizers, but the psychological stress of using them for an extended period of time on a patient is beyond acceptable.
It is my opinion that it would be possible to recommend a few possible drugs for short term use, so I am not saying your efforts are wasted or unwarranted, I am simply saying that it both cannot be solved through it.
As the issue is the agony the father suffers, again the ability to understand the disorder is more important than the urge to mitigate it.
He's been trying to understand it. Meh sedatives?Really?We don't need an all purpose knock out that will make him completely emotionless and would cost more than its small worth.Besides, not only is the person non psychotic but is in no need anxiolytics, to even suggest tranquilizers is the easy way out. We're trying to provide a long lasting solution to this harrowing problem and since the family and child in case are irresponsive towards their father's plight whether by necessity or choice, that's not up to me, it's the only solution.I have full faith in what I have recommended, whilst the common prescription I have to admit loses effect in months and dosage has to be permanently increased, I'm providing something to calm reaction instead of receptors, diverting that whole problem. There is not a psychological disorder than can be solved through treatment, no matter how much you try, what we can try to do is lessen it, the option now as always is not the solution but the prevention.Truly, I wish and believe that if any of us could guide them to understanding it, that would be the best choice, however as it is, that's not what we are capable of or they, we must try our best still though.
Indeed the family is non responsive, but child wishes not to be.
As I noted, the tranquilizer is a complete joke of solution, I was simply noting that it was the only medicine I knew of that worked the same for every patient.
With a bipolar patient much of the relief or agony can come from those around them understanding and acting appropriately.
I have no disagreement with you about the utility of prevention, only a disagreement about the ability to implement it by way of drugs as there is a degree of chance with how the patient reacts to it.
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WolfgangLuciferMclain wrote...
Darkhilt wrote...
WolfgangLuciferMclain wrote...
With the utmost respect your efforts, I believe the child needs assistance comprehending and with how to behave around the father's bipolar. The proper medicine can help, but it needs constant monitoring by an expert. Even the most "on paper, looks good" medicine for bipolar can go awefully sour in a short time. I have never met a psychaiatrist who did not have several back up prescriptions in case the first one didn't work out. Even something as simple as a mood stabilizer can back fire quickly, believe me I have been there when it did.In my experience the only universal medicine for it is tranquilizers, but the psychological stress of using them for an extended period of time on a patient is beyond acceptable.
It is my opinion that it would be possible to recommend a few possible drugs for short term use, so I am not saying your efforts are wasted or unwarranted, I am simply saying that it both cannot be solved through it.
As the issue is the agony the father suffers, again the ability to understand the disorder is more important than the urge to mitigate it.
He's been trying to understand it. Meh sedatives?Really?We don't need an all purpose knock out that will make him completely emotionless and would cost more than its small worth.Besides, not only is the person non psychotic but is in no need anxiolytics, to even suggest tranquilizers is the easy way out. We're trying to provide a long lasting solution to this harrowing problem and since the family and child in case are irresponsive towards their father's plight whether by necessity or choice, that's not up to me, it's the only solution.I have full faith in what I have recommended, whilst the common prescription I have to admit loses effect in months and dosage has to be permanently increased, I'm providing something to calm reaction instead of receptors, diverting that whole problem. There is not a psychological disorder than can be solved through treatment, no matter how much you try, what we can try to do is lessen it, the option now as always is not the solution but the prevention.Truly, I wish and believe that if any of us could guide them to understanding it, that would be the best choice, however as it is, that's not what we are capable of or they, we must try our best still though.
Indeed the family is non responsive, but child wishes not to be.
As I noted, the tranquilizer is a complete joke of solution.
With a bipolar patient much of the relief or agony can come from those around them understanding and acting appropriately.
Of course, environmental support is always best but how do we put that in effect?Not only is there any knowledgable basis within the subjects but there is also a lack of care and toomuch pride held for them to seek to understand.
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Darkhilt wrote...
WolfgangLuciferMclain wrote...
Darkhilt wrote...
WolfgangLuciferMclain wrote...
With the utmost respect your efforts, I believe the child needs assistance comprehending and with how to behave around the father's bipolar. The proper medicine can help, but it needs constant monitoring by an expert. Even the most "on paper, looks good" medicine for bipolar can go awefully sour in a short time. I have never met a psychaiatrist who did not have several back up prescriptions in case the first one didn't work out. Even something as simple as a mood stabilizer can back fire quickly, believe me I have been there when it did.In my experience the only universal medicine for it is tranquilizers, but the psychological stress of using them for an extended period of time on a patient is beyond acceptable.
It is my opinion that it would be possible to recommend a few possible drugs for short term use, so I am not saying your efforts are wasted or unwarranted, I am simply saying that it both cannot be solved through it.
As the issue is the agony the father suffers, again the ability to understand the disorder is more important than the urge to mitigate it.
He's been trying to understand it. Meh sedatives?Really?We don't need an all purpose knock out that will make him completely emotionless and would cost more than its small worth.Besides, not only is the person non psychotic but is in no need anxiolytics, to even suggest tranquilizers is the easy way out. We're trying to provide a long lasting solution to this harrowing problem and since the family and child in case are irresponsive towards their father's plight whether by necessity or choice, that's not up to me, it's the only solution.I have full faith in what I have recommended, whilst the common prescription I have to admit loses effect in months and dosage has to be permanently increased, I'm providing something to calm reaction instead of receptors, diverting that whole problem. There is not a psychological disorder than can be solved through treatment, no matter how much you try, what we can try to do is lessen it, the option now as always is not the solution but the prevention.Truly, I wish and believe that if any of us could guide them to understanding it, that would be the best choice, however as it is, that's not what we are capable of or they, we must try our best still though.
Indeed the family is non responsive, but child wishes not to be.
As I noted, the tranquilizer is a complete joke of solution.
With a bipolar patient much of the relief or agony can come from those around them understanding and acting appropriately.
Of course, environmental support is always best but how do we put that in effect?Not only is there any knowledgable basis within the subjects but there is also a lack of care and toomuch pride held for them to seek to understand.
The patient himself need not be involved in the process, the child's actions will suffice. Hence the need to educate the child. Although I should stop say the child since we do have a name. Chronus can develop the understanding and act accordingly, I have PMed him with an offer to answer any questions but I would also like to steer the topic's conversation towards discussing the facts surrounding bipolar, and far more importantly what the father is experiencing and how he is thinking.
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Manic Depression can be a very volatile and destructive disorder if not kept under regulatory control. Prescription Medication can make a huge difference [Assuming the individual finds the right method of treatment as mutually decided with their Psychologist or Physician.] Additionally, therapy can be a useful tool to help your father recognize irrational behaviors and thoughts, and figure out a healthy way to cope with/improve them.
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WolfgangLuciferMclain wrote...
Darkhilt wrote...
WolfgangLuciferMclain wrote...
Darkhilt wrote...
WolfgangLuciferMclain wrote...
With the utmost respect your efforts, I believe the child needs assistance comprehending and with how to behave around the father's bipolar. The proper medicine can help, but it needs constant monitoring by an expert. Even the most "on paper, looks good" medicine for bipolar can go awefully sour in a short time. I have never met a psychaiatrist who did not have several back up prescriptions in case the first one didn't work out. Even something as simple as a mood stabilizer can back fire quickly, believe me I have been there when it did.In my experience the only universal medicine for it is tranquilizers, but the psychological stress of using them for an extended period of time on a patient is beyond acceptable.
It is my opinion that it would be possible to recommend a few possible drugs for short term use, so I am not saying your efforts are wasted or unwarranted, I am simply saying that it both cannot be solved through it.
As the issue is the agony the father suffers, again the ability to understand the disorder is more important than the urge to mitigate it.
He's been trying to understand it. Meh sedatives?Really?We don't need an all purpose knock out that will make him completely emotionless and would cost more than its small worth.Besides, not only is the person non psychotic but is in no need anxiolytics, to even suggest tranquilizers is the easy way out. We're trying to provide a long lasting solution to this harrowing problem and since the family and child in case are irresponsive towards their father's plight whether by necessity or choice, that's not up to me, it's the only solution.I have full faith in what I have recommended, whilst the common prescription I have to admit loses effect in months and dosage has to be permanently increased, I'm providing something to calm reaction instead of receptors, diverting that whole problem. There is not a psychological disorder than can be solved through treatment, no matter how much you try, what we can try to do is lessen it, the option now as always is not the solution but the prevention.Truly, I wish and believe that if any of us could guide them to understanding it, that would be the best choice, however as it is, that's not what we are capable of or they, we must try our best still though.
Indeed the family is non responsive, but child wishes not to be.
As I noted, the tranquilizer is a complete joke of solution.
With a bipolar patient much of the relief or agony can come from those around them understanding and acting appropriately.
Of course, environmental support is always best but how do we put that in effect?Not only is there any knowledgable basis within the subjects but there is also a lack of care and toomuch pride held for them to seek to understand.
The patient himself need not be involved in the process, the child's actions will suffice. Hence the need to educate the child. Although I should stop say the child since we do have a name. Chronus can develop the understanding and act accordingly, I have PMed him with an offer to answer any questions but I would also like to steer the topic's conversation towards discussing the facts surrounding bipolar, and far more importantly what the father is experiencing and how he is thinking.
I probably need to be educated with the medications. But more importantly, how can I help a person who is not really interested in helping himself?Though he's been cooperative lately. and about your pm, please regard your questions here, so that other professionals can also see. and thank you very much
Darkhilt wrote...
Then if you would like, ask for the following at your local drug store-Lamictal: stabilizes mood and cheap, 10-20$ US (about 645 php for 30 tablets), may cause adverse reactions and has high chances of causing a small, small rash.Youll need to ask the person there about it as I don't know if it's the same as here.Its good for acute cases of manic occasions like what your father has.
Amisulpride(Solian, Sulpitac, Amitrex,Soltus)- Expensive, but even small doses solves depression, also stabilizes mood efficiently.
Other than those two I don't think it will be quite easy to get the alternatives I'm thinking of that require hundreds of dollars for continuous treatment and could cause dangerous relapse.If there is a physician at the drug store mention this
Diagnosis: 296.6x , no Li2co3, anticonvulsants suggested, Mania w/o psychotic symptoms, change as needed.No antidepressants(background provided suggests in born)
Good luck!
I made a study about Lamotrigine and Amisulpride in the net... And finally, with the small amount i saved, I encouraged my father to go to the psychiatrist next week. Hopefully got the answers I needed.
I'll give all of you an update, and thank you SO MUCH for the help. This is like consulting a doctor for free=)
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This may be the Serious Discussion Forum,
but you should never accept unsolicited advice from Strangers on the internet, and liken it to professional Psychiatric/Medical Advice.
Have him seek help from a licensed professional,
and do your best to enforce his/her treatment, while maintaining your position as a valued member of his support system.
That aside,
Good luck, I wish you and yours the best.
but you should never accept unsolicited advice from Strangers on the internet, and liken it to professional Psychiatric/Medical Advice.
Have him seek help from a licensed professional,
and do your best to enforce his/her treatment, while maintaining your position as a valued member of his support system.
That aside,
Good luck, I wish you and yours the best.
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Lollikittie wrote...
This may be the Serious Discussion Forum,but you should never accept unsolicited advice from Strangers on the internet, and liken it to professional Psychiatric/Medical Advice.
.
Its not like that. Im just merely asking opinions so that
I can do something. "Its like consulting a doctor for free" <--- is nothing but a simple joke used to express my gratitude and appreciation...
.
But other than that, thank you for reminding me on not to easily trust.
These guys sure knows a lot, and they really managed to help.
=)
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Chronus14 wrote...
Its not like that. Im just merely asking opinions so that
I can do something. "Its like consulting a doctor for free" <--- is nothing but a simple joke used to express my gratitude and appreciation...
.
But other than that, thank you for reminding me on not to easily trust.
These guys sure knows a lot, and they really managed to help.
=)
Heavy burdens shouldn't be handled lightly, you know?
That's all. n-n
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Lollikittie wrote...
Chronus14 wrote...
Its not like that. Im just merely asking opinions so that
I can do something. "Its like consulting a doctor for free" <--- is nothing but a simple joke used to express my gratitude and appreciation...
.
But other than that, thank you for reminding me on not to easily trust.
These guys sure knows a lot, and they really managed to help.
=)
Heavy burdens shouldn't be handled lightly, you know?
That's all. n-n
Well, that's sort of true.
.
But at the end of the day, we are to keep a smile on our face
and never forget to have fun.
even in the midst of battle..
.
(lols, emotional. hahahah... dunno if the disorder is hereditary)