Is immortality worth our humanity?

Occasionally you'll see a sci-fi movie which promotes the idea that one day human technology will allow us to implant our brains within a computer. We would become immortal due to to the fact that we would no longer have a pysical body to grow old in and we could technically live forever.

Doing this could be the next step in human evolution but in doing so we would no longer be considered humans. Whats your opinion on this theoretical scenario and along with this idea, is it morally correct for humans to live forever?

Nothing lives forever: all machines eventually break down, biological or not.

We are already there. I saw a report about cybernetic eyes and shit.

The only thing I would ever do is have a translator stuck in my brain so I could communicate where ever I go.

Or a robotic wang. Whichever they invent first.

I don't believe that we will become immortal just by turning ourselves into cyborgs or complete robots like in Ghost in the Shell. Why? Because its physically impossible to transfer a human's consciousness into something man-made. It doesn't matter how many body parts you replace with machinery. Once all the biological parts of you die, all that will be left is an android that looks and acts like you.

[color=white]I do, however, believe that a person's conscious could come back in the form of another person, with no recollection of who they were beforehand, so i think this could work as well.[/color]

Some people think it's possible

So do these guys


I was thinkin more along the lines of the episode of Cowboy Bebop "Brain Scratch" where you wouldn't even have a body, your mind would just be somewhere in the "cloud."

I'm not against artificial body parts; they save lives. But I don't like the idea of turning our entire body into robots, it's just, well, unhuman.

At the moment, technologically it's impossible. I'm not sure if it's physically possible because I don't know much about the human brain so I won't give an uneducated opinion about it.

It's as they say, anything is possible. At least, provided you know how. And we don't. Maybe in a thousand years, but I still think it's a pipedream.

We gotta see where we end up with this. However, I have a strong dislike for any kind of cybernetics, from implants to full machine bodies in exchange for me being in a dormant state.

We have to be careful what is the next step in science, even though the discoveries are great to amazing, they can end up being the worst idea if something does go wrong.

Immortality is not worth it....
you live forever and ever and dont even notice your loved ones are gone and somewhere much better than this....
sure robot arms and legs and even one robotic eyeball wouldnt hurt....
but living forever is something I would not want in this world.... this is such a dumb question considering the fact that it implies from the fear of dying...
i didnt mean the one who asked it just I find it dumb in general

Im just going to post this because it's related:

https://www.fakku.net/viewtopic.php?t=62037

Where would you stand on the issue if (hypotheically) all your loved ones ageed to get this procedure and live forever. Im not saying your opinion on this question is wrong, I'm just curious.

The only reason I would want to do it is so I could see how humans would evolve and see how potentially great we could become, not soley because a fear of death. Though when it came down to it, I wouldn't do it because I wouldn't want to sacrafice what makes me a human.

first it's seem interesting mechanic body still with same human mind(?)with 1000 years time human sure could make something great we have so much time to do any kind experiment or humankind could find effective way to kill each other perhaps destroy the universe but I prefer human have limited time so I can enjoy every time of my life

I've actually seen something somewhere about immortality, but can't quite remember. Although I'm pretty sure the concept is touched upon multiple times in anime shows, and a few times in the TV show "Being Human". They usually find themselves complaining about losing loved ones and that in itself is enough to drive people to insanity. Never being able to die and eventually developing a fear of death, watching the people around you age and die, and watching the world around you carry on without you, is a frightening concept.

Real immortality is not something physical, the best you could hope for is extened longevity.

Immortality is literally:
"To live forever."

To live forever... An example of a real immortal is none other than Achilles.
To become immortal is to immortalize your name, your existence. And Achilles achieved that feat.

Achilles of that time, of that name, now lives on forever. Thus, he is figuratively and literally immortal.

What does morality have to do with any of this?

Definition (dictionary.com)

Moral: of, pertaining to, or concerned with the principles or rules of right conduct or the distinction between right and wrong; ethical

*Do you think it is right for a human to live forever?*
^ This is my question and how morals or "morality" relates to it.

I don't think there one single answer to this.

Some will probably say that going as far as to completely eliminate death from our lives is just interrupting the "natural order" a tad too far and will take away something from us.

On the other hand, mankind had always worked to surpass handicaps, difficulties, inconveniences. Death takes away our loved ones and cuts short the time of what we could do within this word. Thus, beating death would be the most human thing we could possibly do to ourselves, since we would surpass our greatest handicap.

Personally, If my loved one(s) could become immortal too, I think it's all good.
Well, and even if they do pass on, then at least I can keep honoring them by remembering them, and staying alive.

I mean, sure, writers tell us how bad immortality is, but thin about all the languages you could learn in that time! You could always make up for the time you spent on work or homework!

That, and I don't think we would be able to gain "complete" immortality. We could stop aging or influence of poisons and drugs, But I don't think we can stop someone from dying if his heart or brain is destroyed. But that has been said already I believe.

Why would becoming a cyborg mean you lose you humanity? Just because the casing that holds your soul changes doesn't mean your any less human. What makes a person isn't the physical body is it? Are you saying that the body is more important then the soul?

Some people might argue that its against nature and thus shouldn't even attempt to do such a thing. That it's going too far in our search for knowledge. My question is: "is that true?" I mean isn't learning, exploring and understanding the basic qualities of humanity? The thirst for new ideas and a better understanding of the universe? Wouldn't in that sense make this something quite natural? I see science as a form of evolution. Creating tools and items to help us, things based on adapting to what is needed right? Although it wouldn't be technically "natural-selection" does that really matter in the log run?

Originally I thought this thread was about immortality in general not just this possible form of it.

I would like it to be about that, if I could. I mean change the topic to Immortality the Idea and Thought of it.