Can Hard-Work beats Talent?

Couldn't the ability to work hard be considered a talent?

Anyways, relating to your story about doing better than your cousin, I've always been the sort of person who makes good grades without studying a lot, but I also listen in class and tend to actually like the subject matter. It really helps that I learn best by listening and seeing; if I read something, I might not understand it, but if a person tells it to me, I'll get it. It's the opposite for a lot of people, who need to read it to understand it and can't just hear it. Others need to get hands-on and find real-world applications to learn something.

Though it never seemed like I worked hard, I still did. Paying attention in class means a lot, and spending time thinking about a subject is also working hard, even if you don't have a book in front of you.

Furthermore, people are usually talented in one area and untalented in another. I'm good with school-related stuff, but I absolutely suck when it comes to cars and anything related to cars. It's vice versa with a lot of people. Who's to say that the talent one person has for making good grades without studying is useful? After all, if you're talented at doing something useless, is it really talent?

Most of the replies in this thread have already brought up the point that hard work can indeed beat talent, especially if one, who is fortunate enough to be gifted with the latter, makes no effort to improve on his/her strengths.

In Porter's Competitive Advantage of Nations, a country which is blessed with plenty of natural resources may be be as advanced as one that does not possess any, especially if the former chooses to remain stagnant, not engaging in R&D or innovate.

The same can be said of individuals.



Hard-working, talented people may encounter days in which they are down on their luck too, a factor we must exploit if we are going up against them. :D

I look at things at a different angle. 'Talent', as it is often defined, does not exist. Rather the perception of 'talent' is created by a set of circumstances that makes a person appear to be able to do more with less work. People do have certain 'abilities' given to them by genetics, and these 'abilities', in SRPG terms, act as the basic aptitudes of a person. A person naturally wants to be good at something, so they usually turn to either their strongest attribute or what they most enjoy. Differences in abilities manifest themselves quickly. People are then lead to believe that your current abilities were inborn because they are unaware of how much work you put into it. It's also worth noting that people with 'high level' skills are likely to have equal aptitudes, which means that hard work makes all the difference.

Well, that's how it is in my experience anyway.

though im being slightly off topic here, i believe passion beats both talent and hard work. You may be talented or hardworking at this particular thing, but if you do not have the passion for it, you will not fare as well as those with the passion. Passion brings forth the emulation of talent AND it automatically brings out hard work as well. The stronger your passion is for something, the greater volumes of talent and hardwork you invoke.

At least, that is what i have discovered about myself from self-reflection. Other people may be different, but i believe it goes for everyone.

Also, for the comparison of your cousin, thats not a real comparison. And as i have stated before, talent is nothing but a pre-set mindset.

In the long run, hard work will always beat talent. Talent, generally, boasts a sense of complacency, a comfortableness with where one is and reduces the drive to excel. Hard work, on the other hand, fosters drive, a willingness to push yourself beyond what you believe you are capable of. Long after talent has run out, hard work will keep pushing until it's shoving you into your grave. Good times

This one is the right opinion of me~

You admit that yourself, by this I'm sure you already read all of our replies here.

the point is: Reality is a bitch that you can't face just with talent alone.

I am unsure of what context the OP meant. For one moment he's talking about MTG and then he's talking about his height and power(?), then destroying "all chair and desk" in his classroom and then beating someone at academics. Somehow I have a feeling that this post was made so that someone could tell everyone that he's "talented" at many things.



In general: Hard work can overcome pure talent. However pure talent alone can never surpass hard work.

If you watch MMA (UFC, K-1 etc) and the pre-fight training the competitors go through you would know that a talented fighter who neglects his training would be defeated by someone of less talent but who worked his ass off training for a fight. It doesn't matter how talented you are but in that category, if you don't work hard you'll get your ass handed to you by someone less talented but more dedicated.

I think it's all just some kind of destiny.

Not just talented. Like a tall boy can beat a small boy in Basketball Battle. But of course The tall boy can't win if he don't try to learn how to play basketball.

So, it's all about learn, train abit, win.

Am I right?

Onime nailed it IMO.

Call it passion, zeal, right mindset or whatever. A raw talent remains nothing but wasted potential if you're not into something. Hard workers on the other hand are destined to burn out sooner or later if they rely on nothing but endurance. People who usually stand out in the world are those who found one thing (sometimes more) that appeals to them and decided to master it (with or without talent).

Well for most cases; you still need sum effort to buff up that talent

passion combined with hard work should be able to beat talent

People are usually optimistic by nature.

Besides - this ain't about bing born into a profession. It's about potential and ability to master something. Very few activities out there (especially money-earning) requiring raw talent only. You usually need to learn stuff/gain experience either way and here's where the hard work kicks in. Besides, even the 'talented' (no sarcasm/ I simply have no way of measuring anyone's talent) people in this topic admitted they're lazy and I think this is indeed a common occurrence. Makes hard workers at least competitive IMO.

How many people are "born into" a profession? What does that even mean? A carpenter teaches his son carpentry? That's not necessarily talent; it's being taught a skill from a very young age and being forced to work hard for a long time.

you havent been reading our replies ;P thats why you're surprised.

Exactly how many Royals do you know?



I agree. This seems like very poor wording to me.

There is no such thing as born talent or pure talent. You get talent if you have have hard work and concentration attitude. If you cant beat someone then train. If you cant accomplish something just try and try. Do what Thomas Edison Do He is just a poor kid but he Invented a Light Bulb in 1000 try