Hardest Langauge To Learn?
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im learning japanese right now. reading and writing hiragana and katakana is not a problem at all but is a different story when it comes to listening, writing, and speaking.
for ex.
if you wanna say "i have kids", the grammar would be "kodomo ga IMASU"
if you wanna say "i have a pencil", grammar would be "enpitsu ga ARIMASU"
imasu is for living objects while arimasu is used for non-living objects
for ex.
if you wanna say "i have kids", the grammar would be "kodomo ga IMASU"
if you wanna say "i have a pencil", grammar would be "enpitsu ga ARIMASU"
imasu is for living objects while arimasu is used for non-living objects
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4 of it
1st(2nd hardest):japanese ( because i don't have any motivation to learn it and nobody teach me
2nd(3rd):Russian (hell with it)
3rd(4th):English (i'm too lazy to learn it)
4th:Korean (it's a little easy for me because i was born in Korea but now i forgot some of it and i can't find a people who can teach me korean in Indonesia)
5(the hardest one)Bahasa Sunda (it's a native language of people in my region (jawa barat))
1st(2nd hardest):japanese ( because i don't have any motivation to learn it and nobody teach me
2nd(3rd):Russian (hell with it)
3rd(4th):English (i'm too lazy to learn it)
4th:Korean (it's a little easy for me because i was born in Korea but now i forgot some of it and i can't find a people who can teach me korean in Indonesia)
5(the hardest one)Bahasa Sunda (it's a native language of people in my region (jawa barat))
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Hakker wrote...
You can't count words as it has no use to count them, because different nations use different forms to count them. for instance one country record serious and seriously as one word but with a different compound while another country says it are two words. Also you say 500k is much yet some people say english has 400K words. Others go as far as nearly 850K and others say 100K. Also mentioning how many words an average person knows varies from 30K to about 100K see the huge amount of differences.Therefor saying chinese is hard based on facts alone is ridiculous. Chinese itself isn't so difficult as many would think the problem with chinese is that each province has their own dialect and these differences are larger than for instance a texan speaking to a new yorker ;)
What I see around me people consider dutch a hard language as well but that has more to do with the sentence building than the words itself. That and the fact that we have numerous words you write the same that have completely different meanings.
Dutch generally consider french a hard language to learn since it sentence structure differ so much from dutch, yet spanish is considered easier. The difficulty of a language has more to do with someones native tongue than the language you want to learn. if your own language has more similarities with the language you want to learn it will make translating it thus absorbing it easier then when it has few similarities.
One: There really isn't a proper way to count words across languages and so one would have to make do with generalisations, and that is what those in charge of cataloging these languages try to do. It would be extremely time-consuming and inefficient to include every single exception and factor when all you need is an overall answer.
Two: Those who have said that Chinese is hard haven't just been putting forth that there are a large amount of words; rather, they have a large number of definitons, and with those more pronunciations. It's also not hard to "guestimate" the meaning or pronunciation of most words in languages with roots in Latin, whereas in Chinese, it's a lot harder.
It's not the range of words a person knows that matters, since many factors could be taken into consideration e.g age of population, education, health problems etc, but rather what the average person would know, since it is less biased and more likely to give a more accurate result and comparison.
Another point to bring up is the example of a New Yorker speaking to a Texan. What you have there is a difference in accent and perhaps a choice of words, but one would be able to have a conversation. A better one might be someone who learnt Oxford English talking to say, someone who learnt from reading descriptions off food packaging. In Chinese, trying to communicate with someone who speaks a different dialect can be near impossible, take for example, Mandarin and Cantonese, the most common "dialects". Mandarin is a stricter language, and uses only four main tones, while Cantonese is more informal, and uses nine main tones. Pronunciation is of course extremely different, as well as choices in vocabulary and even grammatical structures are quite different. The only thing that is common to all dialects is the writing sytem, but even then different words are created by each region and as one cannot guess characters in Chinese, it complicates things further.
Another example would be that university level professors could probably tell you the correct spelling, root, definition and use of just about any word in, say, Dutch, but they can't tell you how to write all three characters for the verb "to sneeze" in Chinese. In a bid to make the language easier, China introduced a simplified system of writing, and even the Taiwanese had to create an alphabet similar to hiragana and katakana in Japanese to help literacy rates, whereas one does not see simplifications of spelling being called for in Western languages by governments, the representatives of the countries' populations.
Of course, it is all relative to what language one has learnt first and/or is most familiar with, as similarities will help, but you cannot deny the fact that it is harder to learn certain languages.
TL;DR - Chinese is definitely one of the hardest languages to learn, if not the hardest, and although similarities do make it easier for someone to learn related languages, Japanese would be the closest thing to Chinese (as Korean barely makes use of any Chinese characters in modern day use), and even then it's not easy to start from there.
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For me, french and german just can't keep myself awake learning them.
For the ones I learn, I'd say chinese (it's significantly harder than japanese in my opinion though I'm much more fluent in all areas of chinese compared to japanese).
Arabic looks incredibly hard though, never tried learning it.
For the ones I learn, I'd say chinese (it's significantly harder than japanese in my opinion though I'm much more fluent in all areas of chinese compared to japanese).
Arabic looks incredibly hard though, never tried learning it.
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Of all the Languages I have actually have tried or have been forced to learn, Arabic takes the cake of being the hardest language for me. Looking over the fact I couldn't bring myself to stay awake for even 5 minutes during the classes, I just can't grasp its grammar and just not interested in understanding it anyway.
I'm currently taking lessons on Japanese Language and things are looking up for me
I'm currently taking lessons on Japanese Language and things are looking up for me
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The further from central or east Europe the harder for me. My native language is Polish. German and English aren't a problem. Russian and similar languages share much in common with my own so I manage. But when I tried to learn Swedish or Japanese it was like hitting a wall ... :)
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I think some meso-american languange that only handful peoples speak thesedays. would categorize that.
But still speaking languange and not so called dead languange: I think Basque would be pretty hard if I would have to choose one with also grammatics and letters instead just words. Pygmi languange is hard too, as they use whisles, throat sounds and tongue tapping instead words.
Japanese is pretty easy if you need only to learn speak it. But then I am finnish and we share similar charasterics with japanese, as bi-syllable construction and we have more than 200 identical words ( by pronounciation ) with japanese peoples, even their meaning is different.
tora, tori, hinata, nami etc are said exact sameway in Finnsih and in Japanese, while their meaning is different. So japanese is not hard. Romanji would be quite easy for me to learn (japanese with latin alphabets ) Kanji's would take time...
But then that is just me...
But still speaking languange and not so called dead languange: I think Basque would be pretty hard if I would have to choose one with also grammatics and letters instead just words. Pygmi languange is hard too, as they use whisles, throat sounds and tongue tapping instead words.
Japanese is pretty easy if you need only to learn speak it. But then I am finnish and we share similar charasterics with japanese, as bi-syllable construction and we have more than 200 identical words ( by pronounciation ) with japanese peoples, even their meaning is different.
tora, tori, hinata, nami etc are said exact sameway in Finnsih and in Japanese, while their meaning is different. So japanese is not hard. Romanji would be quite easy for me to learn (japanese with latin alphabets ) Kanji's would take time...
But then that is just me...
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Even though we all speak it here, the majority of the earths populace is non-english speaking (every other language) and since english has the same word spelled the same way with two differnt meanings altogeher (ex: ove as in the bird. and dove as in he dove or the baseball) and similar pronounciations for different words (Like: Hear, Hair, Hare and Here (Honestly idk why people say here and hair the same way) and their, there and they're) It gets confusing for them... also silent letters in words (like:Phone and Knife...) must confuse the shi out of people... That's my arguement.
And then there is engrish... >:3
And then there is engrish... >:3
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Gin Katana wrote...
It's weird but in all the other countries they say English is the hardestEnglish is very difficult unless you grew up learning it. Basically, English is like the United States measurement system: It's too complicated for its own good.
Like Prowl said, English has a lot of homographs (words that are spelled the same but have different meanings) and homophones (words that sound the same but mean different things and are spelled differently) and other crazy things. Check this out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homonym#Related_terms
Homographs, homophones, heteronyms, homonyms, polysemes, and capitonyms. Confusing as hell.
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I believe that the hardest language to learn is English. It has so many rules and exceptions that some conflict with others. Such as, I before E except after C, and in some words like neighbor and weigh.
This is my opinion.
EDIT: And words that are similar but have different plurals or no plurals.
Goose to Geese
Moose to Moose
Ox to Oxen
Box to Boxes
Deer to Deer
Fish to Fish
Mouse to Mice
House to Houses
This is my opinion.
EDIT: And words that are similar but have different plurals or no plurals.
Goose to Geese
Moose to Moose
Ox to Oxen
Box to Boxes
Deer to Deer
Fish to Fish
Mouse to Mice
House to Houses
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...True but the ones who have less trouble learning any language are little kids because like me when I was little to learn English was easy all I did was watch TV
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Gin Katana wrote...
...True but the ones who have less trouble learning any language are little kids because like me when I was little to learn English was easy all I did was watch TVLittle kids always have an easy time learning a language. Any language, in fact. It's so much easier for little kids to learn languages than it is for adults that foreign languages should be mandatory in elementary school. But only if the kid gets to choose the language. None of this forcing Spanish and only Spanish on the kids.
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ShaggyJebus wrote...
Gin Katana wrote...
...True but the ones who have less trouble learning any language are little kids because like me when I was little to learn English was easy all I did was watch TVLittle kids always have an easy time learning a language. Any language, in fact. It's so much easier for little kids to learn languages than it is for adults that foreign languages should be mandatory in elementary school. But only if the kid gets to choose the language. None of this forcing Spanish and only Spanish on the kids.
Have to agree, I'm happy to be on a solid foundation with one eastern and one western language under my belt before I was in high school. This combo also makes learning most common languages (japanese, german, french etc.) much easier as they bear significant resemblance to each other (japanese and chinese for example).
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i think its not really the languages themselves, but rather how hard it is for someone to learn it. its hard for some people to learn english, but then again they can learn japanese in less than a month. i think it depends really on who is trying to learn what. for me learning japanese feels like trying to learn the english language again, but spanish is like the easiest language i am learning right now. some people would say different, but i think is depends on the learner, and the language. not all people are the same, so its hard to judge which language would be hard for EVERYONE. but if i had to choose then i would say probably russian, because the written language is pretty funny looking to me. i just dont understand it at all.
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American... now i say american and not english because they are to similar but different dialects that are used.
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nzephier wrote...
i think its not really the languages themselves, but rather how hard it is for someone to learn it. its hard for some people to learn english, but then again they can learn japanese in less than a month. i think it depends really on who is trying to learn what. for me learning japanese feels like trying to learn the english language again, but spanish is like the easiest language i am learning right now. some people would say different, but i think is depends on the learner, and the language. not all people are the same, so its hard to judge which language would be hard for EVERYONE. but if i had to choose then i would say probably russian, because the written language is pretty funny looking to me. i just dont understand it at all.I definitely have to agree. People learn differently, and some things are easier for some people to learn. For example, some people learn by hearing, and some by reading; some people can do math well, and others can do language well. When a person tries to learn a language, he brings all of that with him.
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Swedish is nearly impossible to me. But maybe that's only because I'm not motivated to learn it.. But I have to, damn it, why did I born into a country with two languages. D:
I've heard from many people that finnish is pretty difficult to english-speaking people, but I can't say my own opinion about that, I learnt to speak finnish when I was less than one year old. :'D
I guess it just depends on many things, like what is your native language and stuff like that.
I've heard from many people that finnish is pretty difficult to english-speaking people, but I can't say my own opinion about that, I learnt to speak finnish when I was less than one year old. :'D
I guess it just depends on many things, like what is your native language and stuff like that.