Controlling a Society; Behind the Curtain
What is the essential tool for controlling a society?
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Kezutah wrote...
With intelligence, you can breed trust...
Very true.
However... is it essential to have intelligence ( information ) to create trust?
If you have trust... can't you create your own intelligence?
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Cinia Pacifica
Ojou-sama Writer
[color=red][b]I voted fear. Yes, FPOD convinced me, and I didn't have anything to vote on anyway, lol.
People are too afraid of not having a leader and not having someone "leading" them.
People are too afraid of not having a leader and not having someone "leading" them.
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Buruneko wrote...
Kezutah wrote...
With intelligence, you can breed trust...
Very true.
However... is it essential to have intelligence ( information ) to create trust?
If you have trust... can't you create your own intelligence?
True, you can create your own intelligence, but then it wouldn't be YOU controlling the society anymore. The place will be taken over by that intelligence because you were not smart enough to stop them (sooner or later), and you will be left with nothing.
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Kezutah wrote...
Buruneko wrote...
Kezutah wrote...
With intelligence, you can breed trust...
Very true.
However... is it essential to have intelligence ( information ) to create trust?
If you have trust... can't you create your own intelligence?
True, you can create your own intelligence, but then it wouldn't be YOU controlling the society anymore. The place will be taken over by that intelligence because you were not smart enough to stop them (sooner or later), and you will be left with nothing.
We seem to have different def. of intelligence.
It was assumed that intelligence is simply knowledge - information.
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Buruneko wrote...
Kezutah wrote...
Buruneko wrote...
Kezutah wrote...
With intelligence, you can breed trust...
Very true.
However... is it essential to have intelligence ( information ) to create trust?
If you have trust... can't you create your own intelligence?
True, you can create your own intelligence, but then it wouldn't be YOU controlling the society anymore. The place will be taken over by that intelligence because you were not smart enough to stop them (sooner or later), and you will be left with nothing.
We seem to have different def. of intelligence.
It was assumed that intelligence is simply knowledge - information.
Ah, I believe so. But my question is, is the person, whomever "you" are supposed to be, smart enough to use this information?
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Kezutah wrote...
Buruneko wrote...
Kezutah wrote...
Buruneko wrote...
Kezutah wrote...
With intelligence, you can breed trust...
Very true.
However... is it essential to have intelligence ( information ) to create trust?
If you have trust... can't you create your own intelligence?
True, you can create your own intelligence, but then it wouldn't be YOU controlling the society anymore. The place will be taken over by that intelligence because you were not smart enough to stop them (sooner or later), and you will be left with nothing.
We seem to have different def. of intelligence.
It was assumed that intelligence is simply knowledge - information.
Ah, I believe so. But my question is, is the person, whomever "you" are supposed to be, smart enough to use this information?
I do not know... what is the def. of being "smart enough" ?
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Enough with the quoting. My definition of being smart enough, is simply that. Do you have the capability to sucessfully use the information that you have to control a society?
Information is always key in winning in any battle.
Information is always key in winning in any battle.
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Kezutah wrote...
Enough with the quoting. My definition of being smart enough, is simply that. Do you have the capability to sucessfully use the information that you have to control a society?Information is always key in winning in any battle.
Sorry for quoting but...
No i may not.
In essence, by this answer...you and i successfully proven that just having knowledge is not enough for a controlling a society.
The problem is, your definition: of intelligence or " being capable " is essentially stating:
to be able to control a society it is essential that you must be "capable" to do so.
Which is a... well you know what i mean.
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That was my definition of smart enough, not my definition of intelligence. And this goes by YOUR definition of intelligence, not the general perception people here that have voted for intelligence seems to have.
On a side note, ALL men have the CAPABAILITY of control a society. Just not sucessfully.
On a side note, ALL men have the CAPABAILITY of control a society. Just not sucessfully.
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Kezutah wrote...
That was my definition of smart enough, not my definition of intelligence. And this goes by YOUR definition of intelligence, not the general perception people here that have voted for intelligence seems to have.On a side note, ALL men have the CAPABAILITY of control a society. Just not sucessfully.
-_-
*sigh*
First: please read the header, it was stated quite obviously.
Second: yes, you are right intelligence wasn't a good word to begin with.
Third: I'm capable to do ( blank ), can you disprove it?
Forth: ...what about women?
Fifth: this was fun
Sixth: i'm going to bed
Seventh: ...and good night
Cheers.
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Buruneko wrote...
First: please read the header, it was stated quite obviously.
Second: yes, you are right intelligence wasn't a good word to begin with.
Third: I'm capable to do ( blank ), can you disprove it?
Forth: ...what about women?
Fifth: this was fun
Sixth: i'm going to bed
Seventh: ...and good night
Cheers.
First: What?
Second: Yes, it wasn't
Third: I said people DO have the capability to do something, where are you going with this?
Fourth: Men as in humans
Fifth: Quite.
Sixth: So am I
Seventh: Don't let the bed bugs bite!
Cheers
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I vOte intelligence, because I feel that if you are smart about it, and good for your society, you dont NEED the other things.
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Intelligence for me. A government cunning enough can earn the trust of the people, be it the military or the working class, and so long as it can keep said trust, it can easily achieve greater power and wealth.
Of course, money plays a huge role as well, as there exist no such thing as a government without corruption, and fear can be useful as well, if properly used.
The problem of nations ruled by fear is that their regimes MUST keep absolute power at all times and at all costs, even if this means state terrorism (Syria, anyone?). The moment this absolute power falters and fear is overcome by the people, we are nearing revolution (then again, there are exceptions, just look at North Korea).
Of course, money plays a huge role as well, as there exist no such thing as a government without corruption, and fear can be useful as well, if properly used.
The problem of nations ruled by fear is that their regimes MUST keep absolute power at all times and at all costs, even if this means state terrorism (Syria, anyone?). The moment this absolute power falters and fear is overcome by the people, we are nearing revolution (then again, there are exceptions, just look at North Korea).