No College for Me

Do not succumb to your demise. Think positive 'coz there are lots of good ways to earn money.

Sorry to hear that. Tried looking into possibly transferring to a cheaper place for now?

Excuse me for asking dear sir, but by chance may you share why you don't qualify for "Student Aid"?

To make this thread more fitting for Serious Discussion, how about we talk about money, college, the economy, etc.

I really feel for you. I've always been amazed at how the college system works. You need it to raise your chances of getting a job that pays well, college itself costs a lot of money. If you get student loans, then you can go, but you'll need to get that high-paying job soon after graduation, because it won't be long before they start asking for their money back. And while student loans are the best kinds of loans (the chances of them crippling you are much lower than a standard bank loan), it's still not free money, and it can take a long time to pay them off. I loath the idea of getting into major debt before I'm even 25. That's part of why I've been hesitant to go back to college and get a bachelor's degree. (I currently only have an associate's degree from a community college.)

As for the problems with employment, I don't know what we regular people can do. Maybe there's nothing we can do. We're at the mercy of the companies (and managers). You can look for weeks and never find a job, even a crappy one at a fast food place. Right now, I know more people that are on unemployment than ever before in my life. In fact, the number of individuals I know that are on unemployment right now is higher than all the people on unemployment I've ever known, combined. And it's not all their fault; they just can't find jobs.

Usually it's because you are too "rich" to get it, but don't have enough money to pay off your bills there. Shit actually happens, got the same case here.

I'm in the same situation and a cheaper place (read 'another college, closer to my home') is a way to go. Although they don't teach Japanese there, which I really wanted to study, along with my main subject.

Ah, thank you for answering my question. How ignorant of me. It seems such a..... paradox? Forgive my English. Is there perhaps a way to fix a problem such as this?

Decrease the cost of college, or just improve the quality of high school so that college will no longer be required to get a job.

The problem is that colleges and institutions of higher educations are BIG money makers. No academic "experts" are going to shoot themselves in the feet and lose the access to this good a deal.

Our education is still more or less free (as long as you don't study more than a year longer than the norm is)... and it still might be a problem... seriously. getting $400-$500/month (converted) to be there with average part-time pay about $3 is fucking hard, if you count in the fact that you have to learn and visit classes sometimes... and there are no better jobs, since all of them are taken by fuckers with better connections or some sort of paper saying they're better than you.

Funny that. I am thinking of going to the Sydney branch for the pâtisserie course. For the pâtisserie course it is AUD $25,000.00. If I wanted to do the full course (including chef) it is AUD $50,000.00.

Forgot about this in my original post... I no longer qualify for referral bonuses for doing this, but:
http://www.goarmy.com/
The money's good, and if you pick the right gig in the army, you might not even need to finish college to get a decent job afterwards.


And yet people keep being forced to go to college, its the ultimate carrot on a stick.

The worst part is that if you look at smaller countries or more specialized fields, even a basic BA or BS is no longer useful to get a job. Since college education are so much easier to acquire these days, it no longer acts as an easy way for lazy employers to sort through the list of applicants they get. Along with being essentially held at gunpoint to keep going in your education indebtedness, this also have the effect of raising the average age of people entering the workforce. On top of the fact that, lets face it, most college education won't do jack shit in preparing you for the work force, this college obsessed global culture is going to fuck a lot of people over in the coming years.

I can understand the feeling. I didn't go to college either. My parents made just a little too much for me to get any substantial aid, and I goofed around too much my Senior year where a lot of the really good scholarships slipped through my fingers.

I swore to myself I would go the next year, and after the year came and went I said I'll go next year for sure! That year went by and I still was nowhere near going to college since I didn't ( and still don't) have a job, and I refuse to pay college aid expenses for years and years to come.

I would still like to go someday, but as the years go by, the less and less I care and ever think I will end up going. Studying Economics has been a dream of mine since high school, but it just isn't within my grasp right now, and it may very well never be in my grasp.

Oh its not that bad. Mostly just for the first few weeks in Basic Training, after you get to AIT (where they train you for the actual job you signed up for) it gets to be like a college environment. Schoolhouse classes 9-5, break every hour, a hour for lunch, weekends and all federal holidays off, and you accumulate a month of vacation time a year. There are more jobs in the Army than kill or be killed, play your cards right and you won't even see a rifle except for 6 hours a year while working in an office setting the rest of the time.

Wait, wtf am I doing, ain't being paid to do the pitch anymore.


If you absolutely have to stop going to school full time, the last thing I have to say about this is that keep doing it part-time with community college of online-college courses while working if you can scrape up the money for courses here and there. Once you completely stop (like I have), it's damn difficult to start back up.

That, or take this chance to ditch college and get into the culinary field. Move back home and work for a year or two saving up the dough for culinary school might not be a bad choice.

It's ok to be a NEET for a little while, but you'll eventually get your hands on delicious money for hte school system to eat up then itll go back to the government and we'll still be in debt.

There is always a way to pay for college. Just take out a loan if you want to go so badly. If you research a little bit, there are a number of banks, like Chase, that do not require you to make payments until 6 months after you graduate. So the enitre time you can just worry about school, then you get 6 months to look for a job.

You have to pay back the loan sure, but I don't see a problem with that. It isn't like anyone is or should be entitled to a free college education.

I'll stick to the military topic, as I have experience there. I suggest not joining for the sheer potential of getting money for college. Really, you should want to join anyway, and consider the college money a bonus. Myself, I intended to join for a long time, and did right after High School. So basically the literally free college (Thanks to many of the little bills and whatnot.) is a bonus for me.

If you do stick with it, pick a branch that's related to what you want to pursue. Like technological based things, go Navy or Air Force. Avionics, same. Just gotta think it through.

Anyway, good luck on finding some dough for more college.