hentai ban, it might acutally happen
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People of hentai, eroge, and even fakku.
I am not trying to be a douche/asshole/dickmunch/or scare you
i'm only suggesting precautions and reponses
It seems our fear has possibly been realized.
Japan has taken arrest of people whom have tried to share loli and the Rapelay game on the internet.
The Internet people.
This is very grave for ANYONE that plans on sharing loli or hentai games on the forums, much less any hentai in general.
What i said before in the previous topic i made (look in the incoherent blabbing section, it got moved to there)
is what i say now. The politicians have persecuted us and anyone that so much as even heard of hentai, they have caused us to suspect of what to happen, many of you believed that the internet is vast, too vast for anyone to contain. As much as i believe it is true, in case you forget, technologies are advancing, (case in point, the possibility of hentai being banned in an attempt is much more potent.)
From what i assume, it will be only be a matter of time before hentai and even porn will be compromised.
I ask of you
-the otakus and perverts: be wary and very careful, if two guys got caught sharing hentai on the internet, then it is also possible that any of us, especially those who post in the user upload section can be caught
-the politicans and movement groups: Must you dwadle over such a thing? Hentai is two basic things when looked at the very core of it. it's only drawings/animations and porn. even if the girl being raped looks underage, that doesnt mean that the character itself will be on that age. There could be a girl that looks like a 12-8 year old and her age could actually be that of a teenager or even that of mid-age.
Also, this isn't a nesscessary issue that people like you should try and wipe out forever. You could be using that power to actually stop child molestation and actual raping, as well as trying to bring democracy into other issues. So please, give us a break. you may think and believe that you are changing the world for a good cause, but you are also affecting billions of others who have long been content with 2-D sexual content, compromise and resort to worse and more drastic measures. As one who wishes for peace, hopefully you all do not wish to cast people into despair. if so, then at least one conflict will seem inevitable, be it on the internet or outside.
-Agnes Chan: If you see those who jack off to cartoonish girls having sex as evil, i understand that you see it as such. but are you not being a hypocrite? you yourself were once a bikini model and pop singer. YOU chose, if not were PAID to expose you skin and body/sing in front of people and cameras as entertainment for others. Hentai is no different in that sense despite it shows female characters having sexual intercourse. however vulgar and disgusting it seems, it is also natural, even rape is natural (not in the action of course, but in how parallel it is to consent sexual intercourse) You yourself said that "People who think of children's nudity as a tool don't need freedom of expression.". I understand your statement as you wish to end child molestation. But you are also including an entire culture that did not have anything to do with it. If you are aware if this and cannot in the very least consider going only for the actual Child rapists, and still believe that hentai is nothing but evil. Then, you are nothing but a coward that targets the weak, and ignorant bitch at that.
-the governemnt of Japan: simple, defend your part of the culture, but you should not desire anymore power than that, hopefully you know my reasons. no matter how cruel and vulgar hentai is, you cannot hide the fact that is part of your history in japan.
EDIT: well those two guys i mentioned in the beginning coulda been a pedophile and a rapist
I am not trying to be a douche/asshole/dickmunch/or scare you
i'm only suggesting precautions and reponses
It seems our fear has possibly been realized.
Japan has taken arrest of people whom have tried to share loli and the Rapelay game on the internet.
The Internet people.
This is very grave for ANYONE that plans on sharing loli or hentai games on the forums, much less any hentai in general.
What i said before in the previous topic i made (look in the incoherent blabbing section, it got moved to there)
is what i say now. The politicians have persecuted us and anyone that so much as even heard of hentai, they have caused us to suspect of what to happen, many of you believed that the internet is vast, too vast for anyone to contain. As much as i believe it is true, in case you forget, technologies are advancing, (case in point, the possibility of hentai being banned in an attempt is much more potent.)
From what i assume, it will be only be a matter of time before hentai and even porn will be compromised.
I ask of you
-the otakus and perverts: be wary and very careful, if two guys got caught sharing hentai on the internet, then it is also possible that any of us, especially those who post in the user upload section can be caught
-the politicans and movement groups: Must you dwadle over such a thing? Hentai is two basic things when looked at the very core of it. it's only drawings/animations and porn. even if the girl being raped looks underage, that doesnt mean that the character itself will be on that age. There could be a girl that looks like a 12-8 year old and her age could actually be that of a teenager or even that of mid-age.
Also, this isn't a nesscessary issue that people like you should try and wipe out forever. You could be using that power to actually stop child molestation and actual raping, as well as trying to bring democracy into other issues. So please, give us a break. you may think and believe that you are changing the world for a good cause, but you are also affecting billions of others who have long been content with 2-D sexual content, compromise and resort to worse and more drastic measures. As one who wishes for peace, hopefully you all do not wish to cast people into despair. if so, then at least one conflict will seem inevitable, be it on the internet or outside.
-Agnes Chan: If you see those who jack off to cartoonish girls having sex as evil, i understand that you see it as such. but are you not being a hypocrite? you yourself were once a bikini model and pop singer. YOU chose, if not were PAID to expose you skin and body/sing in front of people and cameras as entertainment for others. Hentai is no different in that sense despite it shows female characters having sexual intercourse. however vulgar and disgusting it seems, it is also natural, even rape is natural (not in the action of course, but in how parallel it is to consent sexual intercourse) You yourself said that "People who think of children's nudity as a tool don't need freedom of expression.". I understand your statement as you wish to end child molestation. But you are also including an entire culture that did not have anything to do with it. If you are aware if this and cannot in the very least consider going only for the actual Child rapists, and still believe that hentai is nothing but evil. Then, you are nothing but a coward that targets the weak, and ignorant bitch at that.
-the governemnt of Japan: simple, defend your part of the culture, but you should not desire anymore power than that, hopefully you know my reasons. no matter how cruel and vulgar hentai is, you cannot hide the fact that is part of your history in japan.
EDIT: well those two guys i mentioned in the beginning coulda been a pedophile and a rapist
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Dude I agree with you in that it's not right to take Hentai away and say "Loli/ Rape Hentai is Just as bad as Child porn." It's Not at all... and one question, Where were these two men from? I figure Japan But I could be wrong.
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animepimp92 wrote...
Dude I agree with you in that it's not right to take Hentai away and say "Loli/ Rape Hentai is Just as bad as Child porn." It's Not at all... and one question, Where were these two men from? I figure Japan But I could be wrong.I know one of them is japanese, as for the rapelay guy, it could be anyone (or i just forgot)
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(*)in regards to hentai being baned, it probably will never happen.
firstly, hentai is part of japans historical heritage.
As a people their culture (particularly just before the waring states period) is strongly sexual.Their is all so entire poems written about the sexual appeal of a womans neck, or feet. Their where (and in some cases still are) sects of Confucians and taoists in japan the believed that the path to enlightenment was through making their lovers orgasm. this (to me) show a culture that dose not fear sex.
(weather or not they will stray from this remains to be seen.)
secondly, some of the oldest Japaneses wood cuts are hentai.
it is an art. when it was first pioneered it was a respected art.
and some hentai is still art. no Japaneses person would ever relent their grate art history (which is one of the richest in the world, next to Italy), just as we Americans will never relent transcendentalism. it is part of us.
hentai will die when their culture dies,which i believe will never die. it is too rich, "it will wane and wax but it will be back". the risk of a ban is marginal.
*my two cents.
do not fear my friend.
firstly, hentai is part of japans historical heritage.
As a people their culture (particularly just before the waring states period) is strongly sexual.Their is all so entire poems written about the sexual appeal of a womans neck, or feet. Their where (and in some cases still are) sects of Confucians and taoists in japan the believed that the path to enlightenment was through making their lovers orgasm. this (to me) show a culture that dose not fear sex.
(weather or not they will stray from this remains to be seen.)
secondly, some of the oldest Japaneses wood cuts are hentai.
it is an art. when it was first pioneered it was a respected art.
and some hentai is still art. no Japaneses person would ever relent their grate art history (which is one of the richest in the world, next to Italy), just as we Americans will never relent transcendentalism. it is part of us.
hentai will die when their culture dies,which i believe will never die. it is too rich, "it will wane and wax but it will be back". the risk of a ban is marginal.
*my two cents.
do not fear my friend.
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All cultures can trace back to something that seems unnormally sexual for it's time. But for Japan, it's heritage isn't more sex filled then any other culture if you don't count recent hentai. Actually, during the Imperialistic period, absolutely all porn was banned.
That is probably why Japan has so much porn now. In every culture, the more conserative it was, the more radical it's new ideas are. Take the dress of women in America. There skirts got shorter and shorter, but then in the 1950s, their clothes got more conserative. BUT because of that, in the 60s almost nobody wore skirts at all anymore, and women were very liberal with their dress.
That is probably why Japan has so much porn now. In every culture, the more conserative it was, the more radical it's new ideas are. Take the dress of women in America. There skirts got shorter and shorter, but then in the 1950s, their clothes got more conserative. BUT because of that, in the 60s almost nobody wore skirts at all anymore, and women were very liberal with their dress.
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razama wrote...
All cultures can trace back to something that seems unnormally sexual for it's time. But for Japan, it's heritage isn't more sex filled then any other culture if you don't count recent hentai. Actually, during the Imperialistic period, absolutely all porn was banned.That is probably why Japan has so much porn now. In every culture, the more conserative it was, the more radical it's new ideas are. Take the dress of women in America. There skirts got shorter and shorter, but then in the 1950s, their clothes got more conserative. BUT because of that, in the 60s almost nobody wore skirts at all anymore, and women were very liberal with their dress.
hmm good point my friend.
still i fell particularly after what you said, hentia may be overly controlled at times but it will never completely fade.
it will all ways find a way back by culture.
very smart response on your part. i did not think of the imperial period.
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greenzspy wrote...
razama wrote...
All cultures can trace back to something that seems unnormally sexual for it's time. But for Japan, it's heritage isn't more sex filled then any other culture if you don't count recent hentai. Actually, during the Imperialistic period, absolutely all porn was banned.That is probably why Japan has so much porn now. In every culture, the more conserative it was, the more radical it's new ideas are. Take the dress of women in America. There skirts got shorter and shorter, but then in the 1950s, their clothes got more conserative. BUT because of that, in the 60s almost nobody wore skirts at all anymore, and women were very liberal with their dress.
hmm good point my friend.
still i fell particularly after what you said, hentia may be overly controlled at times but it will never completely fade.
it will all ways find a way back by culture.
very smart response on your part. i did not think of the imperial period.
Indeed

I too think that while under attack at times, the media of hentai will ever be lost.
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If they make it all illegal, I will fight the dark fight and help make it available to people freely.
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Space Cowboy wrote...
If they make it all illegal, I will fight the dark fight and help make it available to people freely.but my friend....WE ARE THE DARK SIDE BWA HA HA HA!
sorry. *resuming serious mode*
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I think hentai wont be banned, it's more like loli and rape genre that they were cautions about, put it simple; for reduce sexual crime against innocent people.
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azchtein wrote...
I think hentai wont be banned, it's more like loli and rape genre that they were cautions about, put it simple; for reduce sexual crime against innocent people.Only problem is that no country has ever been able to link lolicon to an increase in child molestation. They have nothing to back up their claims.
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FlamehellOtaku1010 wrote...
So please, give us a break. you may think and believe that you are changing the world for a good cause, but you are also affecting billions of others who have long been content with 2-D sexual content, compromise and resort to worse and more drastic measures. It might not be a good idea to say it like "if you take away this stuff a bunch of pedophiliacs will go out on raping sprees.." I don't think that's true. I'd like to think almost no person, even guros, would try to replicate the stuff they read...
reassure me?
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I don't think their is really evidence for ether argument.
Not for lack of ideas but due to lack of studies.
Their are rumors of one in the works though. According to dubious sources.
But as to how such an experiment would take place is beyond me.
We may never know if lolis encourage or discourage sex crimes.
Not for lack of ideas but due to lack of studies.
Their are rumors of one in the works though. According to dubious sources.
But as to how such an experiment would take place is beyond me.
We may never know if lolis encourage or discourage sex crimes.
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ProtectallAnime92
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Um,about those two guys you were talking about.You mean the four guys in Japan who got arrested for having lolicon on a website?
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/09/first-arrests-over-loli-links/
These two guys from Japan posted loli links on a website and got arrested for it.Then the two webmasters got arrested for not removing the material.So far,these are the first arrests in Japan regarding lolicon.
Anyways,I agree that NO anime,no matter its genre,shouldnt be banned.Anime will never be banned!
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/16/agnes-chan-well-be-back-you-damn-lolicon/
Anyways,Agnes Chan lost.She was defeated because the session deciding the "Lolicon Ban" ran out of time and couldnt decide.So.........................................
GOOOOOOOOOOOO LOLICON!WE WON!
But sadly,Agnes said she will be back.
But we will fight back.
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/09/first-arrests-over-loli-links/
These two guys from Japan posted loli links on a website and got arrested for it.Then the two webmasters got arrested for not removing the material.So far,these are the first arrests in Japan regarding lolicon.
Anyways,I agree that NO anime,no matter its genre,shouldnt be banned.Anime will never be banned!
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/16/agnes-chan-well-be-back-you-damn-lolicon/
Anyways,Agnes Chan lost.She was defeated because the session deciding the "Lolicon Ban" ran out of time and couldnt decide.So.........................................
GOOOOOOOOOOOO LOLICON!WE WON!
But sadly,Agnes said she will be back.
But we will fight back.
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ProtectallAnime92 wrote...
Um,about those two guys you were talking about.You mean the four guys in Japan who got arrested for having lolicon on a website?http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/09/first-arrests-over-loli-links/
These two guys from Japan posted loli links on a website and got arrested for it.Then the two webmasters got arrested for not removing the material.So far,these are the first arrests in Japan regarding lolicon.
Anyways,I agree that NO anime,no matter its genre,shouldnt be banned.Anime will never be banned!
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/16/agnes-chan-well-be-back-you-damn-lolicon/
Anyways,Agnes Chan lost.She was defeated because the session deciding the "Lolicon Ban" ran out of time and couldnt decide.So.........................................
GOOOOOOOOOOOO LOLICON!WE WON!
But sadly,Agnes said she will be back.
But we will fight back.
i dunno, after the last post they did, im starting to think sankaku complex is full of shit, but if it is true, then
Next agnes chan, go for against REAL rape NOT 2-D rape
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The reason why they aren't doing anything to Stop actual Rape and Child Molestation is because there isn't anything else (or so they think) that they can do. This is all they've thought of to do.
There probably is something else they can do, but they're just taking it out on the Lolicon and Rape games.
There probably is something else they can do, but they're just taking it out on the Lolicon and Rape games.
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link1438 wrote...
The reason why they aren't doing anything to Stop actual Rape and Child Molestation is because there isn't anything else (or so they think) that they can do. This is all they've thought of to do. There probably is something else they can do, but they're just taking it out on the Lolicon and Rape games.
the funny thing is that's real lame of them to take it out on games, i cant believe that excuse was proven to be useful for them
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Well, this will be a continuous thing every year I'm afraid. I'm more worried now about the Diet just being tired of listening to their bullshit and agree to a ban just to shut them up. -_-
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ProtectallAnime92
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No anime shall be banned,no matter what.If we dont stand up for the weak,what does that say about us?Anime and history has taught us to be understanding,compromising,and tolerant.To care for those who wouldnt care for us so they can understand.
"Those with power!Fear me!Those without power!Seek me!"
Who said that quote?Lelouch vi Britannia,a man who understood that no matter where you come from,as long as you can do your job.There is no problem.We must destroy the stereotype that anime fans are loners and rejects,and start standing up for anime and ourselves.No more...No more...If there was a time to stop watching anime.Now is the time,so anime can survive.
"Those with power!Fear me!Those without power!Seek me!"
Who said that quote?Lelouch vi Britannia,a man who understood that no matter where you come from,as long as you can do your job.There is no problem.We must destroy the stereotype that anime fans are loners and rejects,and start standing up for anime and ourselves.No more...No more...If there was a time to stop watching anime.Now is the time,so anime can survive.